Thread: UNIQUE capability to hash indexes
Hello hackers ,
I wanted to know if anyone is working on these projects from todo list.
1.Add UNIQUE capability to hash indexes
2.Allow multi-column hash indexes
I couldn't find any discussion about these projects.
Thanks,
Shubham Barai
Shubham Barai <shubhambaraiss@gmail.com> writes: > I wanted to know if anyone is working on these projects from todo list. > 1.Add UNIQUE capability to hash indexes > 2.Allow multi-column hash indexes Not that I've heard of. It's very hard to muster any enthusiasm for improving hash indexes unless their lack of WAL-logging is fixed first. regards, tom lane
On 2/4/16 1:12 PM, Tom Lane wrote: > Shubham Barai <shubhambaraiss@gmail.com> writes: >> I wanted to know if anyone is working on these projects from todo list. >> 1.Add UNIQUE capability to hash indexes >> 2.Allow multi-column hash indexes > > Not that I've heard of. It's very hard to muster any enthusiasm for > improving hash indexes unless their lack of WAL-logging is fixed first. +1. I currently steer customers away from hash indexes and have never used them for any project myself. They are simply not safe. -- -David david@pgmasters.net
Tom Lane wrote: > Shubham Barai <shubhambaraiss@gmail.com> writes: > > I wanted to know if anyone is working on these projects from todo list. > > 1.Add UNIQUE capability to hash indexes > > 2.Allow multi-column hash indexes > > Not that I've heard of. It's very hard to muster any enthusiasm for > improving hash indexes unless their lack of WAL-logging is fixed first. This is really strange though. Surely adding WAL-logging is not an enormous task anymore ... I mean, we're undertaking far larger efforts now, the WAL logging code is simpler than before, and we even have a tool (ok, gotta streamline that one a little bit) to verify that the results are correct. -- Álvaro Herrera http://www.2ndQuadrant.com/ PostgreSQL Development, 24x7 Support, Remote DBA, Training & Services
Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@2ndquadrant.com> writes: > Tom Lane wrote: >> Not that I've heard of. It's very hard to muster any enthusiasm for >> improving hash indexes unless their lack of WAL-logging is fixed first. > This is really strange though. Surely adding WAL-logging is not an > enormous task anymore ... I mean, we're undertaking far larger efforts > now, the WAL logging code is simpler than before, and we even have a > tool (ok, gotta streamline that one a little bit) to verify that the > results are correct. ISTR that we discussed this previously and ran into some stumbling block or other that made it less-than-trivial. Don't recall what though. regards, tom lane
On 02/04/2016 11:34 PM, Tom Lane wrote: > Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@2ndquadrant.com> writes: >> This is really strange though. Surely adding WAL-logging is not an >> enormous task anymore ... I mean, we're undertaking far larger efforts >> now, the WAL logging code is simpler than before, and we even have a >> tool (ok, gotta streamline that one a little bit) to verify that the >> results are correct. > > ISTR that we discussed this previously and ran into some stumbling block > or other that made it less-than-trivial. Don't recall what though. The last discussion I can recall was Robert's ideas on how to solve the splitting of buckets. http://www.postgresql.org/message-id/CA+TgmoZyMoJSrFxHXQ06G8jhjXQcsKvDiHB_8z_7nc7hj7iHYQ@mail.gmail.com Andreas
Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us> wrote: > Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@2ndquadrant.com> writes: > > Tom Lane wrote: > >> Not that I've heard of. It's very hard to muster any enthusiasm for > >> improving hash indexes unless their lack of WAL-logging is fixed first. > > > This is really strange though. Surely adding WAL-logging is not an > > enormous task anymore ... I mean, we're undertaking far larger efforts > > now, the WAL logging code is simpler than before, and we even have a > > tool (ok, gotta streamline that one a little bit) to verify that the > > results are correct. > > ISTR that we discussed this previously and ran into some stumbling block > or other that made it less-than-trivial. Don't recall what though. Concurrency of bucket split is the issue. It makes sense to fix the problem before anyone tries to implement WAL. Otherwise WAL will have to be reworked from scratch someday. I had some ideas which I even published: http://www.postgresql.org/message-id/32423.1427413442@localhost Then I spent some more time on it sometime in October and improved the concept a bit (and also found bugs in the version I had published, so please don't spend much time looking at it). I also wrote a function to check if the consistent (to be possibly added to pageinspect extension). I even wrote a function that inserts tuples only into index, not into heap - I suppose that should make comparison of index performance with and without the patch simpler. Now, besides making the patch easier to read, I need to test it thoroughly. The lack of time is one problem, but I need to admit that it's a personal issue too :-) So far I think I have a good idea, but now I should try hard to break it. Now that I see the problem mentioned again, I feel myself kind of "ignited". I expect to have some leisure time at the end of February, so I'll test the patch and post my results early in March. -- Antonin Houska Cybertec Schönig & Schönig GmbH Gröhrmühlgasse 26 A-2700 Wiener Neustadt Web: http://www.postgresql-support.de, http://www.cybertec.at