Thread: [RFC] Proposed split of -interfaces list ...

[RFC] Proposed split of -interfaces list ...

From
The Hermit Hacker
Date:
After some discussions with various members of the project, it was
suggested that an RFC be sent out to the -interfaces list asking for
opinions ...

Due to the growing volume on these lists, primarily around the ODBC and
JDBC drivers, I'm proposing that a split to this list be made, so that we
have:
pgsql-interfaces-odbc@postgresql.org    - ODBC related discussions
pgsql-interfaces-jdbc@postgresql.org    - JDBC related discussions
pgsql-interfaces@postgresql.org    - libpq, libpq++, python, tcl

The point of this would be to make it easier for those interested in one
of ODBC/JDBC to follow discussions without having the other interfaces
mixed in amongst it ...

Eventually, if we need to, we can break off stuff like
python/tcl/libpq,etc, but right now their volume is such that, I'd hazard
a guess, they account for 1/3 of the traffic on the list, while ODBC/JDBC
each account for 1/3 ...

Now, one of the suggestions made was to 'disband' -interfaces and replace
it with -interfaces-misc ... I'm kind of on the fence with that idea,
simply because it means that those that aren't interested in JDBC/ODBC now
have to re-subscribe to a new list ...

I can create the lists and, if ppl use them, great ... if they don't, fine
too ... but would like some feedback, as unless ppl do use the new lists,
there is no point in creating them ...

Marc G. Fournier                   ICQ#7615664               IRC Nick: Scrappy
Systems Administrator @ hub.org
primary: scrappy@hub.org           secondary: scrappy@{freebsd|postgresql}.org



RE: [RFC] Proposed split of -interfaces list ...

From
Dave Page
Date:

> -----Original Message-----
> From: The Hermit Hacker [mailto:scrappy@hub.org]
> Sent: 18 January 2001 03:26
> To: pgsql-interfaces@postgresql.org
> Subject: [INTERFACES] [RFC] Proposed split of -interfaces list ...
> 
> 
> 
> After some discussions with various members of the project, it was
> suggested that an RFC be sent out to the -interfaces list asking for
> opinions ...
> 
> Due to the growing volume on these lists, primarily around 
> the ODBC and
> JDBC drivers, I'm proposing that a split to this list be 
> made, so that we
> have:
> 
>     pgsql-interfaces-odbc@postgresql.org
>         - ODBC related discussions
> 
>     pgsql-interfaces-jdbc@postgresql.org
>         - JDBC related discussions
> 
>     pgsql-interfaces@postgresql.org
>         - libpq, libpq++, python, tcl

Sound good to me. I do seem to end up wading through a mass of JDBC stuff
which is of no interest to me (nothing personal Peter!).

Regards, Dave. 


RE: [RFC] Proposed split of -interfaces list ...

From
"Oscar Serrano"
Date:

> -----Mensaje original-----
> De: pgsql-interfaces-owner@postgresql.org
> [mailto:pgsql-interfaces-owner@postgresql.org]En nombre de Dave Page
> Enviado el: jueves, 18 de enero de 2001 9:06
> Para: 'The Hermit Hacker'; pgsql-interfaces@postgresql.org
> Asunto: RE: [INTERFACES] [RFC] Proposed split of -interfaces list ...
> 
> 
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: The Hermit Hacker [mailto:scrappy@hub.org]
> > Sent: 18 January 2001 03:26
> > To: pgsql-interfaces@postgresql.org
> > Subject: [INTERFACES] [RFC] Proposed split of -interfaces list ...
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > After some discussions with various members of the project, it was
> > suggested that an RFC be sent out to the -interfaces list asking for
> > opinions ...
> > 
> > Due to the growing volume on these lists, primarily around 
> > the ODBC and
> > JDBC drivers, I'm proposing that a split to this list be 
> > made, so that we
> > have:


I completly agree. I'm not interested in JDBC nor ODBC.
thank you.

Oscar Serrano.



Re: [RFC] Proposed split of -interfaces list ...

From
"Adam Lang"
Date:
I agree also... I don't do C programming, so a huge chunk of the list info I
scan and delete.  Sounds logical.

Adam Lang
Systems Engineer
Rutgers Casualty Insurance Company
http://www.rutgersinsurance.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Oscar Serrano" <oserra@fondos.net>
To: <pgsql-interfaces@postgresql.org>
Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2001 4:02 AM
Subject: RE: [INTERFACES] [RFC] Proposed split of -interfaces list ...


