Thread: announcing beta on pg homepage

announcing beta on pg homepage

From
Robert Treat
Date:
I am thinking perhaps we could update the 8.0 now available box to announce
the 8.1 beta release.  Does anyone feel strongly against that idea? Does
anyone have any artwork they would like to suggest to be put into the box?

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Re: announcing beta on pg homepage

From
Bruce Momjian
Date:
Robert Treat wrote:
> I am thinking perhaps we could update the 8.0 now available box to announce
> the 8.1 beta release.  Does anyone feel strongly against that idea? Does
> anyone have any artwork they would like to suggest to be put into the box?

Good idea, but do people who are using the beta know to report things on
hackers?

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Re: announcing beta on pg homepage

From
Robert Treat
Date:
On Wed, 2005-08-24 at 10:09, Bruce Momjian wrote:
> Robert Treat wrote:
> > I am thinking perhaps we could update the 8.0 now available box to announce
> > the 8.1 beta release.  Does anyone feel strongly against that idea? Does
> > anyone have any artwork they would like to suggest to be put into the box?
>
> Good idea, but do people who are using the beta know to report things on
> hackers?
>

Presumably the "whats new in 8.0" link will be replaced with a link to
"Participate in the Beta Program" which would probably point to
http://www.postgresql.org/developer/beta.  On that page we can put up in
big flashing letters "Please report all bugs/problems to the
pgsql-hackers@postgresql mailing list"


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Re: announcing beta on pg homepage

From
Bruce Momjian
Date:
Josh Berkus wrote:
> Robert, Bruce,
>
> > Presumably the "whats new in 8.0" link will be replaced with a link to
> > "Participate in the Beta Program" which would probably point to
> > http://www.postgresql.org/developer/beta.  On that page we can put up in
> > big flashing letters "Please report all bugs/problems to the
> > pgsql-hackers@postgresql mailing list"
>
> Um, shouldn't they report to pgsql-bugs@postgresql.org, or use the webform?
> We don't exactly want a bunch of "I can't connect to the database" appearing
> on -hackers.

Yes, they can use bugs, but they should also be subscribed to hackers so
they can get information about changes.

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Re: announcing beta on pg homepage

From
Josh Berkus
Date:
Robert, Bruce,

> Presumably the "whats new in 8.0" link will be replaced with a link to
> "Participate in the Beta Program" which would probably point to
> http://www.postgresql.org/developer/beta.  On that page we can put up in
> big flashing letters "Please report all bugs/problems to the
> pgsql-hackers@postgresql mailing list"

Um, shouldn't they report to pgsql-bugs@postgresql.org, or use the webform?
We don't exactly want a bunch of "I can't connect to the database" appearing
on -hackers.

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Aglio Database Solutions
San Francisco

Re: announcing beta on pg homepage

From
Robert Treat
Date:
On Wednesday 24 August 2005 12:15, Bruce Momjian wrote:
> Josh Berkus wrote:
> > Robert, Bruce,
> >
> > > Presumably the "whats new in 8.0" link will be replaced with a link to
> > > "Participate in the Beta Program" which would probably point to
> > > http://www.postgresql.org/developer/beta.  On that page we can put up
> > > in big flashing letters "Please report all bugs/problems to the
> > > pgsql-hackers@postgresql mailing list"
> >
> > Um, shouldn't they report to pgsql-bugs@postgresql.org, or use the
> > webform? We don't exactly want a bunch of "I can't connect to the
> > database" appearing on -hackers.
>
> Yes, they can use bugs, but they should also be subscribed to hackers so
> they can get information about changes.

Ok, I've done a quick mock up at http://xzilla.postgresql.org/, which links to
a revised http://xzilla.postgresql.org/developer/beta.

If people are ok with the general scheme, I'll go about updating the links as
needed and encorporating any word changes by those who know better what kind
of action we should be suggesting

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Re: announcing beta on pg homepage

From
"Marc G. Fournier"
Date:
On Wed, 24 Aug 2005, Robert Treat wrote:

> On Wednesday 24 August 2005 12:15, Bruce Momjian wrote:
>> Josh Berkus wrote:
>>> Robert, Bruce,
>>>
>>>> Presumably the "whats new in 8.0" link will be replaced with a link to
>>>> "Participate in the Beta Program" which would probably point to
>>>> http://www.postgresql.org/developer/beta.  On that page we can put up
>>>> in big flashing letters "Please report all bugs/problems to the
>>>> pgsql-hackers@postgresql mailing list"
>>>
>>> Um, shouldn't they report to pgsql-bugs@postgresql.org, or use the
>>> webform? We don't exactly want a bunch of "I can't connect to the
>>> database" appearing on -hackers.
>>
>> Yes, they can use bugs, but they should also be subscribed to hackers so
>> they can get information about changes.
>
> Ok, I've done a quick mock up at http://xzilla.postgresql.org/, which links to
> a revised http://xzilla.postgresql.org/developer/beta.
>
> If people are ok with the general scheme, I'll go about updating the links as
> needed and encorporating any word changes by those who know better what kind
> of action we should be suggesting

Another then that -hackers should be removed, the rest looks good ...

