Thread: copy and postgresql.conf

copy and postgresql.conf

From
"FERREIRA, William (VALTECH)"
Date:
hi,

i load data from files using copy method.
Files contain between 2 and 7 millions of rows, spread on 5 tables.

For loading all the data, it takes 40mn, and the same processing takes 17mn with Oracle.
I think that this time can be improved by changing postgresql configuration file.
But which parameters i need to manipulate and with which values ?

Here are the specifications of my system :
V250 architecture sun4u
2xCPU UltraSparc IIIi 1.28 GHz.
8 Go RAM.

Regards.

    Will


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Re: copy and postgresql.conf

From
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Date:
Hi William,
    which PostgreSQL version are you using? Newer (8.0+) versions have some
important performance improvements for the COPY command.

    Also, you'll notice significant improvements by creating primary & foreign
keys after the copy command. I think config tweaking can improve key and
index creation but I don't think you can improve the COPY command itself.

    There are also many threads in this list commenting on this issue, you'll
find it easely in the archives.

A Dimarts 14 Febrer 2006 10:44, FERREIRA, William (VALTECH) va escriure:
> hi,
>
> i load data from files using copy method.
> Files contain between 2 and 7 millions of rows, spread on 5 tables.
>
> For loading all the data, it takes 40mn, and the same processing takes 17mn
> with Oracle. I think that this time can be improved by changing postgresql
> configuration file. But which parameters i need to manipulate and with
> which values ?
>
> Here are the specifications of my system :
> V250 architecture sun4u
> 2xCPU UltraSparc IIIi 1.28 GHz.
> 8 Go RAM.
>
> Regards.
>
>     Will
>
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Re: copy and postgresql.conf

From
"FERREIRA, William (VALTECH)"
Date:
thanks,

i'm using postgresql 8.0.3
there is no primary key and no index on my tables

regards

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Objet : Re: [PERFORM] copy and postgresql.conf



Hi William,
    which PostgreSQL version are you using? Newer (8.0+) versions have some

important performance improvements for the COPY command.

    Also, you'll notice significant improvements by creating primary & foreign

keys after the copy command. I think config tweaking can improve key and

index creation but I don't think you can improve the COPY command itself.

    There are also many threads in this list commenting on this issue, you'll

find it easely in the archives.

A Dimarts 14 Febrer 2006 10:44, FERREIRA, William (VALTECH) va escriure:
> hi,
>
> i load data from files using copy method.
> Files contain between 2 and 7 millions of rows, spread on 5 tables.
>
> For loading all the data, it takes 40mn, and the same processing takes 17mn
> with Oracle. I think that this time can be improved by changing postgresql
> configuration file. But which parameters i need to manipulate and with
> which values ?
>
> Here are the specifications of my system :
> V250 architecture sun4u
> 2xCPU UltraSparc IIIi 1.28 GHz.
> 8 Go RAM.
>
> Regards.
>
>     Will
>
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Re: copy and postgresql.conf

From
Albert Cervera Areny
Date:
Sorry, COPY improvements came with 8.1
(http://www.postgresql.org/docs/whatsnew)

A Dimarts 14 Febrer 2006 14:26, FERREIRA, William (VALTECH) va escriure:
> thanks,
>
> i'm using postgresql 8.0.3
> there is no primary key and no index on my tables
>
> regards
>
> -----Message d'origine-----
> De : pgsql-performance-owner@postgresql.org
> [mailto:pgsql-performance-owner@postgresql.org]De la part de Albert
> Cervera Areny
> Envoyé : mardi 14 février 2006 12:38
> À : pgsql-performance@postgresql.org
> Objet : Re: [PERFORM] copy and postgresql.conf
>
>
>
> Hi William,
>     which PostgreSQL version are you using? Newer (8.0+) versions have some
>
> important performance improvements for the COPY command.
>
>     Also, you'll notice significant improvements by creating primary & foreign
>
> keys after the copy command. I think config tweaking can improve key and
>
> index creation but I don't think you can improve the COPY command itself.
>
>     There are also many threads in this list commenting on this issue, you'll
>
> find it easely in the archives.
>
> A Dimarts 14 Febrer 2006 10:44, FERREIRA, William (VALTECH) va escriure:
> > hi,
> >
> > i load data from files using copy method.
> > Files contain between 2 and 7 millions of rows, spread on 5 tables.
> >
> > For loading all the data, it takes 40mn, and the same processing takes
> > 17mn with Oracle. I think that this time can be improved by changing
> > postgresql configuration file. But which parameters i need to manipulate
> > and with which values ?
> >
> > Here are the specifications of my system :
> > V250 architecture sun4u
> > 2xCPU UltraSparc IIIi 1.28 GHz.
> > 8 Go RAM.
> >
> > Regards.
> >
> >     Will
> >
> >
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Re: copy and postgresql.conf

