Thread: Moving to pgfoundry

Moving to pgfoundry

From
Dave Cramer
Date:
It would appear this is inevitable.

What do we need to do to make this happen ?

Move CVS

anything else ?

Dave

Re: Moving to pgfoundry

From
Oliver Jowett
Date:
Dave Cramer wrote:
> It would appear this is inevitable.
>
> What do we need to do to make this happen ?
>
> Move CVS
>
> anything else ?

Isn't this a question you should be asking the gborg/pgfoundry maintainers?

-O

Re: Moving to pgfoundry

From
Dave Cramer
Date:
On 6-Sep-06, at 4:14 PM, Oliver Jowett wrote:

> Dave Cramer wrote:
>> It would appear this is inevitable.
>> What do we need to do to make this happen ?
>> Move CVS
>> anything else ?
>
> Isn't this a question you should be asking the gborg/pgfoundry
> maintainers?
The question is do we want to retain CVS history ? If not this is
trivial. If so; not so trivial.

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Re: Moving to pgfoundry

From
Oliver Jowett
Date:
Dave Cramer wrote:
>
> On 6-Sep-06, at 4:14 PM, Oliver Jowett wrote:
>
>> Dave Cramer wrote:
>>> It would appear this is inevitable.
>>> What do we need to do to make this happen ?
>>> Move CVS
>>> anything else ?
>>
>> Isn't this a question you should be asking the gborg/pgfoundry
>> maintainers?
> The question is do we want to retain CVS history ? If not this is
> trivial. If so; not so trivial.

We would need to retain the CVS branches we have, and we'd need *access*
to CVS history even if it's not actually live in the repository that we use.

What's the issue with preserving history?

-O

Re: Moving to pgfoundry

From
Dave Cramer
Date:
On 6-Sep-06, at 5:14 PM, Oliver Jowett wrote:

> Dave Cramer wrote:
>> On 6-Sep-06, at 4:14 PM, Oliver Jowett wrote:
>>> Dave Cramer wrote:
>>>> It would appear this is inevitable.
>>>> What do we need to do to make this happen ?
>>>> Move CVS
>>>> anything else ?
>>>
>>> Isn't this a question you should be asking the gborg/pgfoundry
>>> maintainers?
>> The question is do we want to retain CVS history ? If not this is
>> trivial. If so; not so trivial.
>
> We would need to retain the CVS branches we have, and we'd need
> *access* to CVS history even if it's not actually live in the
> repository that we use.
>
> What's the issue with preserving history?

The two machines are physically different, so consider this moving
the repository. My recollection is that you have to physically  move
the entire repository; is there another way ?

I dont' think we can count on having the history available on gborg,
they're planning on pulling the plug.

--dc--
>
> -O
>


Re: Moving to pgfoundry

From
Oliver Jowett
Date:
Dave Cramer wrote:
> On 6-Sep-06, at 5:14 PM, Oliver Jowett wrote:

>> What's the issue with preserving history?
>
> The two machines are physically different, so consider this moving the
> repository. My recollection is that you have to physically  move the
> entire repository; is there another way ?

Well, if we can copy the whole raw repository (all the ,v files) I think
that works, they're not architecture-dependent at all AFAIK. That would
preserve all history.

-O

Re: Moving to pgfoundry

From
Christopher Browne
Date:
The world rejoiced as pg@fastcrypt.com (Dave Cramer) wrote:
> On 6-Sep-06, at 5:14 PM, Oliver Jowett wrote:
>
>> Dave Cramer wrote:
>>> On 6-Sep-06, at 4:14 PM, Oliver Jowett wrote:
>>>> Dave Cramer wrote:
>>>>> It would appear this is inevitable.
>>>>> What do we need to do to make this happen ?
>>>>> Move CVS
>>>>> anything else ?
>>>>
>>>> Isn't this a question you should be asking the gborg/pgfoundry
>>>> maintainers?
>>> The question is do we want to retain CVS history ? If not this is
>>> trivial. If so; not so trivial.
>>
>> We would need to retain the CVS branches we have, and we'd need
>> *access* to CVS history even if it's not actually live in the
>> repository that we use.
>>
>> What's the issue with preserving history?
>
> The two machines are physically different, so consider this moving
> the repository. My recollection is that you have to physically move
> the entire repository; is there another way ?
>
> I don't think we can count on having the history available on gborg,
> they're planning on pulling the plug.

If the recovery goes OK, it *ought* to be possible to copy the CVS
repository as set of files from old server to new server.

We're hoping for that for Slony-I; we'd certainly like to be able to
preserve that old history.

I'm hearing mixed reviews as to the merits of pgFoundry as an
alternative; apparently it's already somewhat overloaded, so that some
of the admins are concerned about adding more to it.  There's some new
hardware (an AMD-64 box of some sort), but it hasn't been fully tested
out yet.

On the Slony-I side, we're talking over some other options than
pgFoundry; JDBC seems important enough that I would urge making sure
you maintain remote backups of CVS whatever your direction is.

One failure: Shame on them; if it falls over again, and there aren't
good backups, *that* gets embarrassing...
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Re: Moving to pgfoundry

From
Dave Cramer
Date:
On 6-Sep-06, at 9:55 PM, Christopher Browne wrote:

> The world rejoiced as pg@fastcrypt.com (Dave Cramer) wrote:
>> On 6-Sep-06, at 5:14 PM, Oliver Jowett wrote:
>>
>>> Dave Cramer wrote:
>>>> On 6-Sep-06, at 4:14 PM, Oliver Jowett wrote:
>>>>> Dave Cramer wrote:
>>>>>> It would appear this is inevitable.
>>>>>> What do we need to do to make this happen ?
>>>>>> Move CVS
>>>>>> anything else ?
>>>>>
>>>>> Isn't this a question you should be asking the gborg/pgfoundry
>>>>> maintainers?
>>>> The question is do we want to retain CVS history ? If not this is
>>>> trivial. If so; not so trivial.
>>>
>>> We would need to retain the CVS branches we have, and we'd need
>>> *access* to CVS history even if it's not actually live in the
>>> repository that we use.
>>>
>>> What's the issue with preserving history?
>>
>> The two machines are physically different, so consider this moving
>> the repository. My recollection is that you have to physically move
>> the entire repository; is there another way ?
>>
>> I don't think we can count on having the history available on gborg,
>> they're planning on pulling the plug.
>
> If the recovery goes OK, it *ought* to be possible to copy the CVS
> repository as set of files from old server to new server.

Right
> We're hoping for that for Slony-I; we'd certainly like to be able to
> preserve that old history.
>
> I'm hearing mixed reviews as to the merits of pgFoundry as an
> alternative; apparently it's already somewhat overloaded, so that some
> of the admins are concerned about adding more to it.  There's some new
> hardware (an AMD-64 box of some sort), but it hasn't been fully tested
> out yet.
>
> On the Slony-I side, we're talking over some other options than
> pgFoundry; JDBC seems important enough that I would urge making sure
> you maintain remote backups of CVS whatever your direction is.
What are the other options you are discussing ? We may be interested
too.
>
> One failure: Shame on them; if it falls over again, and there aren't
> good backups, *that* gets embarrassing...
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> "@" [name;tld];;
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