Thread: Cleaner build output when not much has changed

Gurjeet Singh <gurjeet@singh.im> writes:
> I was looking for ways to reduce the noise in Postgres make output,
> specifically, I wanted to eliminate the "Nothing to be done for `all' "
> messages, since they don't add much value, and just ad to the clutter.

Why don't you just use "make -s" if you don't want to see that?
The example output you show is not much less verbose than before.

I'm pretty suspicious of cute changes like this to the makefiles.
They too often have unexpected side-effects.  (I'm still pissed off
about having to manually remove objfiles.txt to get it to rebuild a .o
file, for instance.)
        regards, tom lane

Tom Lane wrote:

> I'm pretty suspicious of cute changes like this to the makefiles.
> They too often have unexpected side-effects.  (I'm still pissed off
> about having to manually remove objfiles.txt to get it to rebuild a .o
> file, for instance.)

Yeah, I've been bitten by that as well and I don't like it either.

A patch to use non-recursive make to construct the backend would be very
much appreciated.  We've talked about it at least two times, but no one
seems interested enough to put in the effort.

FWIW I'm also annoyed by the current make noise, but I don't support the
proposed patch.

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On 11/26/13, 1:36 PM, Alvaro Herrera wrote:
> A patch to use non-recursive make to construct the backend would be very
> much appreciated.  We've talked about it at least two times, but no one
> seems interested enough to put in the effort.

References?

Peter Eisentraut wrote:
> On 11/26/13, 1:36 PM, Alvaro Herrera wrote:
> > A patch to use non-recursive make to construct the backend would be very
> > much appreciated.  We've talked about it at least two times, but no one
> > seems interested enough to put in the effort.
> 
> References?

What, you want me to dig up your own old threads?  Hopefully the search
is pretty awesome:

http://www.postgresql.org/message-id/Pine.LNX.4.21.0007021307110.351-100000@localhost.localdomain
http://www.postgresql.org/message-id/1299621866.19938.5.camel@vanquo.pezone.net

:-)

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Gurjeet Singh wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 12:37 PM, Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us> wrote:
> 
> > Gurjeet Singh <gurjeet@singh.im> writes:
> > > I was looking for ways to reduce the noise in Postgres make output,
> > > specifically, I wanted to eliminate the "Nothing to be done for `all' "
> > > messages, since they don't add much value, and just ad to the clutter.
> >
> > Why don't you just use "make -s" if you don't want to see that?
> > The example output you show is not much less verbose than before.
> 
> I have a shell function that now adds --no-print-directory to my make
> command. This patch combined with that switch makes the output really clean
> (at least from my perspective). Since the use of a command-line switch can
> be easily left to personal choice, I am not proposing to add that or its
> makefile-equivalent. But modifying the makefiles to suppress noise is not
> that everyone can be expected to do, and do it right.

FWIW you can add a src/Makefile.custom file with this:

all:@true

and it will get rid of most noise.

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