From
"FERREIRA, William (VALTECH)"
Date:
30% faster !!! i will test this new version ...

thanks a lot

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[mailto:pgsql-performance-owner@postgresql.org]De la part de Albert
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Envoyé : mardi 14 février 2006 17:07
À : pgsql-performance@postgresql.org
Objet : Re: [PERFORM] copy and postgresql.conf



Sorry, COPY improvements came with 8.1

(http://www.postgresql.org/docs/whatsnew)

A Dimarts 14 Febrer 2006 14:26, FERREIRA, William (VALTECH) va escriure:
> thanks,
>
> i'm using postgresql 8.0.3
> there is no primary key and no index on my tables
>
> regards
>
> -----Message d'origine-----
> De : pgsql-performance-owner@postgresql.org
> [mailto:pgsql-performance-owner@postgresql.org]De la part de Albert
> Cervera Areny
> Envoyé : mardi 14 février 2006 12:38
> À : pgsql-performance@postgresql.org
> Objet : Re: [PERFORM] copy and postgresql.conf
>
>
>
> Hi William,
>     which PostgreSQL version are you using? Newer (8.0+) versions have some
>
> important performance improvements for the COPY command.
>
>     Also, you'll notice significant improvements by creating primary & foreign
>
> keys after the copy command. I think config tweaking can improve key and
>
> index creation but I don't think you can improve the COPY command itself.
>
>     There are also many threads in this list commenting on this issue, you'll
>
> find it easely in the archives.
>
> A Dimarts 14 Febrer 2006 10:44, FERREIRA, William (VALTECH) va escriure:
> > hi,
> >
> > i load data from files using copy method.
> > Files contain between 2 and 7 millions of rows, spread on 5 tables.
> >
> > For loading all the data, it takes 40mn, and the same processing takes
> > 17mn with Oracle. I think that this time can be improved by changing
> > postgresql configuration file. But which parameters i need to manipulate
> > and with which values ?
> >
> > Here are the specifications of my system :
> > V250 architecture sun4u
> > 2xCPU UltraSparc IIIi 1.28 GHz.
> > 8 Go RAM.
> >
> > Regards.
> >
> >     Will
> >
> >
> > This e-mail is intended only for the above addressee. It may contain
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Re: copy and postgresql.conf

From
"Jignesh K. Shah"
Date:
What version of Solaris are you using?

Do you have the recommendations while using COPY on Solaris?
http://blogs.sun.com/roller/page/jkshah?entry=postgresql_on_solaris_better_use

wal_sync_method = fsync
wal_buffers = 128
checkpoint_segments = 128
bgwriter_percent = 0
bgwriter_maxpages = 0


And also for /etc/system on Solaris 10, 9 SPARC use the following

set maxphys=1048576
set md:md_maxphys=1048576
set segmap_percent=50
set ufs:freebehind=0
set msgsys:msginfo_msgmni = 3584
set semsys:seminfo_semmni = 4096
set shmsys:shminfo_shmmax = 15392386252
set shmsys:shminfo_shmmni = 4096


Can you try putting in one run with this values and send back your
experiences on whether it helps your workload or not?

Atleast I saw improvements using the above settings with COPY with
Postgres 8.0 and Postgres 8.1 on Solaris.

Regards,
Jignesh




FERREIRA, William (VALTECH) wrote:

