Thread: Re: License For Contribution [Was: Re: Ready to launch?]
> -----Original Message-----
> From: pgsql-www-owner@postgresql.org
> [mailto:pgsql-www-owner@postgresql.org] On Behalf Of Omar Kilani
> Sent: 20 December 2004 18:34
> To: pgsql-www@postgresql.org
> Subject: License For Contribution [Was: Re: [pgsql-www] Ready
> to launch?]
>
> I'd like to point out that code does not equate to *design*, and that
> the previous conversation was about *site code*, i.e., pgweb, and not
> the design (and even then, nothing was decided upon.)
>
> Not that there's anything in the BSD license that says you
> can't use an
> image on a website, but alas.
>
> This is a proposed license. The PostgreSQL Global Development
> Group must
> accept the following terms for the BSD license and copyright
> addition to
> take affect (the CSS has already been BSD licensed, separately.)
>
> ---
>
> The images (except the elephant in the announcement box on the front
> page), the unique combination of images, colors, sizes,
> typography, and
> positioning ("the design") are:
>
> Copyright (c) 2004 Emily Boyd
> Copyright (c) 2004 Omar Kilani
>
> ("the original copyright holders") and is additionally:
>
> Copyright (c) 2004 PostgreSQL Global Development Group
>
> And is released under the BSD license.
>
> ---
>
> The elephant in the announcement box on the front page is a licensed
> derivative work of a royalty free image, and Emily Boyd grants the
> PostgreSQL Global Development Group the right to use said
> image on the
> postgresql.org website.
>
> ---
>
> Use by PostgreSQL International sites is possible, but a right to use
> must be granted by Emily Boyd for each licensee, as per the
> terms of the
> original license on the image.
All the work you have committed has been to a CVS clearly marked as BSD
Licence on the project website. That is the licence under which you have
donated the code and design that it produces. Or have I misunderstood
what you are saying?
Regards, Dave.
>> >>The elephant in the announcement box on the front page is a licensed >>derivative work of a royalty free image, and Emily Boyd grants the >>PostgreSQL Global Development Group the right to use said >>image on the >>postgresql.org website. >> >>--- >> >>Use by PostgreSQL International sites is possible, but a right to use >>must be granted by Emily Boyd for each licensee, as per the >>terms of the >>original license on the image. >> >> > >All the work you have committed has been to a CVS clearly marked as BSD >Licence on the project website. That is the licence under which you have >donated the code and design that it produces. Or have I misunderstood >what you are saying? > > What I am seeing in this discussion is that want to keep exclusive rights to the original image but that all the code is BSD licensed. My basic take on this is simple: It is going to be too much of a pain in the butt. If that is the route they are going to be take then I will have my artist create a new elephant from scratch that we will be BSD licensed and copyright to the project. We don't want to have to deal with this later. Sincerely, Joshua D. Drake >Regards, Dave. > >---------------------------(end of broadcast)--------------------------- >TIP 2: you can get off all lists at once with the unregister command > (send "unregister YourEmailAddressHere" to majordomo@postgresql.org) > > -- Command Prompt, Inc., home of Mammoth PostgreSQL - S/ODBC and S/JDBC Postgresql support, programming shared hosting and dedicated hosting. +1-503-667-4564 - jd@commandprompt.com - http://www.commandprompt.com PostgreSQL Replicator -- production quality replication for PostgreSQL
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Joshua, > What I am seeing in this discussion is that want to keep exclusive > rights to the original image but that all the code is BSD licensed. Not quite. It's a stock royalty-free image (not *our* image), that we've purchased the license to use, for the express purpose of using it in PostgreSQL related websites. > My basic take on this is simple: > > It is going to be too much of a pain in the butt. If that is the > route they are going to be take then I will have my artist create a new > elephant from scratch that we will be BSD licensed and copyright to the > project. > > We don't want to have to deal with this later. There's nothing to deal with. It's one image. We've paid for it so that it can be used by PostgreSQL. There's nothing else to it. It's that simple. > Sincerely, > > Joshua D. Drake Omar
> -----Original Message----- > From: pgsql-www-owner@postgresql.org > [mailto:pgsql-www-owner@postgresql.org] On Behalf Of Joshua D. Drake > Sent: 20 December 2004 20:37 > To: Dave Page > Cc: Omar Kilani; pgsql-www@postgresql.org > Subject: Re: License For Contribution [Was: Re: [pgsql-www] > Ready to launch?] > > > What I am seeing in this discussion is that want to keep exclusive > rights to the original image but that all the code is BSD licensed. Yes, that is basically the issue. > > It is going to be too much of a pain in the butt. If that is the > route they are going to be take then I will have my artist > create a new > elephant from scratch that we will be BSD licensed and > copyright to the > project. > > We don't want to have to deal with this later. Yes, this is my concern. Either keeping the elephant outside CVS, or rewriting the licence with a specific exception for it will be a pain imho. If you can source an alternative, that would certainly help :-) Regards, Dave.
> -----Original Message----- > From: pgsql-www-owner@postgresql.org > [mailto:pgsql-www-owner@postgresql.org] On Behalf Of Omar Kilani > Sent: 20 December 2004 20:50 > To: PostgreSQL WWW Mailing List > Subject: Re: License For Contribution [Was: Re: [pgsql-www] > Ready to launch?] > > There's nothing to deal with. It's one image. We've paid for > it so that > it can be used by PostgreSQL. There's nothing else to it. > It's that simple. Oh, so anyone can take a copy from our CVS and use it for any purpose they like, provided they stick to the BSD licence used for all the files in that cvsroot? That's OK then - sorry, I thought you meant it was a image that only we could use. Regards, Dave.
On Mon, 20 Dec 2004, Joshua D. Drake wrote:
>
>>>
>>> The elephant in the announcement box on the front page is a licensed
>>> derivative work of a royalty free image, and Emily Boyd grants the
>>> PostgreSQL Global Development Group the right to use said image on the
>>> postgresql.org website.
>>>
>>> ---
>>>
>>> Use by PostgreSQL International sites is possible, but a right to use must
>>> be granted by Emily Boyd for each licensee, as per the terms of the
>>> original license on the image.
>>>
>>
>> All the work you have committed has been to a CVS clearly marked as BSD
>> Licence on the project website. That is the licence under which you have
>> donated the code and design that it produces. Or have I misunderstood
>> what you are saying?
>>
> What I am seeing in this discussion is that want to keep exclusive
> rights to the original image but that all the code is BSD licensed.
>
> My basic take on this is simple:
>
> It is going to be too much of a pain in the butt. If that is the
> route they are going to be take then I will have my artist create a new
> elephant from scratch that we will be BSD licensed and copyright to the
> project.
>
Nice !
> We don't want to have to deal with this later.
>
That's also my opinion.
> Sincerely,
>
> Joshua D. Drake
>
>
>
>> Regards, Dave.
>>
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Oleg
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