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Re: announcing beta on pg homepage

From
"Marc G. Fournier"
Date:
On Wed, 24 Aug 2005, Bruce Momjian wrote:

> Josh Berkus wrote:
>> Robert, Bruce,
>>
>>> Presumably the "whats new in 8.0" link will be replaced with a link to
>>> "Participate in the Beta Program" which would probably point to
>>> http://www.postgresql.org/developer/beta.  On that page we can put up in
>>> big flashing letters "Please report all bugs/problems to the
>>> pgsql-hackers@postgresql mailing list"
>>
>> Um, shouldn't they report to pgsql-bugs@postgresql.org, or use the webform?
>> We don't exactly want a bunch of "I can't connect to the database" appearing
>> on -hackers.
>
> Yes, they can use bugs, but they should also be subscribed to hackers so
> they can get information about changes.

I don't agree with this, mainly because it will limit the # willing to do
beta testing if it requires getting inundated with yet another list ... we
should be encouraging ppl to download and report bugs, not trying to limit
them :(

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Re: announcing beta on pg homepage

From
"Dave Page"
Date:

> -----Original Message-----
> From: pgsql-www-owner@postgresql.org
> [mailto:pgsql-www-owner@postgresql.org] On Behalf Of Robert Treat
> Sent: 24 August 2005 21:44
> To: Bruce Momjian
> Cc: Josh Berkus; pgsql-www@postgresql.org
> Subject: Re: [pgsql-www] announcing beta on pg homepage
>
> Ok, I've done a quick mock up at
> http://xzilla.postgresql.org/, which links to
> a revised http://xzilla.postgresql.org/developer/beta.

"Take a back up of your current database system with both old a new
versions of pg_dump"

Should probably be:

"Take a back up of your current database system with both old and new
versions of pg_dump"

Regards, Dave.

Re: announcing beta on pg homepage

From
Emily Boyd
Date:
Robert,

> Ok, I've done a quick mock up at http://xzilla.postgresql.org/, which links to
> a revised http://xzilla.postgresql.org/developer/beta.

Can you please replace the feature image on the homepage with this one
I've designed?

http://www.emilyboyd.com/design/postgresql/feature_gears.png

It should end up looking something like this:

http://www.emilyboyd.com/design/postgresql/screenshot_homepage_beta.png

Thanks!

Emily

Re: announcing beta on pg homepage

From
Gavin Sherry
Date:
On Thu, 25 Aug 2005, Emily Boyd wrote:

> Robert,
>
> > Ok, I've done a quick mock up at http://xzilla.postgresql.org/, which links to
> > a revised http://xzilla.postgresql.org/developer/beta.
>
> Can you please replace the feature image on the homepage with this one
> I've designed?
>
> http://www.emilyboyd.com/design/postgresql/feature_gears.png
>
> It should end up looking something like this:
>
> http://www.emilyboyd.com/design/postgresql/screenshot_homepage_beta.png

That imagine looks a lot better. It occured to me that a rusty cog might
not be the best image to associate with postgres.

Thanks,

Gavin

Re: announcing beta on pg homepage

From
"Gavin M. Roy"
Date:
Can we get the font you used in the header, or the original PSD?
There are several community related sites like the PostgreSQL
Foundation site who use the same design concept but without matching
fonts.

Regards,

Gavin

On Aug 24, 2005, at 10:47 PM, Emily Boyd wrote:

> Robert,
>
>
>> Ok, I've done a quick mock up at http://xzilla.postgresql.org/,
>> which links to a revised http://xzilla.postgresql.org/developer/beta.
>>
>
> Can you please replace the feature image on the homepage with this one
> I've designed?
>
> http://www.emilyboyd.com/design/postgresql/feature_gears.png
>
> It should end up looking something like this:
>
> http://www.emilyboyd.com/design/postgresql/
> screenshot_homepage_beta.png
>
> Thanks!
>
> Emily
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Re: announcing beta on pg homepage

From
Emily Boyd
Date:
Gavin,

> Can we get the font you used in the header, or the original PSD?   There
> are several community related sites like the PostgreSQL  Foundation site
> who use the same design concept but without matching  fonts.

I didn't actually use a font for the logo, as I just grabbed the
Illustrator file from here:

http://www.pgsql.com/graphics/Empowered_logos/

If you need to change the logo text, I *think* the font used is Strait.
I've uploaded a copy here:

http://www.emilyboyd.com/design/postgresql/strait.ttf

The font used for the text on the right is Frutiger Roman. (You'll need
to source your own copy of this, as it's not a free font.)

