Thread: [FINALLY] the TODO list has migrated to Wiki

[FINALLY] the TODO list has migrated to Wiki

From
Alvaro Herrera
Date:
Hi,

Thanks to Brendan Jurd, who spent a lot of effort in creating useful
Mediawiki templates, we now have moved the TODO list to the Wiki site.

The new official location for the TODO list is here:
http://wiki.postgresql.org/wiki/Todo:Todo

I hereby kindly request the WWW team to update any references to point
to the new address; perhaps install a redirection in
http://www.postgresql.org/docs/faqs.TODO.html to the new location.

The move has been approved by Bruce, the current maintainer.  I hope
that he continues to maintain the new version.

While many details have been sorted out during the move, being a wiki
there is nothing set in stone.  Feel free to do changes like improve the
markup or the templates so that things look better (after appropriate
discussion), but if you intend to make changes like mark items
completed, add new items, or remove items, please email pgsql-hackers as
has been Bruce's tradition.

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Re: [FINALLY] the TODO list has migrated to Wiki

From
Joshua Drake
Date:
On Wed, 20 Aug 2008 13:12:15 -0400
Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@commandprompt.com> wrote:


> The move has been approved by Bruce, the current maintainer.  I hope
> that he continues to maintain the new version.

This is great! I only have one small request. The font is really small
and I have pretty good eyesight.

Joshua D. Drake


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Re: [HACKERS] [FINALLY] the TODO list has migrated to Wiki

From
Bruce Momjian
Date:
Joshua Drake wrote:
> On Wed, 20 Aug 2008 13:12:15 -0400
> Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@commandprompt.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> > The move has been approved by Bruce, the current maintainer.  I hope
> > that he continues to maintain the new version.
> 
> This is great! I only have one small request. The font is really small
> and I have pretty good eyesight.

How does it compare to the font size of the previous version of the TODO
list?

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Re: [FINALLY] the TODO list has migrated to Wiki

From
Bruce Momjian
Date:
Alvaro Herrera wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Thanks to Brendan Jurd, who spent a lot of effort in creating useful
> Mediawiki templates, we now have moved the TODO list to the Wiki site.
> 
> The new official location for the TODO list is here:
> http://wiki.postgresql.org/wiki/Todo:Todo
> 
> I hereby kindly request the WWW team to update any references to point
> to the new address; perhaps install a redirection in
> http://www.postgresql.org/docs/faqs.TODO.html to the new location.
> 
> The move has been approved by Bruce, the current maintainer.  I hope
> that he continues to maintain the new version.
> 
> While many details have been sorted out during the move, being a wiki
> there is nothing set in stone.  Feel free to do changes like improve the
> markup or the templates so that things look better (after appropriate
> discussion), but if you intend to make changes like mark items
> completed, add new items, or remove items, please email pgsql-hackers as
> has been Bruce's tradition.

The wiki has a similar appearance compared to the old TODO html file,
and allows easy editing, either per TODO section or the entire file; 
the markup is also simple.  This should allow other people to maintain
the TODO list, as they have done with the commit fest list.

I believe TODO and TODO.html files should now be removed from CVS.

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Re: [FINALLY] the TODO list has migrated to Wiki

From
Magnus Hagander
Date:
Alvaro Herrera wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Thanks to Brendan Jurd, who spent a lot of effort in creating useful
> Mediawiki templates, we now have moved the TODO list to the Wiki site.

Yay!

Thanks to Brendan for helping out with that!


> The new official location for the TODO list is here:
> http://wiki.postgresql.org/wiki/Todo:Todo
> 
> I hereby kindly request the WWW team to update any references to point
> to the new address; perhaps install a redirection in
> http://www.postgresql.org/docs/faqs.TODO.html to the new location.

Done on both accounts.


> The move has been approved by Bruce, the current maintainer.  I hope
> that he continues to maintain the new version.

And let's keep the version in CVS around for a couple of days to let
things settle before we do a "cvs remove" on it..

//Magnus


Re: [HACKERS] [FINALLY] the TODO list has migrated to Wiki

From
David Fetter
Date:
On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 10:26:11AM -0700, Joshua D. Drake wrote:
> On Wed, 20 Aug 2008 13:12:15 -0400
> Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@commandprompt.com> wrote:
> 
> > The move has been approved by Bruce, the current maintainer.  I
> > hope that he continues to maintain the new version.
> 
> This is great! I only have one small request. The font is really
> small and I have pretty good eyesight.

Fixed :)

Cheers,
David.
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Re: [HACKERS] [FINALLY] the TODO list has migrated to Wiki

From
Joshua Drake
Date:
On Wed, 20 Aug 2008 10:53:57 -0700
David Fetter <david@fetter.org> wrote:


> > This is great! I only have one small request. The font is really
> > small and I have pretty good eyesight.
> 
> Fixed :)

Much better, thanks!

Joshua D. Drake

> 
> Cheers,
> David.


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Re: [FINALLY] the TODO list has migrated to Wiki

From
Tom Lane
Date:
Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us> writes:
> I believe TODO and TODO.html files should now be removed from CVS.

+1.  Leaving them in CVS would just result in confusion.

It might make sense to leave TODO still in the file set, but reduce its
content to a pointer to the wiki page.
        regards, tom lane


Re: [FINALLY] the TODO list has migrated to Wiki

From
Tom Lane
Date:
Magnus Hagander <magnus@hagander.net> writes:
> And let's keep the version in CVS around for a couple of days to let
> things settle before we do a "cvs remove" on it..

