Thread: Mirror how-to?
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Hi,
My company, TDM wants to hold a web site mirror of PostgreSQL web site in
Turkey. We currently do not have a PostgreSQL.org web mirror in Turkey
(have an ftp mirror, though).
What should we do? Our ip : 195.142.106.18 and hostname is tdm.com.tr .
Regards,
- --
Devrim GUNDUZ
devrim@gunduz.org devrim.gunduz@linux.org.tr
http://www.TDMSoft.com
http://www.gunduz.org
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Hi Devrim, Will the same IP address be used for the rsync? Once I know, I'll assign a hostname and give you rsync access. You will need to be able to setup a virtualhost. Regards, Dave > -----Original Message----- > From: Devrim GUNDUZ [mailto:devrim@gunduz.org] > Sent: 17 February 2004 12:29 > To: PostgreSQL WWW Mailing List > Cc: postgresql@tdmsoft.com > Subject: [pgsql-www] Mirror how-to? > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > > Hi, > > My company, TDM wants to hold a web site mirror of PostgreSQL > web site in Turkey. We currently do not have a PostgreSQL.org > web mirror in Turkey (have an ftp mirror, though). > > What should we do? Our ip : 195.142.106.18 and hostname is > tdm.com.tr . > > Regards, > - -- > Devrim GUNDUZ > devrim@gunduz.org > devrim.gunduz@linux.org.tr > http://www.TDMSoft.com > http://www.gunduz.org > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) > > iD8DBQFAMgkHtl86P3SPfQ4RAgQ5AKDwOuUO3/1qSlHlYNerG2aspR9WBgCfajjE > jTLpWDckq8Xr0+R9JznmRD4= > =vM1a > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > > ---------------------------(end of > broadcast)--------------------------- > TIP 5: Have you checked our extensive FAQ? > > http://www.postgresql.org/docs/faqs/FAQ.html >
I want to know this too. --elein@varlena.com On Tue, Feb 17, 2004 at 02:28:52PM +0200, Devrim GUNDUZ wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > > Hi, > > My company, TDM wants to hold a web site mirror of PostgreSQL web site in > Turkey. We currently do not have a PostgreSQL.org web mirror in Turkey > (have an ftp mirror, though). > > What should we do? Our ip : 195.142.106.18 and hostname is tdm.com.tr . > > Regards, > - -- > Devrim GUNDUZ > devrim@gunduz.org devrim.gunduz@linux.org.tr > http://www.TDMSoft.com > http://www.gunduz.org > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) > > iD8DBQFAMgkHtl86P3SPfQ4RAgQ5AKDwOuUO3/1qSlHlYNerG2aspR9WBgCfajjE > jTLpWDckq8Xr0+R9JznmRD4= > =vM1a > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > > ---------------------------(end of broadcast)--------------------------- > TIP 5: Have you checked our extensive FAQ? > > http://www.postgresql.org/docs/faqs/FAQ.html
> -----Original Message----- > From: elein [mailto:elein@varlena.com] > Sent: 17 February 2004 19:14 > To: Devrim GUNDUZ > Cc: PostgreSQL WWW Mailing List; postgresql@tdmsoft.com > Subject: Re: [pgsql-www] Mirror how-to? > > I want to know this too. Hi Elein, In order to get started, i need to get the following info from you please: - Geographic Location of server (just the country) - IP address of mirror server - Port number if non-standard - Hostnames/ip addresses of 1 or 2 machines that you will use to rsync the site (rsync is the only update method we support). For most sites this will be the same as the server - Path to content (for ftp servers - eg: /pub/postgresql) You will need to be able to setup a virtualhost on your server for a web mirror. Once I have these details I can add them to our mirror system which will allow you to access the rsync server and have your mirror(s) listed on the main site. I will also then assign you a mirror hostname to use in your virtualserver configuration. Regards, Dave.
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Hi,
On Tue, 17 Feb 2004, Dave Page wrote:
> In order to get started, i need to get the following info from you
> please:
<snip>
Is there any info about this on our web page? I could not find it. Maybe
we should write these on mirrors-{ftp/www}.html pages.
Regards,
- --
Devrim GUNDUZ
devrim@gunduz.org devrim.gunduz@linux.org.tr
http://www.TDMSoft.com
http://www.gunduz.org
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Hi! Devrim GUNDUZ wrote: > BTW, could you please check the mirror list for Turkish domains? I saw a > mirror in: > > http://oc.cs.msu.su/pgorg/mirrors > > which links to www4.tr.postgresql.org, which is a non-existent domain. Er, please have in mind that this page is not official in any way. I just needed to display some mirrors and did an update on DB that effectively showed all of them, including the ones that are not working anymore.