>30% faster !!! i will test this new version ...
>
>thanks a lot
>
>-----Message d'origine-----
>De : pgsql-performance-owner@postgresql.org
>[mailto:pgsql-performance-owner@postgresql.org]De la part de Albert
>Cervera Areny
>Envoyé : mardi 14 février 2006 17:07
>À : pgsql-performance@postgresql.org
>Objet : Re: [PERFORM] copy and postgresql.conf
>
>
>
>Sorry, COPY improvements came with 8.1
>
>(http://www.postgresql.org/docs/whatsnew)
>
>A Dimarts 14 Febrer 2006 14:26, FERREIRA, William (VALTECH) va escriure:
>
>
>>thanks,
>>
>>i'm using postgresql 8.0.3
>>there is no primary key and no index on my tables
>>
>>regards
>>
>>-----Message d'origine-----
>>De : pgsql-performance-owner@postgresql.org
>>[mailto:pgsql-performance-owner@postgresql.org]De la part de Albert
>>Cervera Areny
>>Envoyé : mardi 14 février 2006 12:38
>>À : pgsql-performance@postgresql.org
>>Objet : Re: [PERFORM] copy and postgresql.conf
>>
>>
>>
>>Hi William,
>>    which PostgreSQL version are you using? Newer (8.0+) versions have some
>>
>>important performance improvements for the COPY command.
>>
>>    Also, you'll notice significant improvements by creating primary & foreign
>>
>>keys after the copy command. I think config tweaking can improve key and
>>
>>index creation but I don't think you can improve the COPY command itself.
>>
>>    There are also many threads in this list commenting on this issue, you'll
>>
>>find it easely in the archives.
>>
>>A Dimarts 14 Febrer 2006 10:44, FERREIRA, William (VALTECH) va escriure:
>>
>>
>>>hi,
>>>
>>>i load data from files using copy method.
>>>Files contain between 2 and 7 millions of rows, spread on 5 tables.
>>>
>>>For loading all the data, it takes 40mn, and the same processing takes
>>>17mn with Oracle. I think that this time can be improved by changing
>>>postgresql configuration file. But which parameters i need to manipulate
>>>and with which values ?
>>>
>>>Here are the specifications of my system :
>>>V250 architecture sun4u
>>>2xCPU UltraSparc IIIi 1.28 GHz.
>>>8 Go RAM.
>>>
>>>Regards.
>>>
>>>    Will
>>>
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Re: copy and postgresql.conf

From
"FERREIRA, William (VALTECH)"
Date:
i'm using Solaris8
i tried changing only postgresql parameters
and time has increased of 10mn

i keep in mind your idea, we will soon upgraded to solaris 10

regards

    Will

-----Message d'origine-----
De : J.K.Shah@Sun.COM [mailto:J.K.Shah@Sun.COM]
Envoyé : mardi 14 février 2006 22:47
À : FERREIRA, William (VALTECH)
Cc : Albert Cervera Areny; pgsql-performance@postgresql.org
Objet : Re: [PERFORM] copy and postgresql.conf



What version of Solaris are you using?

Do you have the recommendations while using COPY on Solaris?
http://blogs.sun.com/roller/page/jkshah?entry=postgresql_on_solaris_better_use

wal_sync_method = fsync
wal_buffers = 128
checkpoint_segments = 128
bgwriter_percent = 0
bgwriter_maxpages = 0


And also for /etc/system on Solaris 10, 9 SPARC use the following

set maxphys=1048576
set md:md_maxphys=1048576
set segmap_percent=50
set ufs:freebehind=0
set msgsys:msginfo_msgmni = 3584
set semsys:seminfo_semmni = 4096
set shmsys:shminfo_shmmax = 15392386252
set shmsys:shminfo_shmmni = 4096


Can you try putting in one run with this values and send back your
experiences on whether it helps your workload or not?

Atleast I saw improvements using the above settings with COPY with
Postgres 8.0 and Postgres 8.1 on Solaris.

Regards,
Jignesh




FERREIRA, William (VALTECH) wrote:

