Thread: Changes to Contributor List

Changes to Contributor List

From
Josh Berkus
Date:
Folks,

If possible, for the upcoming release we'd like to get the Contributor List on
developer.postgresql.org updated.   Can everyone please take a gander at:
http://developer.postgresql.org/bios.php

... and tell me what's out of date other than me & Vadim?   i.e.:

A) What contributors are missing from the list?
B) What contributors are listed under Major Developers who haven't contributed
any code since 7.1.0?
C) Who needs their e-mail address updated?
D) Who needs their description updated?  (Text, please ... I won't write it)

--
-Josh Berkus
 Aglio Database Solutions
 San Francisco


Re: [HACKERS] Changes to Contributor List

From
Tom Lane
Date:
Josh Berkus <josh@agliodbs.com> writes:
> B) What contributors are listed under Major Developers who haven't
> contributed any code since 7.1.0?

I think we had agreed that formerly-listed contributors would not be
deleted, but would be moved to a new section titled "Contributors
Emeritus" or some such.  Please make sure that Tom Lockhart and Vadim
get listed that way, at least.

            regards, tom lane

Re: [HACKERS] Changes to Contributor List

From
Josh Berkus
Date:
Tom,

> I think we had agreed that formerly-listed contributors would not be
> deleted, but would be moved to a new section titled "Contributors
> Emeritus" or some such.  Please make sure that Tom Lockhart and Vadim
> get listed that way, at least.

Yeah, I was thinking of moving them from "Major Contributors" to just
"Contributors".   We'd rather have a "Past Contributors"?

--
-Josh Berkus
 Aglio Database Solutions
 San Francisco


Re: [HACKERS] Changes to Contributor List

From
Bruce Momjian
Date:
Tom Lane wrote:
> Josh Berkus <josh@agliodbs.com> writes:
> > B) What contributors are listed under Major Developers who haven't
> > contributed any code since 7.1.0?
>
> I think we had agreed that formerly-listed contributors would not be
> deleted, but would be moved to a new section titled "Contributors
> Emeritus" or some such.  Please make sure that Tom Lockhart and Vadim
> get listed that way, at least.

Yes, I think we are going to use that Emeritus list only for special
contributors who aren't involved any more.  I think Brian ??? would be a
good addition too.  He was around during 1.X and 6.X. Marc?  Remember?

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Re: [HACKERS] Changes to Contributor List

From
Bruce Momjian
Date:
Tom Lane wrote:
> Josh Berkus <josh@agliodbs.com> writes:
> > B) What contributors are listed under Major Developers who haven't
> > contributed any code since 7.1.0?
>
> I think we had agreed that formerly-listed contributors would not be
> deleted, but would be moved to a new section titled "Contributors
> Emeritus" or some such.  Please make sure that Tom Lockhart and Vadim
> get listed that way, at least.


I think the "Emeritus" word might be too hard for non-native English
speakers, and even for less educated English speakers.

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Re: [HACKERS] Changes to Contributor List

From
Josh Berkus
Date:
Guys,

Oh, and how about we kill the Image Map of major developers?   It's about 4
years out of date, and makes developers.postgresql.org load like molasses in
January.

--
-Josh Berkus
 Aglio Database Solutions
 San Francisco


Re: [HACKERS] Changes to Contributor List

From
Bruce Momjian
Date:
Josh Berkus wrote:
> Guys,
>
> Oh, and how about we kill the Image Map of major developers?   It's about 4
> years out of date, and makes developers.postgresql.org load like molasses in
> January.

Agreed.  I think Jan is the only one who knows how to updated it.  Jan?

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Re: [HACKERS] Changes to Contributor List

From
Tom Lane
Date:
Bruce Momjian <pgman@candle.pha.pa.us> writes:
> Josh Berkus wrote:
>> Oh, and how about we kill the Image Map of major developers?   It's about 4
>> years out of date, and makes developers.postgresql.org load like molasses in
>> January.

> Agreed.

Yeah.  It was cute when we did it but it's overkill as a way of pointing
out that we have a worldwide development community.  We can just say
that...

            regards, tom lane

Re: [HACKERS] Changes to Contributor List

From
Josh Berkus
Date:
Tom,

> Yeah.  It was cute when we did it but it's overkill as a way of pointing
> out that we have a worldwide development community.  We can just say
> that...

I'll be happy to re-do it someday using OOo's imagemapper.   But not this week
...

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-Josh Berkus
 Aglio Database Solutions
 San Francisco


New developer site (Was: Re: [HACKERS] Changes to Contributor List)

From
Devrim GUNDUZ
Date:
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Josh,

On Wed, 5 Nov 2003, Josh Berkus wrote:

> Oh, and how about we kill the Image Map of major developers?   It's about 4
> years out of date, and makes developers.postgresql.org load like molasses in
> January.

I'm working on a new developer site. I've posted to -www & -core about
this some months ago. I've asked -core list to write theis opinions about
this, but noone replied me.

As we've talked a bit on -www, I will be using the same schema that
PostgreSQL.org uses; with slightly different colors. I wanted to finish it
before the release of v7.4. I'm very overloaded nowadays; so I hope to
finish it in a month.