> -----Original Message----- > From: Devrim GUNDUZ [mailto:devrim@gunduz.org] > Sent: 18 February 2004 07:22 > To: Dave Page > Cc: PostgreSQL WWW Mailing List; postgresql@tdmsoft.com > Subject: RE: [pgsql-www] Mirror how-to? > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > > Hi Dave, > > On Tue, 17 Feb 2004, Dave Page wrote: > > > Will the same IP address be used for the rsync? > > Yes. > > > Once I know, I'll assign a hostname and give you rsync access. You > > will need to be able to setup a virtualhost. > > Ok, I'll set up www.tr.postgresql.org (is it ok?). Also, > postgresql.web.tr will be redirected to this mirror. It's www5.tr.postgresql.org. The mirror numbers are assigned to each organisation whether they are ftp or www. As there are already a number of ftp and www mirrors listed that means that 5 is next :-( I've set this up now and the system should create DNS records and grant rsync access within 24 hours. Please setup a cron job to sync content at least every 24 hours using a command like: /usr/local/bin/rsync -avz --delete rsync.postgresql.org::pgsql-www /path/to/wwwcontent > BTW, could you please check the mirror list for Turkish > domains? I saw a mirror in: > > http://oc.cs.msu.su/pgorg/mirrors > > which links to www4.tr.postgresql.org, which is a non-existent domain. Yeah, that's just because Alexey has snapshot data. There is a www4 it just isn't active at the moment so it's DNS record has been removed. Regards Dave.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Devrim GUNDUZ [mailto:devrim@gunduz.org]
> Sent: 18 February 2004 07:26
> To: Dave Page
> Cc: PostgreSQL WWW Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [pgsql-www] Mirror how-to?
>
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> Hi,
>
> On Tue, 17 Feb 2004, Dave Page wrote:
>
> > In order to get started, i need to get the following info from you
> > please:
>
> <snip>
>
> Is there any info about this on our web page? I could not
> find it. Maybe we should write these on mirrors-{ftp/www}.html pages.
Yeah, been meaning to for a while. Fancy writing something?
Regards, Dave.
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Hi Dave,
On Wed, 18 Feb 2004, Dave Page wrote:
> > Ok, I'll set up www.tr.postgresql.org (is it ok?). Also,
> > postgresql.web.tr will be redirected to this mirror.
>
> It's www5.tr.postgresql.org. The mirror numbers are assigned to each
> organisation whether they are ftp or www. As there are already a number
> of ftp and www mirrors listed that means that 5 is next :-(
I could not understand this. We just have a ftp mirror for Turkey. There
are no www mirrors for TR. So why not www?
Am I wrong?
> Please setup a cron job to sync content at least every 24 hours using a
> command like:
My part is done. Thanks.
Regards,
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Devrim GUNDUZ
devrim@gunduz.org devrim.gunduz@linux.org.tr
http://www.TDMSoft.com
http://www.gunduz.org
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Devrim GUNDUZ [mailto:devrim@gunduz.org]
> Sent: 18 February 2004 09:17
> To: Dave Page
> Cc: PostgreSQL WWW Mailing List; postgresql@tdmsoft.com
> Subject: RE: [pgsql-www] Mirror how-to?
>
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> Hi Dave,
>
> On Wed, 18 Feb 2004, Dave Page wrote:
>
> > > Ok, I'll set up www.tr.postgresql.org (is it ok?). Also,
> > > postgresql.web.tr will be redirected to this mirror.
> >
> > It's www5.tr.postgresql.org. The mirror numbers are
> assigned to each
> > organisation whether they are ftp or www. As there are already a
> > number of ftp and www mirrors listed that means that 5 is next :-(
>
> I could not understand this. We just have a ftp mirror for
> Turkey. There are no www mirrors for TR. So why not www?
>
> Am I wrong?
Yes, 'fraid so.
These are the current mirrors for Turkey:
FTP Mirror Web Mirror Provider
==============================================
ftp.tr Gazi University
ftp2.tr politics.ankara.edu.tr
ftp3.tr ulakbim.gov.tr
www4.tr IDEA INTERNET
www5.tr TDMSoft
www.tr doesn't currently exist, but is reserved for Gazi University.