>30% faster !!! i will test this new version ...
>
>thanks a lot
>
>-----Message d'origine-----
>De : pgsql-performance-owner@postgresql.org
>[mailto:pgsql-performance-owner@postgresql.org]De la part de Albert
>Cervera Areny
>Envoyé : mardi 14 février 2006 17:07
>À : pgsql-performance@postgresql.org
>Objet : Re: [PERFORM] copy and postgresql.conf
>
>
>
>Sorry, COPY improvements came with 8.1
>
>(http://www.postgresql.org/docs/whatsnew)
>
>A Dimarts 14 Febrer 2006 14:26, FERREIRA, William (VALTECH) va escriure:
> 
>
>>thanks,
>>
>>i'm using postgresql 8.0.3
>>there is no primary key and no index on my tables
>>
>>regards
>>
>>-----Message d'origine-----
>>De : pgsql-performance-owner@postgresql.org
>>[mailto:pgsql-performance-owner@postgresql.org]De la part de Albert
>>Cervera Areny
>>Envoyé : mardi 14 février 2006 12:38
>>À : pgsql-performance@postgresql.org
>>Objet : Re: [PERFORM] copy and postgresql.conf
>>
>>
>>
>>Hi William,
>>    which PostgreSQL version are you using? Newer (8.0+) versions have some
>>
>>important performance improvements for the COPY command.
>>
>>    Also, you'll notice significant improvements by creating primary & foreign
>>
>>keys after the copy command. I think config tweaking can improve key and
>>
>>index creation but I don't think you can improve the COPY command itself.
>>
>>    There are also many threads in this list commenting on this issue, you'll
>>
>>find it easely in the archives.
>>
>>A Dimarts 14 Febrer 2006 10:44, FERREIRA, William (VALTECH) va escriure:
>>   
>>
>>>hi,
>>>
>>>i load data from files using copy method.
>>>Files contain between 2 and 7 millions of rows, spread on 5 tables.
>>>
>>>For loading all the data, it takes 40mn, and the same processing takes
>>>17mn with Oracle. I think that this time can be improved by changing
>>>postgresql configuration file. But which parameters i need to manipulate
>>>and with which values ?
>>>
>>>Here are the specifications of my system :
>>>V250 architecture sun4u
>>>2xCPU UltraSparc IIIi 1.28 GHz.
>>>8 Go RAM.
>>>
>>>Regards.
>>>
>>>    Will
>>>
>>>
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>>
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>>08202 - Sabadell (Barcelona)
>>Tel. 93 715 51 11
>>Fax. 93 715 51 12
>>
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Re: copy and postgresql.conf

From
Markus Schaber
Date:
Hi, Ferreira,

FERREIRA, William (VALTECH) wrote:

> i load data from files using copy method.
> Files contain between 2 and 7 millions of rows, spread on 5 tables.
>
> For loading all the data, it takes 40mn, and the same processing takes 17mn with Oracle.
> I think that this time can be improved by changing postgresql configuration file.
> But which parameters i need to manipulate and with which values ?

Increase the size of the wal.

If its just a develpoment environment, or you don't mind data
inconsistency in case of a crash, disable fsync.

HTH,
Markus


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Re: copy and postgresql.conf

From
"FERREIRA, William (VALTECH)"
Date:
i tested the last version version of PostgreSQL
and for the same test :
before : 40mn
and now : 12mn :)
faster than Oracle (exactly what i wanted :p )

thanks to everybody

    Will


-----Message d'origine-----
De : pgsql-performance-owner@postgresql.org
[mailto:pgsql-performance-owner@postgresql.org]De la part de Albert
Cervera Areny
Envoyé : mardi 14 février 2006 17:07
À : pgsql-performance@postgresql.org
Objet : Re: [PERFORM] copy and postgresql.conf



Sorry, COPY improvements came with 8.1

(http://www.postgresql.org/docs/whatsnew)

A Dimarts 14 Febrer 2006 14:26, FERREIRA, William (VALTECH) va escriure:
> thanks,
>
> i'm using postgresql 8.0.3
> there is no primary key and no index on my tables
>
> regards
>
> -----Message d'origine-----
> De : pgsql-performance-owner@postgresql.org
> [mailto:pgsql-performance-owner@postgresql.org]De la part de Albert
> Cervera Areny
> Envoyé : mardi 14 février 2006 12:38
> À : pgsql-performance@postgresql.org
> Objet : Re: [PERFORM] copy and postgresql.conf
>
>
>
> Hi William,
>     which PostgreSQL version are you using? Newer (8.0+) versions have some
>
> important performance improvements for the COPY command.
>
>     Also, you'll notice significant improvements by creating primary & foreign
>
> keys after the copy command. I think config tweaking can improve key and
>
> index creation but I don't think you can improve the COPY command itself.
>
>     There are also many threads in this list commenting on this issue, you'll
>
> find it easely in the archives.
>
> A Dimarts 14 Febrer 2006 10:44, FERREIRA, William (VALTECH) va escriure:
> > hi,
> >
> > i load data from files using copy method.
> > Files contain between 2 and 7 millions of rows, spread on 5 tables.
> >
> > For loading all the data, it takes 40mn, and the same processing takes
> > 17mn with Oracle. I think that this time can be improved by changing
> > postgresql configuration file. But which parameters i need to manipulate
> > and with which values ?
> >
> > Here are the specifications of my system :
> > V250 architecture sun4u
> > 2xCPU UltraSparc IIIi 1.28 GHz.
> > 8 Go RAM.
> >
> > Regards.
> >
> >     Will
> >
> >
> > This e-mail is intended only for the above addressee. It may contain
> > privileged information. If you are not the addressee you must not copy,
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Re: copy and postgresql.conf

From
"Jignesh K. Shah"
Date:
What's your postgresql.conf parameter for the equivalent ones that I
suggested?
I believe your wal_buffers and checkpoint_segments could be bigger. If
that's the case then yep you are fine.

