Thread: 8.1.1 News Item,
tags
Folks, I've cleaned up several issues reported by a member of the public about the 8.1.1 release notice. In the process, though, I noticed that someone added code which adds <br> tags in place of every carriage return. This makes it hard/impossible to properly format news items (see the 8.1.1 for an example). Is there some way to turn this off when editing? --Josh -- __Aglio Database Solutions_______________ Josh Berkus Consultant josh@agliodbs.com www.agliodbs.com Ph: 415-752-2500 Fax: 415-752-2387 2166 Hayes Suite 200 San Francisco, CA
Hi Josh, On Tue, 13 Dec 2005, Josh Berkus wrote: > I've cleaned up several issues reported by a member of the public about the > 8.1.1 release notice. In the process, though, I noticed that someone > added code which adds <br> tags in place of every carriage return. This > makes it hard/impossible to properly format news items (see the 8.1.1 for > an example). Is there some way to turn this off when editing? ? I've fixed that about 2 hours ago, per a comment at irc.freenode. The tags were my fault BTW. Sorry. Regards, -- The PostgreSQL Company - Command Prompt, Inc. 1.503.667.4564 PostgreSQL Replication, Consulting, Custom Development, 24x7 support Managed Services, Shared and Dedicated Hosting Co-Authors: plPHP, plPerlNG - http://www.commandprompt.com/
Deverim, > ? I've fixed that about 2 hours ago, per a comment at irc.freenode. There was more actually. Not just the link. > The > tags were my fault BTW. Sorry. Well, I think they're a good idea sometimes. We just need the ability to turn them off if we don't want them. Ala Slashdot: "formatting: Plain Old Text|HTML" --Josh -- __Aglio Database Solutions_______________ Josh Berkus Consultant josh@agliodbs.com www.agliodbs.com Ph: 415-752-2500 Fax: 415-752-2387 2166 Hayes Suite 200 San Francisco, CA
On 13/12/05 9:03 pm, "Devrim GUNDUZ" <devrim@commandprompt.com> wrote: > > Hi Josh, > > On Tue, 13 Dec 2005, Josh Berkus wrote: > >> I've cleaned up several issues reported by a member of the public about the >> 8.1.1 release notice. In the process, though, I noticed that someone >> added code which adds <br> tags in place of every carriage return. This >> makes it hard/impossible to properly format news items (see the 8.1.1 for >> an example). Is there some way to turn this off when editing? > > ? I've fixed that about 2 hours ago, per a comment at irc.freenode. The > tags were my fault BTW. Sorry. > I fixed that this afternoon! The problem is Josh, that if we don't insert <br> tags, everyone's articles become one big paragraph. Format how you want it to look in plain text and it'll come out OK on the site. Regards, Dave
Am Dienstag, den 13.12.2005, 22:22 +0000 schrieb Dave Page:
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> The problem is Josh, that if we don't insert <br> tags, everyone's articles
> become one big paragraph. Format how you want it to look in plain text and
> it'll come out OK on the site.
p {white-space:pre}
fixes it.
HTH
Tino Wildenhain
On 13/12/05 10:33 pm, "Tino Wildenhain" <tino@wildenhain.de> wrote:
> Am Dienstag, den 13.12.2005, 22:22 +0000 schrieb Dave Page:
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>> The problem is Josh, that if we don't insert <br> tags, everyone's articles
>> become one big paragraph. Format how you want it to look in plain text and
>> it'll come out OK on the site.
>
> p {white-space:pre}
>
> fixes it.
Cool thanks - that might fix another issue as well...
Regards, Dave
On 13/12/05 10:41 pm, "Dave Page" <dpage@vale-housing.co.uk> wrote:
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> On 13/12/05 10:33 pm, "Tino Wildenhain" <tino@wildenhain.de> wrote:
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>> Am Dienstag, den 13.12.2005, 22:22 +0000 schrieb Dave Page:
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>> ..
>>> The problem is Josh, that if we don't insert <br> tags, everyone's articles
>>> become one big paragraph. Format how you want it to look in plain text and
>>> it'll come out OK on the site.
>>
>> p {white-space:pre}
>>
>> fixes it.
>
> Cool thanks - that might fix another issue as well...
Hmm, unfortunately not the answer. It does it's job too well because it
stops the text wrapping as well as honouring whitespaces (at least it does
in Safari).
It also seems it gets ignored by IE < 6.0 which probably still accounts for
a good percentage of our visitors.
