Thread: Where did the Developer docs go?
http://developer.postgresql.org/pgdocs/postgres/index.html used to go somewhere useful and now gives 404 Where should I go to see the latest build of the docs? -- Simon Riggs http://www.2ndQuadrant.com/ PostgreSQL Development, 24x7 Support, Training & Services
On 5 December 2011 16:06, Simon Riggs <simon@2ndquadrant.com> wrote: > http://developer.postgresql.org/pgdocs/postgres/index.html > > used to go somewhere useful and now gives 404 > > Where should I go to see the latest build of the docs? It's now moved to: http://www.postgresql.org/docs/devel/static/ -- Thom
On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 17:18, Thom Brown <thom@linux.com> wrote: > On 5 December 2011 16:06, Simon Riggs <simon@2ndquadrant.com> wrote: >> http://developer.postgresql.org/pgdocs/postgres/index.html >> >> used to go somewhere useful and now gives 404 >> >> Where should I go to see the latest build of the docs? > > It's now moved to: http://www.postgresql.org/docs/devel/static/ Indeed. I have (at leas tI think I have) now updated the redirect rules to actually capture links directly into the docs as well and not just the /docs/ page itself (which is what was linked from the old website) -- Magnus Hagander Me: http://www.hagander.net/ Work: http://www.redpill-linpro.com/
On 5 December 2011 16:24, Simon Riggs <simon@2ndquadrant.com> wrote: > On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 4:18 PM, Thom Brown <thom@linux.com> wrote: >> On 5 December 2011 16:06, Simon Riggs <simon@2ndquadrant.com> wrote: >>> http://developer.postgresql.org/pgdocs/postgres/index.html >>> >>> used to go somewhere useful and now gives 404 >>> >>> Where should I go to see the latest build of the docs? >> >> It's now moved to: http://www.postgresql.org/docs/devel/static/ > > There's no redirection to new URL and the new URL is not accessible > via the docs page. > > How do you know about this and I don't? I found the reference to it on this page: http://www.postgresql.org/developer/testing/ -- Thom
On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 4:18 PM, Thom Brown <thom@linux.com> wrote: > On 5 December 2011 16:06, Simon Riggs <simon@2ndquadrant.com> wrote: >> http://developer.postgresql.org/pgdocs/postgres/index.html >> >> used to go somewhere useful and now gives 404 >> >> Where should I go to see the latest build of the docs? > > It's now moved to: http://www.postgresql.org/docs/devel/static/ There's no redirection to new URL and the new URL is not accessible via the docs page. How do you know about this and I don't? -- Simon Riggs http://www.2ndQuadrant.com/ PostgreSQL Development, 24x7 Support, Training & Services
Thom Brown <thom@linux.com> writes: > On 5 December 2011 16:06, Simon Riggs <simon@2ndquadrant.com> wrote: >> Where should I go to see the latest build of the docs? > It's now moved to: http://www.postgresql.org/docs/devel/static/ Like Simon, I was unaware of this relocation. Is there a reason we don't have a redirect from the longstanding location? regards, tom lane
On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 17:36, Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us> wrote: > Thom Brown <thom@linux.com> writes: >> On 5 December 2011 16:06, Simon Riggs <simon@2ndquadrant.com> wrote: >>> Where should I go to see the latest build of the docs? > >> It's now moved to: http://www.postgresql.org/docs/devel/static/ > > Like Simon, I was unaware of this relocation. Is there a reason we > don't have a redirect from the longstanding location? You were not unaware, because you were in on a thread where we informed about this :P That said, there was a redirect. It just didn't work properly. It now works properly. -- Magnus Hagander Me: http://www.hagander.net/ Work: http://www.redpill-linpro.com/
On Dec 5, 2011, at 11:39 AM, Magnus Hagander wrote:
On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 17:36, Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us> wrote:Thom Brown <thom@linux.com> writes:On 5 December 2011 16:06, Simon Riggs <simon@2ndquadrant.com> wrote:Where should I go to see the latest build of the docs?It's now moved to: http://www.postgresql.org/docs/devel/static/Like Simon, I was unaware of this relocation. Is there a reason wedon't have a redirect from the longstanding location?
You were not unaware, because you were in on a thread where we
informed about this :P
That said, there was a redirect. It just didn't work properly. It now
works properly.