As for the background writer I am seeing mixed results yet so not sure
about that.

But thanks for the feedback.

-Jignesh


FERREIRA, William (VALTECH) wrote:

>i tested the last version version of PostgreSQL
>and for the same test :
>before : 40mn
>and now : 12mn :)
>faster than Oracle (exactly what i wanted :p )
>
>thanks to everybody
>
>    Will
>
>
>-----Message d'origine-----
>De : pgsql-performance-owner@postgresql.org
>[mailto:pgsql-performance-owner@postgresql.org]De la part de Albert
>Cervera Areny
>Envoyé : mardi 14 février 2006 17:07
>À : pgsql-performance@postgresql.org
>Objet : Re: [PERFORM] copy and postgresql.conf
>
>
>
>Sorry, COPY improvements came with 8.1
>
>(http://www.postgresql.org/docs/whatsnew)
>
>A Dimarts 14 Febrer 2006 14:26, FERREIRA, William (VALTECH) va escriure:
>
>
>>thanks,
>>
>>i'm using postgresql 8.0.3
>>there is no primary key and no index on my tables
>>
>>regards
>>
>>-----Message d'origine-----
>>De : pgsql-performance-owner@postgresql.org
>>[mailto:pgsql-performance-owner@postgresql.org]De la part de Albert
>>Cervera Areny
>>Envoyé : mardi 14 février 2006 12:38
>>À : pgsql-performance@postgresql.org
>>Objet : Re: [PERFORM] copy and postgresql.conf
>>
>>
>>
>>Hi William,
>>    which PostgreSQL version are you using? Newer (8.0+) versions have some
>>
>>important performance improvements for the COPY command.
>>
>>    Also, you'll notice significant improvements by creating primary & foreign
>>
>>keys after the copy command. I think config tweaking can improve key and
>>
>>index creation but I don't think you can improve the COPY command itself.
>>
>>    There are also many threads in this list commenting on this issue, you'll
>>
>>find it easely in the archives.
>>
>>A Dimarts 14 Febrer 2006 10:44, FERREIRA, William (VALTECH) va escriure:
>>
>>
>>>hi,
>>>
>>>i load data from files using copy method.
>>>Files contain between 2 and 7 millions of rows, spread on 5 tables.
>>>
>>>For loading all the data, it takes 40mn, and the same processing takes
>>>17mn with Oracle. I think that this time can be improved by changing
>>>postgresql configuration file. But which parameters i need to manipulate
>>>and with which values ?
>>>
>>>Here are the specifications of my system :
>>>V250 architecture sun4u
>>>2xCPU UltraSparc IIIi 1.28 GHz.
>>>8 Go RAM.
>>>
>>>Regards.
>>>
>>>    Will
>>>
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Re: copy and postgresql.conf

From
"FERREIRA, William (VALTECH)"
Date:
with PostgreSQL 8.1.3, here are my parameters (it's the default configuration)

wal_sync_method = fsync
wal_buffers = 8
checkpoint_segments = 3
bgwriter_lru_percent = 1.0
bgwriter_lru_maxpages = 5
bgwriter_all_percent = 0.333
bgwriter_all_maxpages = 5

and you think times can be improved again ?

-----Message d'origine-----
De : J.K.Shah@Sun.COM [mailto:J.K.Shah@Sun.COM]
Envoyé : mercredi 15 février 2006 15:14
À : FERREIRA, William (VALTECH)
Cc : Albert Cervera Areny; pgsql-performance@postgresql.org
Objet : Re: [PERFORM] copy and postgresql.conf



What's your postgresql.conf parameter for the equivalent ones that I
suggested?
I believe your wal_buffers and checkpoint_segments could be bigger. If
that's the case then yep you are fine.

As for the background writer I am seeing mixed results yet so not sure
about that.