So, could we please talk about developers site on a new thread? As I've
said before, I believe that developer.PostgreSQL.org seems so bad for us.

Regards,
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Re: New developer site (Was: Re: [HACKERS] Changes to

From
Robert Treat
Date:
On Thu, 2003-11-06 at 01:23, Devrim GUNDUZ wrote:
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> Josh,
>
> On Wed, 5 Nov 2003, Josh Berkus wrote:
>
> > Oh, and how about we kill the Image Map of major developers?   It's about 4
> > years out of date, and makes developers.postgresql.org load like molasses in
> > January.
>
> I'm working on a new developer site. I've posted to -www & -core about
> this some months ago. I've asked -core list to write theis opinions about
> this, but noone replied me.
>
> As we've talked a bit on -www, I will be using the same schema that
> PostgreSQL.org uses; with slightly different colors. I wanted to finish it
> before the release of v7.4. I'm very overloaded nowadays; so I hope to
> finish it in a month.
>
> So, could we please talk about developers site on a new thread? As I've
> said before, I believe that developer.PostgreSQL.org seems so bad for us.
>

Well, maybe instead of looking at how to redesign the
developer.postgresql.org website, we should break down each part of the
developers website and find a place for it in the main site.

Robert Treat
--
Build A Brighter Lamp :: Linux Apache {middleware} PostgreSQL


Re: [HACKERS] Changes to Contributor List

From
"Joshua D. Drake"
Date:

>> I think the "Emeritus" word might be too hard for non-native English
>> speakers, and even for less educated English speakers.
>
>
> Isn't that an even better reason to use it? :)

My personal opinion would be that they can use dictionary.com if they
don't know what it means.



>
> Chris
>
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Re: [HACKERS] Changes to Contributor List

From
Christopher Kings-Lynne
Date:
>>I think we had agreed that formerly-listed contributors would not be
>>deleted, but would be moved to a new section titled "Contributors
>>Emeritus" or some such.  Please make sure that Tom Lockhart and Vadim
>>get listed that way, at least.
>
> I think the "Emeritus" word might be too hard for non-native English
> speakers, and even for less educated English speakers.

Isn't that an even better reason to use it? :)

Chris



Re: [HACKERS] Changes to Contributor List

From
elein
Date:
emeritus is a perfectly good latin word.  No need to
dumb things down.

--elein

On Wed, Nov 05, 2003 at 05:26:29PM -0500, Bruce Momjian wrote:
> Tom Lane wrote:
> > Josh Berkus <josh@agliodbs.com> writes:
> > > B) What contributors are listed under Major Developers who haven't
> > > contributed any code since 7.1.0?
> >
> > I think we had agreed that formerly-listed contributors would not be
> > deleted, but would be moved to a new section titled "Contributors
> > Emeritus" or some such.  Please make sure that Tom Lockhart and Vadim
> > get listed that way, at least.
>
>
> I think the "Emeritus" word might be too hard for non-native English
> speakers, and even for less educated English speakers.
>
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Re: [HACKERS] Changes to Contributor List

From
Neil Conway
Date:
Josh Berkus <josh@agliodbs.com> writes:
> Oh, and how about we kill the Image Map of major developers?   It's about 4
> years out of date, and makes developers.postgresql.org load like molasses in
> January.

Personally, I don't really see the need for developer.postgresql.org
to be a separate sub-site. Since it is basically just a collection of
links to other resources (CVSweb, TODO list, devel docs build, etc.),
why not just make it a page or two on www.postgresql.org?

-Neil


Re: [HACKERS] Changes to Contributor List

From
Jan Wieck
Date:
Josh Berkus wrote:

> Folks,
>
> If possible, for the upcoming release we'd like to get the Contributor List on
> developer.postgresql.org updated.   Can everyone please take a gander at:
> http://developer.postgresql.org/bios.php
>
> ... and tell me what's out of date other than me & Vadim?   i.e.:
>
> A) What contributors are missing from the list?
> B) What contributors are listed under Major Developers who haven't contributed
> any code since 7.1.0?
> C) Who needs their e-mail address updated?
> D) Who needs their description updated?  (Text, please ... I won't write it)
>

Jan Wieck in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, USA, (JanWieck@Yahoo.com,
<a href="http://www.afilias.info">Afilias USA INC.</a>)

overhauled the query rewrite rule system, wrote our procedural languages
PL/pgSQL and PL/Tcl and many other complex features like TOAST.


Jan

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Re: [HACKERS] Changes to Contributor List

From
Peter Eisentraut
Date:
Josh Berkus writes:

> If possible, for the upcoming release we'd like to get the Contributor List on
> developer.postgresql.org updated.   Can everyone please take a gander at:
> http://developer.postgresql.org/bios.php

One thing that really puzzles me is this web page:

http://advocacy.postgresql.org/about/

This is sort of the same web page that we're talking about here, but it
lists the developers below the press contacts as also-rans.  What's worse,
this is the web page that people will get to if they go to if they go to
http://www.postgresql.org and click on the first link they see: "What
is...".  Don't get me wrong, press contacts and advocacy team deserve
recognition as well, but not on a page that is indirectly labelled "What
is PostgreSQL".  It makes it look like the project is run by marketing
dudes.

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