>
>
> > -----Mensaje original-----
> > De: pgsql-interfaces-owner@postgresql.org
> > [mailto:pgsql-interfaces-owner@postgresql.org]En nombre de Dave Page
> > Enviado el: jueves, 18 de enero de 2001 9:06
> > Para: 'The Hermit Hacker'; pgsql-interfaces@postgresql.org
> > Asunto: RE: [INTERFACES] [RFC] Proposed split of -interfaces list ...
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: The Hermit Hacker [mailto:scrappy@hub.org]
> > > Sent: 18 January 2001 03:26
> > > To: pgsql-interfaces@postgresql.org
> > > Subject: [INTERFACES] [RFC] Proposed split of -interfaces list ...
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > After some discussions with various members of the project, it was
> > > suggested that an RFC be sent out to the -interfaces list asking for
> > > opinions ...
> > >
> > > Due to the growing volume on these lists, primarily around
> > > the ODBC and
> > > JDBC drivers, I'm proposing that a split to this list be
> > > made, so that we
> > > have:
>
>
> I completly agree. I'm not interested in JDBC nor ODBC.
> thank you.
>
> Oscar Serrano.



Re: [RFC] Proposed split of -interfaces list ...

From
The Hermit Hacker
Date:
okay, so far, its all been positive feedback on this, so I'm going to go
ahead with it ... with one slight change ...

when we did the php list, I did it as:

pgsql-php@postgresql.org -and- comp.databases.postgresql.interfaces.php

that way, for email purposes, the address was shorter, less to type in ...

I'd like to do the same with the jdbc and odbc lists, unless anyone has an
objection to typing 11 characters less in an email address? :)

On Thu, 18 Jan 2001, Adam Lang wrote:

> I agree also... I don't do C programming, so a huge chunk of the list info I
> scan and delete.  Sounds logical.
>
> Adam Lang
> Systems Engineer
> Rutgers Casualty Insurance Company
> http://www.rutgersinsurance.com
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Oscar Serrano" <oserra@fondos.net>
> To: <pgsql-interfaces@postgresql.org>
> Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2001 4:02 AM
> Subject: RE: [INTERFACES] [RFC] Proposed split of -interfaces list ...
>
>
> >
> >
> > > -----Mensaje original-----
> > > De: pgsql-interfaces-owner@postgresql.org
> > > [mailto:pgsql-interfaces-owner@postgresql.org]En nombre de Dave Page
> > > Enviado el: jueves, 18 de enero de 2001 9:06
> > > Para: 'The Hermit Hacker'; pgsql-interfaces@postgresql.org
> > > Asunto: RE: [INTERFACES] [RFC] Proposed split of -interfaces list ...
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: The Hermit Hacker [mailto:scrappy@hub.org]
> > > > Sent: 18 January 2001 03:26
> > > > To: pgsql-interfaces@postgresql.org
> > > > Subject: [INTERFACES] [RFC] Proposed split of -interfaces list ...
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > After some discussions with various members of the project, it was
> > > > suggested that an RFC be sent out to the -interfaces list asking for
> > > > opinions ...
> > > >
> > > > Due to the growing volume on these lists, primarily around
> > > > the ODBC and
> > > > JDBC drivers, I'm proposing that a split to this list be
> > > > made, so that we
> > > > have:
> >
> >
> > I completly agree. I'm not interested in JDBC nor ODBC.
> > thank you.
> >
> > Oscar Serrano.
>
>

Marc G. Fournier                   ICQ#7615664               IRC Nick: Scrappy
Systems Administrator @ hub.org
primary: scrappy@hub.org           secondary: scrappy@{freebsd|postgresql}.org



Re: [RFC] Proposed split of -interfaces list ...

From
"Adam Lang"
Date:
Who actually types their email addresses?  Use an address book. ;)

psql-odbc should be fine though.


Adam Lang
Systems Engineer
Rutgers Casualty Insurance Company
http://www.rutgersinsurance.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "The Hermit Hacker" <scrappy@hub.org>
To: "Adam Lang" <aalang@rutgersinsurance.com>
Cc: <pgsql-interfaces@postgresql.org>
Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2001 8:53 AM
Subject: Re: [INTERFACES] [RFC] Proposed split of -interfaces list ...