Why?  "cvs remove" is reversible, if it comes to that.
        regards, tom lane


Re: [FINALLY] the TODO list has migrated to Wiki

From
Magnus Hagander
Date:
Tom Lane wrote:
> Magnus Hagander <magnus@hagander.net> writes:
>> And let's keep the version in CVS around for a couple of days to let
>> things settle before we do a "cvs remove" on it..
> 
> Why?  "cvs remove" is reversible, if it comes to that.

Good pt. I was mixing it up with the sucky way cvs deals with directory
removals. My bad, suggestion withdrawn.

//Magnus


Re: [FINALLY] the TODO list has migrated to Wiki

From
Bruce Momjian
Date:
Tom Lane wrote:
> Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us> writes:
> > I believe TODO and TODO.html files should now be removed from CVS.
> 
> +1.  Leaving them in CVS would just result in confusion.
> 
> It might make sense to leave TODO still in the file set, but reduce its
> content to a pointer to the wiki page.

Done.

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Re: [FINALLY] the TODO list has migrated to Wiki

From
Peter Eisentraut
Date:
Alvaro Herrera wrote:
> The new official location for the TODO list is here:
> http://wiki.postgresql.org/wiki/Todo:Todo

What is it with this strange page naming?  Have we not established some time 
ago that the colon is only supposed to be used for metapages?  We kind of 
blew this on the commit fest pages, but at least new content should do it 
right.  Plus, a URL such as http://wiki.postgresql.org/wiki/Todo would be a 
lot more obvious to find.


Re: [FINALLY] the TODO list has migrated to Wiki

From
Alvaro Herrera
Date:
Peter Eisentraut wrote:
> Alvaro Herrera wrote:
> > The new official location for the TODO list is here:
> > http://wiki.postgresql.org/wiki/Todo:Todo
> 
> What is it with this strange page naming?

I agree with your argument.  I think we inherited this name from a very
old attempt to do the conversion, and just didn't worry about it very
much, being too stressed about pleasing Bruce with the new format ;-)


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Re: [FINALLY] the TODO list has migrated to Wiki

From
Alvaro Herrera
Date:
Peter Eisentraut wrote:

> Plus, a URL such as http://wiki.postgresql.org/wiki/Todo would be a 
> lot more obvious to find.

Moved.  The old name is kept as a redirect.

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Re: [FINALLY] the TODO list has migrated to Wiki

From
Tom Lane
Date:
Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@commandprompt.com> writes:
> Peter Eisentraut wrote:
>> Plus, a URL such as http://wiki.postgresql.org/wiki/Todo would be a 
>> lot more obvious to find.

> Moved.  The old name is kept as a redirect.

Pls make doc/TODO match.
        regards, tom lane


Re: [FINALLY] the TODO list has migrated to Wiki

From
Alvaro Herrera
Date:
Tom Lane wrote:
> Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@commandprompt.com> writes:
> > Peter Eisentraut wrote:
> >> Plus, a URL such as http://wiki.postgresql.org/wiki/Todo would be a 
> >> lot more obvious to find.
> 
> > Moved.  The old name is kept as a redirect.
> 
> Pls make doc/TODO match.

Done.

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Re: [HACKERS] [FINALLY] the TODO list has migrated to Wiki

From
Bruce Momjian
Date:
Alvaro Herrera wrote:
> Tom Lane wrote:
> > Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@commandprompt.com> writes:
> > > Peter Eisentraut wrote:
> > >> Plus, a URL such as http://wiki.postgresql.org/wiki/Todo would be a 
> > >> lot more obvious to find.
> > 
> > > Moved.  The old name is kept as a redirect.
> > 
> > Pls make doc/TODO match.

The TODO link on the developer page needs to be updated too:
http://www.postgresql.org/developer/

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Re: [HACKERS] [FINALLY] the TODO list has migrated to Wiki

From
Alvaro Herrera
Date:
Bruce Momjian wrote:

> The TODO link on the developer page needs to be updated too:
> 
>     http://www.postgresql.org/developer/

Done too (and a few other links to the TODO list that are on the
website).

Minor nit: the summer of code page says that the easy items are marked
with a %, but that's no longer true.

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Re: [HACKERS] [FINALLY] the TODO list has migrated to Wiki

From
Tom Lane
Date:
Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us> writes:
> The TODO link on the developer page needs to be updated too:
>     http://www.postgresql.org/developer/

Also, is this page still sane?

http://wiki.postgresql.org/wiki/Todo:Contents

If it is, I suggest it be renamed to TodoDetail or some such.
        regards, tom lane


Re: [HACKERS] [FINALLY] the TODO list has migrated to Wiki

From
Bruce Momjian
Date:
Tom Lane wrote:
> Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us> writes:
> > The TODO link on the developer page needs to be updated too:
> >     http://www.postgresql.org/developer/
> 
> Also, is this page still sane?
> 
> http://wiki.postgresql.org/wiki/Todo:Contents
> 
> If it is, I suggest it be renamed to TodoDetail or some such.

Would someone address this please?

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Re: [HACKERS] [FINALLY] the TODO list has migrated to Wiki

From
Alvaro Herrera
Date:
Bruce Momjian wrote:
> Tom Lane wrote:

> > Also, is this page still sane?
> > 
> > http://wiki.postgresql.org/wiki/Todo:Contents
> > 
> > If it is, I suggest it be renamed to TodoDetail or some such.
> 
> Would someone address this please?

I've "addressed" it by linked to the items on the page from the main
Todo.  I think any additional detail can just be added as separate pages
and linked to from the main Todo (or just add archives references like
it's done in Todo).  At this point, Todo:Contents seems useless and
could just be removed.

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