Thread: ROUND function ??

ROUND function ??

From
"Saurabh Mittal"
Date:
Hi,
 
select ROUND(0.5) ; returns 0
select ROUND(1.5) ; returns 2;
select ROUND(2.5) ; returns 2;
select ROUND(3.5) ; returns 4;....so on .
I'm sure you would have figured out what's happening !!! Why ??
How do I get to approximate any number x.5 as x+1 ??
 
Saurabh
 

Re: ROUND function ??

From
Tom Lane
Date:
"Saurabh Mittal" <lattim@hotmail.com> writes:
> select ROUND(0.5) ; returns 0
> select ROUND(1.5) ; returns 2;
> select ROUND(2.5) ; returns 2;
> select ROUND(3.5) ; returns 4;....so on .=20
> I'm sure you would have figured out what's happening !!! Why ??

Because the IEEE float math standard says so.  Round-to-nearest-even
is considered good practice.

> How do I get to approximate any number x.5 as x+1 ??

Try FLOOR(x + 0.5) if you really want the other behavior.
        regards, tom lane


Re: ROUND function ??

From
"Joe Conway"
Date:
> select ROUND(0.5) ; returns 0
> select ROUND(1.5) ; returns 2;
> select ROUND(2.5) ; returns 2;
> select ROUND(3.5) ; returns 4;....so on .
> I'm sure you would have figured out what's happening !!! Why ??
> How do I get to approximate any number x.5 as x+1 ??

Looks like a bug to me:

test=# select * from pg_proc where proname = 'round';proname | proowner | prolang | proisinh | proistrusted |
proiscachable|
 
proisstrict | pronargs | proretset | prorettype | proargtypes | probyte_pct
| properbyte_cpu | propercall_cpu | prooutin_ratio |       prosrc       |
probin
---------+----------+---------+----------+--------------+---------------+---
----------+----------+-----------+------------+-------------+-------------+-
---------------+----------------+----------------+--------------------+-----
---round   |        1 |      12 | f        | t            | t             | t
|        1 | f         |        701 |         701 |         100 |
0 |              0 |            100 | dround             | -round   |        1 |      14 | f        | t            | t
          | t
 
|        1 | f         |       1700 |        1700 |         100 |
0 |              0 |            100 | select round($1,0) | -round   |        1 |      12 | f        | t            | t
          | t
 
|        2 | f         |       1700 |     1700 23 |         100 |
0 |              0 |            100 | numeric_round      | -
(3 rows)

test=# select round(2.5);round
-------    2
(1 row)

test=# select round(2.5,0);round
-------    3
(1 row)

test=# select round(2.5::numeric);round
-------    3
(1 row)

When doing "select round(2.5)" the 2.5 gets cast as a float and the "dround"
function is used. When doing "select round(2.5,0)", or  "select
round(2.5::numeric)", the 2.5 gets cast as a numeric and the function
"numeric_round" is used, producing a different result. It looks like
"dround" simply calls the rint system function, so I'd guess the issue is
really there (and maybe platform dependent?). I do recall at least one
interpretation of rounding that calls for rounding a 5 to the even digit
(ASTM), so the rint behavior may not be strictly speaking a bug -- but
certainly having two different interpretations is.

In any case, use "select round(2.5,0)" for now.

Hope this helps,

Joe




Re: ROUND function ??

From
Allan Engelhardt
Date:
Tom Lane wrote:

> [...]Because the IEEE float math standard says so.  Round-to-nearest-even
> is considered good practice.

I learn something new every day.  :-)

While it is true that IEEE 754 defaults to "round-to-nearest", which means rounding midway points to even, it is
slightlyconfusing that this is implemented in the math library (libc) by the  rint  function (subject to compiler
defaultsand  fesetround  calls) while the  round  functions ((ll|l)?round(f|l)?) of the library does indeed 'round
half-waycases away from zero to the nearest integer', which is also the mathematical behavior.  Try
 
   % info libc Arithmetic Rounding   % info libc Arithmetic 'Arithmetic Functions' 'Rounding Functions'

on you local friendly U*ix clone and you shall find enlightenment...


The SQL standard seems to leave it implementation dependent ('92, sec 4.4.1):

        An approximation obtained by rounding of a numerical value N for        an <exact numeric type> T is a value V
representablein T such        that the absolute value of the difference between N and the nu-        merical value of V
isnot greater than half the absolute value        of the difference between two successive numerical values repre-
 sentable in T. If there are more than one such values V, then it is        implementation-defined which one is taken.
 


So PostgreSQL does "the right thing" (again!).


Allan.