Thread: Should Webinars be training events?

Should Webinars be training events?

From
Josh Berkus
Date:
All,

We're getting quite a few submissions in /events for webinars for
various PostgreSQL-associated companies and topics.  I'm just not sure,
as a moderator, whether:

a) company webinars should be bounced as too corporate, or
b) should be regular events, or
c) should be training events.

For the kind of event I'm talking about, see this description, which is
typical:

==============
Event: Webinar: Achieving database high availability in 15 minutes with
Tungsten
Training event: No
Location: City: Web-based, State: , Country: United States
Summary:

Database downtime is one of the most common reasons for application
failures. Unfortunately, not every product billed as an HA solution
solves the whole problem. Tungsten clusters are packed with features
that address database downtime efficiently and are easy to deploy. In 15
minutes, in fact.
==============

I'm really honestly not sure what to do with these kinds of events.
Seems to me we want to list them, but where?

-- 
Josh Berkus
PostgreSQL Experts Inc.
www.pgexperts.com


Re: Should Webinars be training events?

From
"Joshua D. Drake"
Date:
On Wed, 2009-09-30 at 14:08 -0700, Josh Berkus wrote:
> All,
>
> We're getting quite a few submissions in /events for webinars for
> various PostgreSQL-associated companies and topics.  I'm just not sure,
> as a moderator, whether:
>
> a) company webinars should be bounced as too corporate, or
> b) should be regular events, or
> c) should be training events.
>
> For the kind of event I'm talking about, see this description, which is
> typical:
>
> ==============
> Event: Webinar: Achieving database high availability in 15 minutes with
> Tungsten
> Training event: No
> Location: City: Web-based, State: , Country: United States
> Summary:
>
> Database downtime is one of the most common reasons for application
> failures. Unfortunately, not every product billed as an HA solution
> solves the whole problem. Tungsten clusters are packed with features
> that address database downtime efficiently and are easy to deploy. In 15
> minutes, in fact.
> ==============
>
> I'm really honestly not sure what to do with these kinds of events.
> Seems to me we want to list them, but where?

That isn't training. I have no problem with E-Training being a training
event but ... 15 minutes is a marketing slide.

Joshua D. Drake

>
> --
> Josh Berkus
> PostgreSQL Experts Inc.
> www.pgexperts.com
>
--
PostgreSQL.org Major Contributor
Command Prompt, Inc: http://www.commandprompt.com/ - 503.667.4564
Consulting, Training, Support, Custom Development, Engineering
If the world pushes look it in the eye and GRR. Then push back harder. - Salamander

Re: Should Webinars be training events?

From
Robert Haas
Date:
On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 5:11 PM, Joshua D. Drake <jd@commandprompt.com> wrote:
> On Wed, 2009-09-30 at 14:08 -0700, Josh Berkus wrote:
>> All,
>>
>> We're getting quite a few submissions in /events for webinars for
>> various PostgreSQL-associated companies and topics.  I'm just not sure,
>> as a moderator, whether:
>>
>> a) company webinars should be bounced as too corporate, or
>> b) should be regular events, or
>> c) should be training events.
>>
>> For the kind of event I'm talking about, see this description, which is
>> typical:
>>
>> ==============
>> Event: Webinar: Achieving database high availability in 15 minutes with
>> Tungsten
>> Training event: No
>> Location: City: Web-based, State: , Country: United States
>> Summary:
>>
>> Database downtime is one of the most common reasons for application
>> failures. Unfortunately, not every product billed as an HA solution
>> solves the whole problem. Tungsten clusters are packed with features
>> that address database downtime efficiently and are easy to deploy. In 15
>> minutes, in fact.
>> ==============
>>
>> I'm really honestly not sure what to do with these kinds of events.
>> Seems to me we want to list them, but where?
>
> That isn't training. I have no problem with E-Training being a training
> event but ... 15 minutes is a marketing slide.

Yep.

...Robert


Re: Should Webinars be training events?

From
"David E. Wheeler"
Date:
On Sep 30, 2009, at 2:28 PM, Robert Haas wrote:

>>> ==============
>>> Event: Webinar: Achieving database high availability in 15 minutes  
>>> with
>>> Tungsten
>>> Training event: No
>>> Location: City: Web-based, State: , Country: United States
>>> Summary:
>>>
>>> Database downtime is one of the most common reasons for application
>>> failures. Unfortunately, not every product billed as an HA solution
>>> solves the whole problem. Tungsten clusters are packed with features
>>> that address database downtime efficiently and are easy to deploy.  
>>> In 15
>>> minutes, in fact.
>>> ==============
>>>
>>> I'm really honestly not sure what to do with these kinds of events.
>>> Seems to me we want to list them, but where?
>>
>> That isn't training. I have no problem with E-Training being a  
>> training
>> event but ... 15 minutes is a marketing slide.
>
> Yep.

is it a 15-minute Webinar, or a Webinar in which you'll learn how to  
tune for high availability in as little as 15 minutes?

David


Re: Should Webinars be training events?

From
"Joshua D. Drake"
Date:
On Wed, 2009-09-30 at 14:08 -0700, Josh Berkus wrote:
> All,
> 
> We're getting quite a few submissions in /events for webinars for
> various PostgreSQL-associated companies and topics.  I'm just not sure,
> as a moderator, whether:
> 
> a) company webinars should be bounced as too corporate, or
> b) should be regular events, or
> c) should be training events.
> 
> For the kind of event I'm talking about, see this description, which is
> typical:
> 
> ==============
> Event: Webinar: Achieving database high availability in 15 minutes with
> Tungsten
> Training event: No
> Location: City: Web-based, State: , Country: United States
> Summary:
> 
> Database downtime is one of the most common reasons for application
> failures. Unfortunately, not every product billed as an HA solution
> solves the whole problem. Tungsten clusters are packed with features
> that address database downtime efficiently and are easy to deploy. In 15
> minutes, in fact.
> ==============
> 
> I'm really honestly not sure what to do with these kinds of events.
> Seems to me we want to list them, but where?

That isn't training. I have no problem with E-Training being a training
event but ... 15 minutes is a marketing slide.

Joshua D. Drake

> 
> -- 
> Josh Berkus
> PostgreSQL Experts Inc.
> www.pgexperts.com
> 
-- 
PostgreSQL.org Major Contributor
Command Prompt, Inc: http://www.commandprompt.com/ - 503.667.4564
Consulting, Training, Support, Custom Development, Engineering
If the world pushes look it in the eye and GRR. Then push back harder. - Salamander