But thanks for the feedback.

-Jignesh


FERREIRA, William (VALTECH) wrote:

>i tested the last version version of PostgreSQL
>and for the same test :
>before : 40mn
>and now : 12mn :)
>faster than Oracle (exactly what i wanted :p )
>
>thanks to everybody
>
>    Will
>
>
>-----Message d'origine-----
>De : pgsql-performance-owner@postgresql.org
>[mailto:pgsql-performance-owner@postgresql.org]De la part de Albert
>Cervera Areny
>Envoyé : mardi 14 février 2006 17:07
>À : pgsql-performance@postgresql.org
>Objet : Re: [PERFORM] copy and postgresql.conf
>
>
>
>Sorry, COPY improvements came with 8.1
>
>(http://www.postgresql.org/docs/whatsnew)
>
>A Dimarts 14 Febrer 2006 14:26, FERREIRA, William (VALTECH) va escriure:
> 
>
>>thanks,
>>
>>i'm using postgresql 8.0.3
>>there is no primary key and no index on my tables
>>
>>regards
>>
>>-----Message d'origine-----
>>De : pgsql-performance-owner@postgresql.org
>>[mailto:pgsql-performance-owner@postgresql.org]De la part de Albert
>>Cervera Areny
>>Envoyé : mardi 14 février 2006 12:38
>>À : pgsql-performance@postgresql.org
>>Objet : Re: [PERFORM] copy and postgresql.conf
>>
>>
>>
>>Hi William,
>>    which PostgreSQL version are you using? Newer (8.0+) versions have some
>>
>>important performance improvements for the COPY command.
>>
>>    Also, you'll notice significant improvements by creating primary & foreign
>>
>>keys after the copy command. I think config tweaking can improve key and
>>
>>index creation but I don't think you can improve the COPY command itself.
>>
>>    There are also many threads in this list commenting on this issue, you'll
>>
>>find it easely in the archives.
>>
>>A Dimarts 14 Febrer 2006 10:44, FERREIRA, William (VALTECH) va escriure:
>>   
>>
>>>hi,
>>>
>>>i load data from files using copy method.
>>>Files contain between 2 and 7 millions of rows, spread on 5 tables.
>>>
>>>For loading all the data, it takes 40mn, and the same processing takes
>>>17mn with Oracle. I think that this time can be improved by changing
>>>postgresql configuration file. But which parameters i need to manipulate
>>>and with which values ?
>>>
>>>Here are the specifications of my system :
>>>V250 architecture sun4u
>>>2xCPU UltraSparc IIIi 1.28 GHz.
>>>8 Go RAM.
>>>
>>>Regards.
>>>
>>>    Will
>>>
>>>
>>>This e-mail is intended only for the above addressee. It may contain
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>>>
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>>
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>>08202 - Sabadell (Barcelona)
>>Tel. 93 715 51 11
>>Fax. 93 715 51 12
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Re: copy and postgresql.conf

From
"Jignesh K. Shah"
Date:
Actually  fsync is not the default on solaris (verify using "show all;)

(If you look closely in postgresql.conf it is commented out and
mentioned as default but show all tells a different story)

In all my cases I saw the default as
 wal_sync_method                 | open_datasync

Also I had seen quite an   improvement by changing the default
checkpoint_segments from 3 to 64 or 128 and also increasing wal_buffers
to 64  depending on how heavy is your load.

Also open_datasync type of operations benefit with forcedirectio on
Solaris and hence either move wal to forcedirectio mounted file system
or try changing default sync to fsync (the *said* default)

Now if you use fsync then you need a bigger file system cache since by
default Solaris's segmap mechanism only maps 12% of your physical ram to
be used for file system buffer cache. Increasing segmap_percent to 50 on
SPARC allows to use 50% of your RAM to be mapped to be used for 50% (
NOTE: It does not reserve but just allow mapping of the memory which can
be used for file system buffer cache)

Changing maxphys allows the file system buffer cache to coalesce writes
from the 8Ks that PostgreSQL is doing to bigger writes/reads. Also since
you are now exploiting file system buffer cache, file system Logging is
very much recommended (available from a later update of Solaris 8 I
believe).


