Thread: Is there a gui front end for this wonderful db program which works like MSAccess?
Is there a gui front end for this wonderful db program which works like MSAccess?
From
Fred Frazelle
Date:
Have looked far and wide and haven't found one yet. Have tried Navicat, DbWrench, EDb-win32, PGAdmin III, and several others. All pretty much allow table creation and i can link my two tables and some even allow queries but when i run the query, all i get is the first row. But the supposedly the automatic ID is not inserted and even though i can insert data into the first row, the ID must be inserted by hand. Don't know what to do. Am waiting on OpenOffice to upgrade their driver or whatever it is they need to upgrade in order to create linked queries which are able to not only select but update the db as well. Any ideas? A little background... i've been looking for more than a year now and want something which is multiuser bec. there are about 15 of us in our child development department office. We put an Access db together ourselves which serves our needs pretty nicely but our IT Dept. wants us go out and buy another program bec. Access chokes or coughs at least a couple of times a week and they say it's bec. we have too many users trying to access it at once (15 is too many?). Our db only holds about 1500 records and we've maybe got 3 linked tables. It's pretty simple but we were able to put it together ourselves and have been able to convert all our old paper forms to Access and make up all of the reports the state and county need. We figure if we can find a way to use PostgreSQL by ourselves and port? over most of the tables and at least some of the forms and reports to begin with, we could convince our IT dept. and our boss not to spend the taxpayers money on another propietary db. Besides the new one they are thinking about buying cannot be modified by us. None of us are programmers. We work with the public. We've gotten as far as being able to download and install PostgreSQL and have been able to set up the server? and have created a couple of tables and linked them. That's it. Who knows, maybe one of these days we can even convince them to use a real OS like Linux which would save even more. Well, here goes. Have a great day! :)
Re: Is there a gui front end for this wonderful db program which works like MSAccess?
From
"Andrew Hammond"
Date:
Have you considered using the ODBC driver to plug your access front-end into a postgres database?
On 7/23/06, Fred Frazelle < frazelle09@yahoo.com> wrote:
Have looked far and wide and haven't found one yet. Have tried
Navicat, DbWrench, EDb-win32, PGAdmin III, and several others. All
pretty much allow table creation and i can link my two tables and some
even allow queries but when i run the query, all i get is the first
row. But the supposedly the automatic ID is not inserted and even
though i can insert data into the first row, the ID must be inserted by
hand. Don't know what to do. Am waiting on OpenOffice to upgrade
their driver or whatever it is they need to upgrade in order to create
linked queries which are able to not only select but update the db as well.
Any ideas?
A little background... i've been looking for more than a year now and want
something which is multiuser bec. there are about 15 of us in our
child development department office. We put an Access db together
ourselves which serves our needs pretty nicely but our IT Dept. wants us
go out and buy another program bec. Access chokes or coughs at least a couple of times a week and they say it's bec. we have too many users trying to
access it at once (15 is too many?). Our db only holds about 1500
records and we've maybe got 3 linked tables. It's pretty simple but we
were able to put it together ourselves and have been able to convert
all our old paper forms to Access and make up all of the reports the
state and county need. We figure if we can find a way to use
PostgreSQL by ourselves and port? over most of the tables and at least
some of the forms and reports to begin with, we could convince our IT dept. and our
boss not to spend the taxpayers money on another propietary db. Besides the new one they are thinking about buying cannot be modified by us.
None of us are programmers. We work with the public. We've gotten as far as being able to download and install PostgreSQL and have been able to set up the server? and have created a couple of tables and linked them. That's it. Who
knows, maybe one of these days we can even convince them to use a real
OS like Linux which would save even more. Well, here goes. Have a
great day! :)
Re: Is there a gui front end for this wonderful db program which works like MSAccess?