:-(
Regards, Dave
Dave, > The problem is Josh, that if we don't insert <br> tags, everyone's > articles become one big paragraph. Format how you want it to look in > plain text and it'll come out OK on the site. Yes, but that doesn't work for <ul> lists or other non-paragraph formatting. Like I said, I think that adding the <br>'s automatically for public submissions is a good idea. I just think that *we* should be able to turn it off if we want to fix the formatting by hand. --Josh -- __Aglio Database Solutions_______________ Josh Berkus Consultant josh@agliodbs.com www.agliodbs.com Ph: 415-752-2500 Fax: 415-752-2387 2166 Hayes Suite 200 San Francisco, CA
Hi,
what about using the <p> instead?
g.-
On 12/14/05, Josh Berkus <josh@agliodbs.com> wrote:
Dave,
> The problem is Josh, that if we don't insert <br> tags, everyone's
> articles become one big paragraph. Format how you want it to look in
> plain text and it'll come out OK on the site.
Yes, but that doesn't work for <ul> lists or other non-paragraph
formatting. Like I said, I think that adding the <br>'s automatically for
public submissions is a good idea. I just think that *we* should be able
to turn it off if we want to fix the formatting by hand.
--Josh
--
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Ph: 415-752-2500 Fax: 415-752-2387
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Am Dienstag, den 13.12.2005, 23:25 +0000 schrieb Dave Page:
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> On 13/12/05 10:41 pm, "Dave Page" <dpage@vale-housing.co.uk> wrote:
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> > On 13/12/05 10:33 pm, "Tino Wildenhain" <tino@wildenhain.de> wrote:
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> >> Am Dienstag, den 13.12.2005, 22:22 +0000 schrieb Dave Page:
> >>>
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> >>> The problem is Josh, that if we don't insert <br> tags, everyone's articles
> >>> become one big paragraph. Format how you want it to look in plain text and
> >>> it'll come out OK on the site.
> >>
> >> p {white-space:pre}
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> >> fixes it.
> >
> > Cool thanks - that might fix another issue as well...
>
> Hmm, unfortunately not the answer. It does it's job too well because it
> stops the text wrapping as well as honouring whitespaces (at least it does
> in Safari).
Well, you either have text wrapping or you have something like <br />
gives - sort of. Otoh, if wrapping of paragraphs is desired, each
paragraph should just have its own <p> </p> around it.
The text only variant of this would be a list of paragraph texts.
> It also seems it gets ignored by IE < 6.0 which probably still accounts for
> a good percentage of our visitors.
While the question arisis if these are really IE < 6.0 users or
just users with default spoofing other browsers.
If they are true IE 5.x users, they dont have much fun in the web
anyway and should not care about some design oddities ;)
> -----Original Message----- > From: Tino Wildenhain [mailto:tino@wildenhain.de] > Sent: 14 December 2005 06:46 > To: Dave Page > Cc: Devrim GUNDUZ; Josh Berkus; pgsql-www@postgresql.org > Subject: Re: [pgsql-www] 8.1.1 News Item, <br> tags > > Well, you either have text wrapping or you have something like <br /> > gives - sort of. Otoh, if wrapping of paragraphs is desired, each > paragraph should just have its own <p> </p> around it. > The text only variant of this would be a list of paragraph texts. Trying to parse the text and put <p>'s around it will lead to exactly the problem Josh is compalining about with the <br>'s unfortunately. > > It also seems it gets ignored by IE < 6.0 which probably > still accounts for > > a good percentage of our visitors. > > While the question arisis if these are really IE < 6.0 users or > just users with default spoofing other browsers. > > If they are true IE 5.x users, they dont have much fun in the web > anyway and should not care about some design oddities ;) The differences between IE5 and IE6 are minimal compared to IE4. The vast majority of sites are likely to work perfectly well in 5. It's also worth remembering that for a long time Microsoft didn't release IE6 as a standalone upgrade for Win2K, and didn't exactly shout about it when they did, so there might still be quite a few Win2K users still unaware that they can run something newer. Regards, Dave
> -----Original Message----- > From: Josh Berkus [mailto:josh@agliodbs.com] > Sent: 14 December 2005 00:14 > To: pgsql-www@postgresql.org > Cc: Dave Page; Devrim GUNDUZ > Subject: Re: [pgsql-www] 8.1.1 News Item, <br> tags > > Dave, > > > The problem is Josh, that if we don't insert <br> tags, everyone's > > articles become one big paragraph. Format how you want it to look in > > plain text and it'll come out OK on the site. > > Yes, but that doesn't work for <ul> lists or other non-paragraph > formatting. Like I said, I think that adding the <br>'s > automatically for > public submissions is a good idea. I just think that *we* > should be able > to turn it off if we want to fix the formatting by hand. Unfortunately it's not as simple as just turning it off - we'd need to modify the code right the way from input form, through the admin pages to the page generation because we store the raw input in the database. We'd need to add a flag to tell the system how to render the content. That's not to say it can't be done, just that it's a non-trivial job. FWIW though, UL/LI formatting does work OK as it is - see http://wwwmaster.postgresql.org/about/news.419 for example. Regards, Dave