Regards,
Jignesh





FERREIRA, William (VALTECH) wrote:

>with PostgreSQL 8.1.3, here are my parameters (it's the default configuration)
>
>wal_sync_method = fsync
>wal_buffers = 8
>checkpoint_segments = 3
>bgwriter_lru_percent = 1.0
>bgwriter_lru_maxpages = 5
>bgwriter_all_percent = 0.333
>bgwriter_all_maxpages = 5
>
>and you think times can be improved again ?
>
>-----Message d'origine-----
>De : J.K.Shah@Sun.COM [mailto:J.K.Shah@Sun.COM]
>Envoyé : mercredi 15 février 2006 15:14
>À : FERREIRA, William (VALTECH)
>Cc : Albert Cervera Areny; pgsql-performance@postgresql.org
>Objet : Re: [PERFORM] copy and postgresql.conf
>
>
>
>What's your postgresql.conf parameter for the equivalent ones that I
>suggested?
>I believe your wal_buffers and checkpoint_segments could be bigger. If
>that's the case then yep you are fine.
>
>As for the background writer I am seeing mixed results yet so not sure
>about that.
>
>But thanks for the feedback.
>
>-Jignesh
>
>
>FERREIRA, William (VALTECH) wrote:
>
>
>
>>i tested the last version version of PostgreSQL
>>and for the same test :
>>before : 40mn
>>and now : 12mn :)
>>faster than Oracle (exactly what i wanted :p )
>>
>>thanks to everybody
>>
>>    Will
>>
>>
>>-----Message d'origine-----
>>De : pgsql-performance-owner@postgresql.org
>>[mailto:pgsql-performance-owner@postgresql.org]De la part de Albert
>>Cervera Areny
>>Envoyé : mardi 14 février 2006 17:07
>>À : pgsql-performance@postgresql.org
>>Objet : Re: [PERFORM] copy and postgresql.conf
>>
>>
>>
>>Sorry, COPY improvements came with 8.1
>>
>>(http://www.postgresql.org/docs/whatsnew)
>>
>>A Dimarts 14 Febrer 2006 14:26, FERREIRA, William (VALTECH) va escriure:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>thanks,
>>>
>>>i'm using postgresql 8.0.3
>>>there is no primary key and no index on my tables
>>>
>>>regards
>>>
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>>>De : pgsql-performance-owner@postgresql.org
>>>[mailto:pgsql-performance-owner@postgresql.org]De la part de Albert
>>>Cervera Areny
>>>Envoyé : mardi 14 février 2006 12:38
>>>À : pgsql-performance@postgresql.org
>>>Objet : Re: [PERFORM] copy and postgresql.conf
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Hi William,
>>>    which PostgreSQL version are you using? Newer (8.0+) versions have some
>>>
>>>important performance improvements for the COPY command.
>>>
>>>    Also, you'll notice significant improvements by creating primary & foreign
>>>
>>>keys after the copy command. I think config tweaking can improve key and
>>>
>>>index creation but I don't think you can improve the COPY command itself.
>>>
>>>    There are also many threads in this list commenting on this issue, you'll
>>>
>>>find it easely in the archives.
>>>
>>>A Dimarts 14 Febrer 2006 10:44, FERREIRA, William (VALTECH) va escriure:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>hi,
>>>>
>>>>i load data from files using copy method.
>>>>Files contain between 2 and 7 millions of rows, spread on 5 tables.
>>>>
>>>>For loading all the data, it takes 40mn, and the same processing takes
>>>>17mn with Oracle. I think that this time can be improved by changing
>>>>postgresql configuration file. But which parameters i need to manipulate
>>>>and with which values ?
>>>>
>>>>Here are the specifications of my system :
>>>>V250 architecture sun4u
>>>>2xCPU UltraSparc IIIi 1.28 GHz.
>>>>8 Go RAM.
>>>>
>>>>Regards.
>>>>
>>>>    Will
>>>>
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Re: copy and postgresql.conf

From
Tom Lane
Date:
"FERREIRA, William (VALTECH)" <william.ferreira@airbus.com> writes:
> with PostgreSQL 8.1.3, here are my parameters (it's the default configuration)

> wal_sync_method = fsync
> wal_buffers = 8
> checkpoint_segments = 3
> bgwriter_lru_percent = 1.0
> bgwriter_lru_maxpages = 5
> bgwriter_all_percent = 0.333
> bgwriter_all_maxpages = 5

> and you think times can be improved again ?

Increasing checkpoint_segments will definitely help for any write-intensive
situation.  It costs you in disk space of course, as well as the time
needed for post-crash recovery.

            regards, tom lane