Thread: Re: [HACKERS] Re: [ADMIN] User administration tool

<moved to -interfaces, where it belongs ... >

On Fri, 30 Mar 2001, Bruce Momjian wrote:

> > > Wow, I see.  I never suspected it did that too.  :-)  Seems I don't need
> > > to write anything, except perhaps add group capabilities to pgaccess.
> >
> > Isn't phpPgAdmin yet another tool of this type? I haven't tried it myself,
> > (no need, myself being the only user...) but the web page
> > (http://www.greatbridge.org/project/phppgadmin/projdisplay.php) says:
>
> Yes, it is.  Some people prefer a non-web interaface.

I could understand this sentiment if you were doing something from the
command line, but if you are doing an interface in tcl/tk, I think a web
interface fairs better ...

tcl/tk, you have to be on the same machine or risk "network problems"
losing your link ... web, its a stateless connection, so each time you do
something, it re-establishes the connection and performs the operation ...

IMHO, a web interface will always be appropriate in a network environment,
unless you have the luxury of sitting on the same machine you are running
the X app (tcl/tk) on ... *shrug*

The Hermit Hacker writes:

> > Yes, it is.  Some people prefer a non-web interaface.
>
> I could understand this sentiment if you were doing something from the
> command line, but if you are doing an interface in tcl/tk, I think a web
> interface fairs better ...
>
> tcl/tk, you have to be on the same machine or risk "network problems"
> losing your link ...

A Tcl/Tk applications doesn't risk any more network problems than any
other interface to the database, unless that interface is run on the same
machine as the database, which is by no means a given.

If you are under a constant risk of "network problems" then you better fix
your network.  A web interface won't magically bridge network problems.

> web, its a stateless connection, so each time you do something, it
> re-establishes the connection and performs the operation ...

It makes the whole thing slower and won't let you preserve state.  This
seems to be a disadvantage to me.

-- 
Peter Eisentraut      peter_e@gmx.net       http://yi.org/peter-e/

On Fri, 30 Mar 2001, Peter Eisentraut wrote:

> The Hermit Hacker writes:
>
> > > Yes, it is.  Some people prefer a non-web interaface.
> >
> > I could understand this sentiment if you were doing something from the
> > command line, but if you are doing an interface in tcl/tk, I think a web
> > interface fairs better ...
> >
> > tcl/tk, you have to be on the same machine or risk "network problems"
> > losing your link ...
>
> A Tcl/Tk applications doesn't risk any more network problems than any
> other interface to the database, unless that interface is run on the same
> machine as the database, which is by no means a given.
>
> If you are under a constant risk of "network problems" then you better fix
> your network.  A web interface won't magically bridge network problems.

my "network problem" happens to be a database server half way across the
country from me ... running a tcl/tk interface would be useless, while a
web interface does exactly what I need ...