From
Richard Broersma Jr
Date:
>> But the supposedly the automatic ID is not inserted and even >> though i can insert data into the first row, the ID must be inserted by >> hand. Don't know what to do. Postgresql doesn't have an automatic ID is the sense that access does. Postgresql uses a datatype called serial. It's default value is an automatically generated id. However in access, when a new record is "started" before it is inserted into a postgresql table, the automatic ID will display as a blank field until you apply the changes. Simply leave the blank field as a blank. When you are finished with the new record and commit it the the postgresql table, the next value will display. >> Am waiting on OpenOffice to upgrade >> Any ideas? How about the odbc drive for postgresql for use with MS Access. Then you can simply link postgresql tables into your MS access project. see the following link for the driver to download: http://pgfoundry.org/projects/psqlodbc/ http://www.postgresql.org/download/ >> Access chokes or coughs at least acouple of times a week >> and they say it's bec. we have too many userstrying to >> access it at once (15 is too many?) It depends, MS access does not lock single records it locks 4K page of the table. This page can contain many records. So if person a is editing a record close to the one person b want to edit, be will be prevented from editing becuase of the page lock. For more information see: http://www.developer.com/tech/article.php/721911
Andrew Hammond wrote:
<blockquote
cite="mid5a0a9d6f0607231403i3d4dbb2er38937e687cfa7805@mail.gmail.com"
type="cite">Have you considered using the ODBC driver to plug your
access front-end into a postgres database?
On 7/23/06, <b
class="gmail_sendername">Fred Frazelle <<a
href="mailto:frazelle09@yahoo.com">
frazelle09@yahoo.com> wrote:
<blockquote class="gmail_quote"
style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
Have looked far and wide
and haven't found one yet. Have tried
Navicat, DbWrench, EDb-win32, PGAdmin III, and several others. All
pretty much allow table creation and i can link my two tables and some
even allow queries but when i run the query, all i get is the first
row. But the supposedly the automatic ID is not inserted and even
though i can insert data into the first row, the ID must be inserted by
hand. Don't know what to do. Am waiting on OpenOffice to upgrade
their driver or whatever it is they need to upgrade in order to create
linked queries which are able to not only select but update the db as
well.
Any ideas?
A little background... i've been looking for more than a year now and
want
something which is multiuser bec. there are about 15 of us in our
child development department office. We put an Access db together
ourselves which serves our needs pretty nicely but our IT Dept. wants us
go out and buy another program bec. Access chokes or coughs at least a
couple of times a week and they say it's bec. we have too many users
trying to
access it at once (15 is too many?). Our db only holds about 1500
records and we've maybe got 3 linked tables. It's pretty simple but we
were able to put it together ourselves and have been able to convert
all our old paper forms to Access and make up all of the reports the
state and county need. We figure if we can find a way to use
PostgreSQL by ourselves and port? over most of the tables and at least
some of the forms and reports to begin with, we could convince our IT
dept. and our
boss not to spend the taxpayers money on another propietary db. Besides
the new one they are thinking about buying cannot be modified by us.
None of us are programmers. We work with the public. We've gotten as
far as being able to download and install PostgreSQL and have been able
to set up the server? and have created a couple of tables and linked
them. That's it. Who
knows, maybe one of these days we can even convince them to use a real
OS like Linux which would save even more. Well, here goes. Have a
great day! :)
Thanks Andrew!
Yes, we have considered this approach, but we are trying to develop
an alternative to MS now so that when the IT dept. comes around the
next time and offers us an upgrade to the MS Office suite, we can have
our alternative working and be able to suggest to them that they
investigate some other Office suite, for example Open Office, and that
we also have a db solution to Access.
Have a great afternoon and thanks again! <span
class="moz-smiley-s1"> :-)
Re: Is there a gui front end for this wonderful db program which works like MSAccess?
From
Richard Broersma Jr
Date:
Am waiting on OpenOffice to upgrade their driver or whatever it is they need to upgrade in order to create linked queries which are able to not only select but update the db aswell. Any ideas? If odbc is not what you want for ms-access you could use the driver for open office. http://dba.openoffice.org/drivers/postgresql/index.html Regards, Richard Broersma Jr.