>
> okay, so far, its all been positive feedback on this, so I'm going to go
> ahead with it ... with one slight change ...
>
> when we did the php list, I did it as:
>
> pgsql-php@postgresql.org -and- comp.databases.postgresql.interfaces.php
>
> that way, for email purposes, the address was shorter, less to type in ...
>
> I'd like to do the same with the jdbc and odbc lists, unless anyone has an
> objection to typing 11 characters less in an email address? :)
>
> On Thu, 18 Jan 2001, Adam Lang wrote:
>
> > I agree also... I don't do C programming, so a huge chunk of the list
info I
> > scan and delete.  Sounds logical.
> >
> > Adam Lang
> > Systems Engineer
> > Rutgers Casualty Insurance Company
> > http://www.rutgersinsurance.com
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Oscar Serrano" <oserra@fondos.net>
> > To: <pgsql-interfaces@postgresql.org>
> > Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2001 4:02 AM
> > Subject: RE: [INTERFACES] [RFC] Proposed split of -interfaces list ...
> >
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > > -----Mensaje original-----
> > > > De: pgsql-interfaces-owner@postgresql.org
> > > > [mailto:pgsql-interfaces-owner@postgresql.org]En nombre de Dave Page
> > > > Enviado el: jueves, 18 de enero de 2001 9:06
> > > > Para: 'The Hermit Hacker'; pgsql-interfaces@postgresql.org
> > > > Asunto: RE: [INTERFACES] [RFC] Proposed split of -interfaces list
...
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: The Hermit Hacker [mailto:scrappy@hub.org]
> > > > > Sent: 18 January 2001 03:26
> > > > > To: pgsql-interfaces@postgresql.org
> > > > > Subject: [INTERFACES] [RFC] Proposed split of -interfaces list ...
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > After some discussions with various members of the project, it was
> > > > > suggested that an RFC be sent out to the -interfaces list asking
for
> > > > > opinions ...
> > > > >
> > > > > Due to the growing volume on these lists, primarily around
> > > > > the ODBC and
> > > > > JDBC drivers, I'm proposing that a split to this list be
> > > > > made, so that we
> > > > > have:
> > >
> > >
> > > I completly agree. I'm not interested in JDBC nor ODBC.
> > > thank you.
> > >
> > > Oscar Serrano.
> >
> >
>
> Marc G. Fournier                   ICQ#7615664               IRC Nick:
Scrappy
> Systems Administrator @ hub.org
> primary: scrappy@hub.org           secondary:
scrappy@{freebsd|postgresql}.org



Re: [RFC] Proposed split of -interfaces list ...

From
Ken Wright
Date:
I agree with the proposed split described below. It does simplify the weeding
process. As for changing -interfaces to -interfaces-misc, it makes little
difference to me. Re-subscribing is not a big deal.

>     pgsql-interfaces-odbc@postgresql.org
>         - ODBC related discussions
> 
>     pgsql-interfaces-jdbc@postgresql.org
>         - JDBC related discussions
> 
>     pgsql-interfaces@postgresql.org
>         - libpq, libpq++, python, tcl


Re: [RFC] Proposed split of -interfaces list ...

From
Cedar Cox
Date:

On Thu, 18 Jan 2001, The Hermit Hacker wrote:

> 
> okay, so far, its all been positive feedback on this, so I'm going to go
> ahead with it ... with one slight change ...
> 
> when we did the php list, I did it as:
> 
> pgsql-php@postgresql.org -and- comp.databases.postgresql.interfaces.php
> 
> that way, for email purposes, the address was shorter, less to type in ...
> 
> I'd like to do the same with the jdbc and odbc lists, unless anyone has an
> objection to typing 11 characters less in an email address? :)
> 
> On Thu, 18 Jan 2001, Adam Lang wrote:
> 
> > I agree also... I don't do C programming, so a huge chunk of the list info I
> > scan and delete.  Sounds logical.

Sounds good to me.. and if for some reason someone doesn't want the split,
they can simply subscribe to all three lists, which isn't a big deal.  
With that done, they still get everything, just with different addresses,
which would be good for filtering/sorting.

..and dropping '-interfaces' sounds fine, but really doesn't make any
difference to me.

-Cedar