Thread: Can EXCEPT Be Used for To Solve This Problem?

Can EXCEPT Be Used for To Solve This Problem?

From
"Lane Van Ingen"
Date:
Given the following data in a table named 'foo' :    id   update_time           description    2    2005-08-24 00:10:00
 transaction1    2    2005-08-24 00:22:00   transaction2    2    2005-08-24 00:34:00   transaction3    2    2005-08-24
00:58:00  transaction4
 

I want to select 2nd oldest transaction from foo (transaction 3). The
solution below
works, but I think there may be a better way. Does anyone else have a better
idea?

select * from foo f1 join (select id, update_time  from foo      except  select id, max(update_time) as update_time
fromfoo  group by id) f2
 
using (id, update_time)
order by 1, 2 desc limit 1;




Re: Can EXCEPT Be Used for To Solve This Problem?

From
Michael Fuhr
Date:
On Wed, Aug 24, 2005 at 04:47:16PM -0400, Lane Van Ingen wrote:
> Given the following data in a table named 'foo' :
>      id   update_time           description
>      2    2005-08-24 00:10:00   transaction1
>      2    2005-08-24 00:22:00   transaction2
>      2    2005-08-24 00:34:00   transaction3
>      2    2005-08-24 00:58:00   transaction4
> 
> I want to select 2nd oldest transaction from foo (transaction 3). The
> solution below
> works, but I think there may be a better way. Does anyone else have a better
> idea?

Do you want the 2nd oldest transaction from the entire table?  If
so then the following should work:

SELECT *
FROM foo
ORDER BY update_time
OFFSET 1
LIMIT 1;

If that's not what you're after then please elaborate.

-- 
Michael Fuhr


Re: Can EXCEPT Be Used for To Solve This Problem?

From
Tom Lane
Date:
"Lane Van Ingen" <lvaningen@esncc.com> writes:
> I want to select 2nd oldest transaction from foo (transaction 3).

Can't you just do
select * from foo order by update_time desc offset 1 limit 1
        regards, tom lane


Re: Can EXCEPT Be Used for To Solve This Problem?

From
Michael Fuhr
Date:
On Wed, Aug 24, 2005 at 05:34:49PM -0600, Michael Fuhr wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 24, 2005 at 04:47:16PM -0400, Lane Van Ingen wrote:
> > Given the following data in a table named 'foo' :
> >      id   update_time           description
> >      2    2005-08-24 00:10:00   transaction1
> >      2    2005-08-24 00:22:00   transaction2
> >      2    2005-08-24 00:34:00   transaction3
> >      2    2005-08-24 00:58:00   transaction4
> > 
> > I want to select 2nd oldest transaction from foo (transaction 3). The

I just noticed that transaction3 isn't the 2nd oldest, it's the 3rd
oldest and the 2nd newest.  What are you really trying to do?

> > solution below
> > works, but I think there may be a better way. Does anyone else have a better
> > idea?
> 
> Do you want the 2nd oldest transaction from the entire table?  If
> so then the following should work:
> 
> SELECT *
> FROM foo
> ORDER BY update_time
> OFFSET 1
> LIMIT 1;

Flaw: this query assumes that the 2nd record in the ordered result
set is the 2nd oldest transaction, which isn't necessarily true.
If the update_time values aren't unique, then the 2nd record could
have the oldest time and not the 2nd oldest time.  Is that why you
were using EXCEPT?  To exclude all instances of the oldest time?

-- 
Michael Fuhr


Re: Can EXCEPT Be Used for To Solve This Problem?

From
Vivek Khera
Date:
On Aug 24, 2005, at 4:47 PM, Lane Van Ingen wrote:

> I want to select 2nd oldest transaction from foo (transaction 3). The
> solution below
> works, but I think there may be a better way. Does anyone else have  
> a better
> idea?

why not just select order by update_time desc limit 2 then discard  
the first row you fetch?


Vivek Khera, Ph.D.
+1-301-869-4449 x806




Re: Can EXCEPT Be Used for To Solve This Problem?

From
"Mark R. Dingee"
Date:
you can also do 

select ... order by update_time desc offset 1 limit 1

On Thursday 25 August 2005 10:47 am, Vivek Khera wrote:
> On Aug 24, 2005, at 4:47 PM, Lane Van Ingen wrote:
> > I want to select 2nd oldest transaction from foo (transaction 3). The
> > solution below
> > works, but I think there may be a better way. Does anyone else have
> > a better
> > idea?
>
> why not just select order by update_time desc limit 2 then discard
> the first row you fetch?
>
>
> Vivek Khera, Ph.D.
> +1-301-869-4449 x806
>
>
>
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