In case it helps, there's a layered PNG of the entire header here:

http://www.emilyboyd.com/design/postgresql/header.png

Regards,
Emily

Re: announcing beta on pg homepage

From
"Magnus Hagander"
Date:
> > Ok, I've done a quick mock up at
> > http://xzilla.postgresql.org/, which links to a revised
> > http://xzilla.postgresql.org/developer/beta.
>
> "Take a back up of your current database system with both old
> a new versions of pg_dump"
>
> Should probably be:
>
> "Take a back up of your current database system with both old
> and new versions of pg_dump"

Sticking my neck out as I'm not a native english speaker, but itsn't
"backup" a single word when it's a noun? "You should back up your data"
seems right, but "take a backup of your data" at least soudns better to
me :)

//Magnus

Re: announcing beta on pg homepage

From
Tom Lane
Date:
Gavin Sherry <swm@alcove.com.au> writes:
> That imagine looks a lot better. It occured to me that a rusty cog might
> not be the best image to associate with postgres.

Emily's gears look good to me too.  One other trivial gripe: "next
version of it's software" should be "next version of its software".
(My recollection from grade school is that "it's" is an abbreviation
for "it is", which does not fit here.)  Or maybe you could make it
a little less impersonal by talking about "our software".

            regards, tom lane

Re: announcing beta on pg homepage

From
"Greg Sabino Mullane"
Date:
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> That imagine looks a lot better. It occured to me that a rusty cog might
> not be the best image to associate with postgres.

I was trying to convince Robert of that very thing yesterday! I'd like to
see something like this, personally:

http://www.gtsm.com/newslonik.png

:)

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Re: announcing beta on pg homepage

From
Robert Treat
Date:
On Thursday 25 August 2005 02:20, Tom Lane wrote:
> One other trivial gripe: "next
> version of it's software" should be "next version of its software".
> (My recollection from grade school is that "it's" is an abbreviation
> for "it is", which does not fit here.)  Or maybe you could make it
> a little less impersonal by talking about "our software".
>
'Tis not as cut and dried as most people think:
http://www.word-detective.com/back-d.html#its

;-)

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Re: announcing beta on pg homepage

From
Robert Treat
Date:
On Thursday 25 August 2005 01:50, Gavin Sherry wrote:
> On Thu, 25 Aug 2005, Emily Boyd wrote:
> > Robert,
> >
> > > Ok, I've done a quick mock up at http://xzilla.postgresql.org/, which
> > > links to a revised http://xzilla.postgresql.org/developer/beta.
> >
> > Can you please replace the feature image on the homepage with this one
> > I've designed?
> >
> > http://www.emilyboyd.com/design/postgresql/feature_gears.png
> >
> > It should end up looking something like this:
> >
> > http://www.emilyboyd.com/design/postgresql/screenshot_homepage_beta.png
>
> That imagine looks a lot better. It occured to me that a rusty cog might
> not be the best image to associate with postgres.
>

It's a beta release, it's not suppose to be polished yet  :-P

:-)

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Re: announcing beta on pg homepage

From
"Marc G. Fournier"
Date:
Ack! :)


On Thu, 25 Aug 2005, Greg Sabino Mullane wrote:

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>> That imagine looks a lot better. It occured to me that a rusty cog might
>> not be the best image to associate with postgres.
>
> I was trying to convince Robert of that very thing yesterday! I'd like to
> see something like this, personally:
>
> http://www.gtsm.com/newslonik.png
>
> :)
>
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Re: announcing beta on pg homepage

From
Robert Treat
Date:
On Thursday 25 August 2005 03:40, Magnus Hagander wrote:
> > > Ok, I've done a quick mock up at
> > > http://xzilla.postgresql.org/, which links to a revised
> > > http://xzilla.postgresql.org/developer/beta.
> >
> > "Take a back up of your current database system with both old
> > a new versions of pg_dump"
> >
> > Should probably be:
> >
> > "Take a back up of your current database system with both old
> > and new versions of pg_dump"
>
> Sticking my neck out as I'm not a native english speaker, but itsn't
> "backup" a single word when it's a noun? "You should back up your data"
> seems right, but "take a backup of your data" at least soudns better to
> me :)
>

If anyone wants to give this the ole once over, i plan to commit later this
morning (want to run it through a validator first)

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Re: announcing beta on pg homepage

From
"Marc G. Fournier"
Date:
Looks great to me ...

On Fri, 26 Aug 2005, Robert Treat wrote:

> On Thursday 25 August 2005 03:40, Magnus Hagander wrote:
>>>> Ok, I've done a quick mock up at
>>>> http://xzilla.postgresql.org/, which links to a revised
>>>> http://xzilla.postgresql.org/developer/beta.
>>>
>>> "Take a back up of your current database system with both old
>>> a new versions of pg_dump"
>>>
>>> Should probably be:
>>>
>>> "Take a back up of your current database system with both old
>>> and new versions of pg_dump"
>>
>> Sticking my neck out as I'm not a native english speaker, but itsn't
>> "backup" a single word when it's a noun? "You should back up your data"
>> seems right, but "take a backup of your data" at least soudns better to
>> me :)
>>
>
> If anyone wants to give this the ole once over, i plan to commit later this
> morning (want to run it through a validator first)
>
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