Richard Broersma Jr wrote: > Am waiting on OpenOffice to upgrade > their driver or whatever it is they need to upgrade in order to create > linked queries which are able to not only select but update the db aswell. > Any ideas? > > If odbc is not what you want for ms-access you could use the driver for open office. > http://dba.openoffice.org/drivers/postgresql/index.html > > Regards, > > Richard Broersma Jr. > > Thanks Richard. i think i need to explain myself a little bit better. i´m not looking for a driver to work with Access but with Postgresql. i want to get away from Access bec. of the problems we have with it and bec. Postgres seems to be so much more robust, scalable? and secure. And i guess i´m not looking for a driver per se, but a frontend which would give us the funcionality of Access. i have tried using the driver for OOo and postgresql, but it still isn´t robust enough to allow me to create two tables, link them properly, create a query on both, linked tables, and begin inserting data into both tables. The following link shows the OOo database developer´s request for a programmer to help out http://dba.openoffice.org/servlets/ReadMsg?listName=dev&msgNo=2290 Have a great day! :) P.D. boy i sure hope this comes out in plane text.
> And i guess i´m not looking for a driver per se, but a frontend which > would give us the funcionality of Access. I understand a what you are looking for a little bit better. That being the case, I think I should dispel a notion that I think you have regarding postgresql. In access, you can create two tables. You can also create a select query that will join both tables. The following things can be achieved in the same way with postgresql as well. However the similarities slightly diverge with your next requirement. In postgresql, you can not insert a record in to a query view (where the linked tables in the select statement are cascaded related insert statements) as ms-access allows you to do. This functionality can be achieved by creating a view (i.e. a query stored on the server) and then by adding insert, update, and deleted rules to that view; all changes to the views records will be directed to the appropriate tables that the view as created from. http://www.postgresql.org/docs/8.1/interactive/tutorial-views.html http://www.postgresql.org/docs/8.1/interactive/rules-update.html Using this functionality, you could bind a form (i.e. like ms-access/odbc or OOO) to this newly created view to get the same functionality you would get from an ms-access select query. of course, an alternative to creating a view with rules is to use one of the many client interface APIs. With these, you could simulate the same functionality using code. This solution requires a steeper learning curve however. Regards, Richard Broersma Jr.
Re: Is there a gui front end for this wonderful db program which works like MSAccess?
From
Tom
Date:
Would the kde application kexi help you ? tom
You may want to try "PG Lightning Admin". You can get a shareware version from their site (like 30 days) and I think that the licensed version is like 50 bucks. It has a form view that you might be able to use. (i only found that yesterday. :)) http://www.nabble.com/user-files/102/FormView1.gif It's really meant for Database Administration/Development but has some features that are access-like. It even has a query builder (from under the Create View component...) Anyway's, sorry if this is totally not what you were looking for but wanted to forward it along just in case it helped... Check out their website and look at the screenshots to see if this would be interesting to you before downloading. (that way there isn't one more applicaiton in your applicaitons tray. :)) It would move you away from access and totally into PostgreSQL though (albeit, with a 3rd party frontend)... -Paul -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Is-there-a-gui-front-end-for-this-wonderful-db-program-which-works-like-MSAccess--tf1988857.html#a5478375 Sent from the PostgreSQL - novice forum at Nabble.com.
"You may want to try "PG Lightning Admin". You can get a shareware version from their site (like 30 days) and I think that the licensed version is like 50 bucks. " Thanks a lot, Paul. i'll try looking into it. The price is just about right, too. i think i've seen it before, but perhaps they have improved it. Thanks again! -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Is-there-a-gui-front-end-for-this-wonderful-db-program-which-works-like-MSAccess--tf1988857.html#a5607247 Sent from the PostgreSQL - novice forum at Nabble.com.
No problem. I've actually just downloaded and tried the Navicat version for postgres as well. The windows version has a scheduler built in that allows you to schedule backups as well. It integrates with the Windows Scheduler and is pretty neat. -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Is-there-a-gui-front-end-for-this-wonderful-db-program-which-works-like-MSAccess--tf1988857.html#a5624804 Sent from the PostgreSQL - novice forum at Nabble.com.