Likewise, ftp4.tr is reserved for Idea Internet.
Regards Dave.
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi Dave, On Wed, 18 Feb 2004, Dave Page wrote: <snip> > www.tr doesn't currently exist, but is reserved for Gazi University. > Likewise, ftp4.tr is reserved for Idea Internet. Ok, got it. Anyway, the first try for rsync is ok now. http://www.postgresql.web.tr/ looks perfect. I'll wait for the DNS to announce the mirror to local lists. Regards, - -- Devrim GUNDUZ devrim@gunduz.org devrim.gunduz@linux.org.tr http://www.TDMSoft.com http://www.gunduz.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFAMz5Ttl86P3SPfQ4RAiyHAJ9s87EQNnsLfSqOqY9kW/pWbFeUfACfcLLM LQG25SDg0ogbfukBtjPHp0U= =2rJs -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
> -----Original Message----- > From: Devrim GUNDUZ [mailto:devrim@gunduz.org] > Sent: 18 February 2004 10:29 > To: Dave Page > Cc: PostgreSQL WWW Mailing List; postgresql@tdmsoft.com > Subject: RE: [pgsql-www] Mirror how-to? > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > > Hi Dave, > > On Wed, 18 Feb 2004, Dave Page wrote: > > <snip> > > www.tr doesn't currently exist, but is reserved for Gazi University. > > Likewise, ftp4.tr is reserved for Idea Internet. > > Ok, got it. > > Anyway, the first try for rsync is ok now. > > http://www.postgresql.web.tr/ looks perfect. I'll wait for > the DNS to announce the mirror to local lists. Excellent - thanks! /D
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Hi,
On Wed, 18 Feb 2004, Dave Page wrote:
> > Is there any info about this on our web page? I could not
> > find it. Maybe we should write these on mirrors-{ftp/www}.html pages.
>
> Yeah, been meaning to for a while. Fancy writing something?
Me? With my perfect English? ;)
Maybe I can rephrase your words:
mirror-howto.php
========================================================================
In order to mirror PostgreSQL.org web site, we need to get the following
info from you:
- - Geographic Location of server (just the country)
- - IP address of mirror server
- - Port number if non-standard
- - Hostnames/ip addresses of 1 or 2 machines that you will use to rsync
the site (rsync is the only update method we support). For most sites
this will be the same as the server
- - Path to content (for ftp servers - eg: /pub/postgresql)
Please send these information to webmaster@PostgreSQL.org. Our webmasters
will contact you after their part is done.
========================================================================
Does it look good?
Regards,
- --
Devrim GUNDUZ
devrim@gunduz.org devrim.gunduz@linux.org.tr
http://www.TDMSoft.com
http://www.gunduz.org
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> -----Original Message----- > From: Devrim GUNDUZ [mailto:devrim@gunduz.org] > Sent: 18 February 2004 10:44 > To: Dave Page > Cc: PostgreSQL WWW Mailing List > Subject: RE: [pgsql-www] Mirror how-to? > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > > Me? With my perfect English? ;) It's not that bad! > Maybe I can rephrase your words: > mirror-howto.php ======================================================================== <h3>Mirroring the FTP or web site</h3> Our mirror sites are provided to us on a voluntary basis by various supporters around the world. If you wish to mirror PostgreSQL.org FTP or web sites, we need the following information to get started: - Geographic location of server. - IP address of mirror server, or a hostname is a CNAME DNS record is required. - Port number if non-standard. - IP addresses of 1 or 2 machines that you will use to rsync the site. For most sites this will be the same as the server. - Path to content (for FTP servers - eg: /pub/postgresql). Please send these details to webmaster@PostgreSQL.org. Our webmasters will contact you as soon as possible. In return for mirroring a site, we can offer you free inclusion in our <a href="/sponsor.html">sponsorship advert program</a>. If you wish to take up this offer please forward a suitable advert and the target URL to the webmaster following activation of your mirror. Please note that as of 2004-02-13, the FTP site requires around 2GB of space, and the website requires approximately 165MB. Both sites should be expected to grow, particularly the FTP site. ======================================================================== How about that? Regards, Dave.
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Hi,
On Wed, 18 Feb 2004, Dave Page wrote:
> How about that?
Perfect. Below, HTML tags are inserted:
mirror-howto.php
========================================================================
<P>
<h3>Mirroring the FTP or web site</h3>
<BR><BR>
Our mirror sites are provided to us on a voluntary basis by various
supporters around the world. If you wish to mirror PostgreSQL.org FTP or
web sites, we need the following information to get started:
<BR><BR>
<ul>
<li> Geographic location of server.