One thing raised on IRC:
Going to http://developer.postgresql.org/pgdocs/postgres/sql-createtable.html will actually redirect just to the index, i.e. http://www.postgresql.org/docs/devel/static/
If all the URLs map 1-1 should we setup a rewrite rule?
Jonathan
On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 20:53, Jonathan S. Katz <jonathan.katz@excoventures.com> wrote: > On Dec 5, 2011, at 11:39 AM, Magnus Hagander wrote: > > On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 17:36, Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us> wrote: > > Thom Brown <thom@linux.com> writes: > > On 5 December 2011 16:06, Simon Riggs <simon@2ndquadrant.com> wrote: > > Where should I go to see the latest build of the docs? > > > It's now moved to: http://www.postgresql.org/docs/devel/static/ > > > Like Simon, I was unaware of this relocation. Is there a reason we > > don't have a redirect from the longstanding location? > > > You were not unaware, because you were in on a thread where we > informed about this :P > > That said, there was a redirect. It just didn't work properly. It now > works properly. > > > One thing raised on IRC: > > Going > to http://developer.postgresql.org/pgdocs/postgres/sql-createtable.html will > actually redirect just to the index, > i.e. http://www.postgresql.org/docs/devel/static/ > > If all the URLs map 1-1 should we setup a rewrite rule? It can be done. It was not done for two reasons: 1) then people will never update their bookmarks ;) 2) i'm not entirely sure everything is 1-1. In particular, I think there may well be files left over from old versions of postgres in the old one that people still link to. I guess they'd still just get a 404 in a different place (on the new site), so reason two holds much less weight than the first one. -- Magnus Hagander Me: http://www.hagander.net/ Work: http://www.redpill-linpro.com/
On Dec 6, 2011, at 9:53 AM, Magnus Hagander wrote: > On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 20:53, Jonathan S. Katz > <jonathan.katz@excoventures.com> wrote: >> One thing raised on IRC: >> >> Going >> to http://developer.postgresql.org/pgdocs/postgres/sql-createtable.html will >> actually redirect just to the index, >> i.e. http://www.postgresql.org/docs/devel/static/ >> >> If all the URLs map 1-1 should we setup a rewrite rule? > > It can be done. It was not done for two reasons: > 1) then people will never update their bookmarks ;) Unfortunately neither will Google or the other search engines, or blog posts linking to a feature in the development docs.(i.e. search "site:http://developer.postgresql.org/pgdocs" to see indexed pages) - from the user experience side thatwould be a bit frustrating. Granted it's not like it's the stable docs where we do need that permanence, but I do think it's wise to make it easy fornew users to find information, even if it means a few people do not update their bookmarks. > 2) i'm not entirely sure everything is 1-1. In particular, I think > there may well be files left over from old versions of postgres in the > old one that people still link to. I guess they'd still just get a 404 > in a different place (on the new site), so reason two holds much less > weight than the first one. But since it is old and not up-to-date with the developer docs, then they should update their bookmarks. Or stop linkingto an old feature ;-) Jonathan
On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 16:59, Jonathan S. Katz <jonathan.katz@excoventures.com> wrote: > > On Dec 6, 2011, at 9:53 AM, Magnus Hagander wrote: > >> On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 20:53, Jonathan S. Katz >> <jonathan.katz@excoventures.com> wrote: >>> One thing raised on IRC: >>> >>> Going >>> to http://developer.postgresql.org/pgdocs/postgres/sql-createtable.html will >>> actually redirect just to the index, >>> i.e. http://www.postgresql.org/docs/devel/static/ >>> >>> If all the URLs map 1-1 should we setup a rewrite rule? >> >> It can be done. It was not done for two reasons: >> 1) then people will never update their bookmarks ;) > > Unfortunately neither will Google or the other search engines, or blog posts linking to a feature in the development docs.(i.e. search "site:http://developer.postgresql.org/pgdocs" to see indexed pages) - from the user experience side thatwould be a bit frustrating. > > Granted it's not like it's the stable docs where we do need that permanence, but I do think it's wise to make it easy fornew users to find information, even if it means a few people do not update their bookmarks. Ok, I've added a redirect for this. Hopefully it is correct... -- Magnus Hagander Me: http://www.hagander.net/ Work: http://www.redpill-linpro.com/
On Dec 8, 2011, at 1:38 PM, Magnus Hagander wrote: > Ok, I've added a redirect for this. Hopefully it is correct... All my tests appear to be working - picking random links from the Google index redirect properly. Thanks Magnus! Jonathan