<li> IP address of mirror server, or a hostname is a CNAME DNS record is required.
<li> Port number if non-standard.
<li> IP addresses of 1 or 2 machines that you will use to rsync the site.
For most sites this will be the same as the server.
<li> Path to content (for FTP servers - eg: /pub/postgresql).
</ul>
<BR><BR>
Please send these details to <a href="webmaster@PostgreSQL.org>webmaster@PostgreSQL.org</a>.
Our webmasters will contact you as soon as possible. In return for
mirroring a site, we can offer you free inclusion in our <a
href="/sponsor.html">sponsorship advert program</a>. If you wish to take
up this offer please forward a suitable advert and the target URL to the
webmaster following activation of your mirror.
<BR><BR>
Please note that as of 2004-02-13, the FTP site requires around 2GB of
space, and the website requires approximately 165MB. Both sites should
be expected to grow, particularly the FTP site.
</P>
========================================================================
Dave, could you please submit it to CVS?
Regards,
- --
Devrim GUNDUZ
devrim@gunduz.org devrim.gunduz@linux.org.tr
http://www.TDMSoft.com
http://www.gunduz.org
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Can I take this and publish it more or less as is (perhaps with the rsync command line, too, though) in an article General Bits to promote more mirroring? --elein On Wed, Feb 18, 2004 at 03:53:27PM +0200, Devrim GUNDUZ wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > > Hi, > > On Wed, 18 Feb 2004, Dave Page wrote: > > > How about that? > > Perfect. Below, HTML tags are inserted: > > mirror-howto.php > ======================================================================== > <P> > <h3>Mirroring the FTP or web site</h3> > > <BR><BR> > > Our mirror sites are provided to us on a voluntary basis by various > supporters around the world. If you wish to mirror PostgreSQL.org FTP or > web sites, we need the following information to get started: > > <BR><BR> > <ul> > <li> Geographic location of server. > <li> IP address of mirror server, or a hostname is a CNAME DNS record is required. > <li> Port number if non-standard. > <li> IP addresses of 1 or 2 machines that you will use to rsync the site. > For most sites this will be the same as the server. > <li> Path to content (for FTP servers - eg: /pub/postgresql). > </ul> > <BR><BR> > > Please send these details to <a href="webmaster@PostgreSQL.org>webmaster@PostgreSQL.org</a>. > Our webmasters will contact you as soon as possible. In return for > mirroring a site, we can offer you free inclusion in our <a > href="/sponsor.html">sponsorship advert program</a>. If you wish to take > up this offer please forward a suitable advert and the target URL to the > webmaster following activation of your mirror. > <BR><BR> > Please note that as of 2004-02-13, the FTP site requires around 2GB of > space, and the website requires approximately 165MB. Both sites should > be expected to grow, particularly the FTP site. > </P> > ======================================================================== > > Dave, could you please submit it to CVS? > > Regards, > - -- > Devrim GUNDUZ > devrim@gunduz.org devrim.gunduz@linux.org.tr > http://www.TDMSoft.com > http://www.gunduz.org > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) > > iD8DBQFAM25Ztl86P3SPfQ4RAgJVAKCXj6dH+IiTCkOh8raGvz2xBJk3dQCgh8qh > EQK6JyDMZ9QmS4LtuNdv9g8= > =cBdw > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > > ---------------------------(end of broadcast)--------------------------- > TIP 9: the planner will ignore your desire to choose an index scan if your > joining column's datatypes do not match
> -----Original Message----- > From: elein [mailto:elein@varlena.com] > Sent: 19 February 2004 04:11 > To: Devrim GUNDUZ > Cc: Dave Page; PostgreSQL WWW Mailing List > Subject: Re: [pgsql-www] Mirror how-to? > > Can I take this and publish it more or less as is (perhaps > with the rsync command line, too, though) in an article > General Bits to promote more mirroring? The final version is online now at http://www.postgresql.org/mirrors-howto.html. Feel free to publish it, but I must admit to starting to think that maybe we have enough mirrors now - as I type there are 77 ftp mirrors and 49 web mirrors that are active, and a lot more that are currently offline for whatever reason. That's starting to be a lot of bandwidth just to keep them sync'ed up and we know from a previous stats exercise that some of them get very few hits. What do others think? Regards Dave.
On Feb 19, 2004, at 9:28 AM, Dave Page wrote: > > The final version is online now at > http://www.postgresql.org/mirrors-howto.html. Feel free to publish it, > but I must admit to starting to think that maybe we have enough mirrors > now - as I type there are 77 ftp mirrors and 49 web mirrors that are > active, and a lot more that are currently offline for whatever reason. > That's starting to be a lot of bandwidth just to keep them sync'ed up > and we know from a previous stats exercise that some of them get very > few hits. Hi Dave, just thinking lout, but on php.net they do limit 2 mirrors per country (4 for USA as the only exception I think). They do that for bandwidth purposes. Furthermore, the php webmasters have a script to monitor when a mirror goes down. If the downtime is over 1-2 days they will remove it from the list and email the mirror owner. In your case they get automagically deleted from the live list (as far as I understand) which is a good thing® I might suggest that we email (I can help you with this, if needed) the offline mirrors. I can also have the switch.ch Sunsite to mirror postgresql. This might come handy because, as far as I can see, you do not have a mirror in Switzerland. (Nothing urgent thou..) Eventually there could be an "official rule" to limit the number of mirrors in a said country. For the hits, I think that the general server load will be properly distributed when we will adopt the ip-2-country redirection. It would also be nice if the mirrors will keep at least one link pointing to the mirror site in their own website (as we do on dotgeek). This will also help as a sort of promotion. ta muchly David Costa > > What do others think? > > Regards Dave. > > ---------------------------(end of > broadcast)--------------------------- > TIP 4: Don't 'kill -9' the postmaster
> -----Original Message----- > From: David Costa [mailto:geeks@dotgeek.org] > Sent: 19 February 2004 08:43 > To: Dave Page > Cc: PostgreSQL WWW Mailing List > Subject: Re: [pgsql-www] Mirror how-to? > > > > Hi Dave, > just thinking lout, but on php.net they do limit 2 mirrors per country > (4 for USA as the only exception I think). > They do that for bandwidth purposes. > > Furthermore, the php webmasters have a script to monitor when > a mirror goes down. If the downtime is over 1-2 days they > will remove it from the list and email the mirror owner. Yes, we have a similar system. > In your case they get automagically deleted from the live > list (as far as I understand) which is a good thing(r) I might > suggest that we email (I can help you with this, if needed) > the offline mirrors. Hmm, that is a potentially tricky. /mirrors-ftp.php and -www.php both include only mirrors that have sync'ed in the last 48 hours, however the DNS build script includes all hosts that have sync'ed within 7 days iirc. The main reason is to prevent dropping DNS records for sites that are only offline for a short while. The best bet would probably be to add a flag to the mirrors table. If the last sync time goes past 48 hours ago, and the flag is not set, then an email is sent and the flag set for that mirror to prevent further messages. Whenever a mirror is sync'ed it's flag is unset. That would require a script, and mods to the database (the unsetting of the flag could be handled by a suitable trigger). > I can also have the switch.ch Sunsite to mirror postgresql. > This might come handy because, as far as I can see, you do > not have a mirror in Switzerland. (Nothing urgent thou..) There are, but they are both offline since 2004-02-01 :-( Regards, Dave.
If we really do not need more mirrors, it is not important to publish this info. A while back Marc, if I recall, was soliciting more mirrors. That is why I was suggesting it. If we've reached our bandwidth limits, then it is not an issue. --elein On Thu, Feb 19, 2004 at 08:28:34AM -0000, Dave Page wrote: > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: elein [mailto:elein@varlena.com] > > Sent: 19 February 2004 04:11 > > To: Devrim GUNDUZ > > Cc: Dave Page; PostgreSQL WWW Mailing List > > Subject: Re: [pgsql-www] Mirror how-to? > > > > Can I take this and publish it more or less as is (perhaps > > with the rsync command line, too, though) in an article > > General Bits to promote more mirroring? > > The final version is online now at > http://www.postgresql.org/mirrors-howto.html. Feel free to publish it, > but I must admit to starting to think that maybe we have enough mirrors > now - as I type there are 77 ftp mirrors and 49 web mirrors that are > active, and a lot more that are currently offline for whatever reason. > That's starting to be a lot of bandwidth just to keep them sync'ed up > and we know from a previous stats exercise that some of them get very > few hits. > > What do others think? > > Regards Dave. > > ---------------------------(end of broadcast)--------------------------- > TIP 4: Don't 'kill -9' the postmaster