Thread: Is the attribute options cache actually worth anything?

Is the attribute options cache actually worth anything?

From
Tom Lane
Date:
So while poking at a recent example from Marc Cousin (hundreds of tables
each with 1000 attributes) I observed that a simple ANALYZE would bloat
the backend process to the tune of several hundred megabytes.  I think
there is a leak in CacheMemoryContext, but haven't tracked it down yet.
But I also noticed that tens of megabytes were disappearing into "Attopt
cache", and after reading the code to see what the heck that was, I am
wondering what the justification for having it is at all.  In the
presumably normal case where the attribute hasn't got options, all it's
saving us is a syscache access, which is probably not noticeably more
expensive than the hash lookup.  In the case where there is an option,
it's saving us an attribute_reloptions() call, but it's not apparent
to me that that's so expensive as to justify putting a cache in front
of it, especially not if we're going to do a palloc cycle anyway.

Did anybody do any performance measurements to demonstrate that this
code has a reason to live?  Because if I don't see some, I'm going
to rip it out.
        regards, tom lane


Re: Is the attribute options cache actually worth anything?

From
Robert Haas
Date:
On Tue, Mar 1, 2011 at 1:15 PM, Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us> wrote:
> Did anybody do any performance measurements to demonstrate that this
> code has a reason to live?  Because if I don't see some, I'm going
> to rip it out.

No, I have to admit I didn't do that.  Might be worth doing some
before you commit the rip-out, though.

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Re: Is the attribute options cache actually worth anything?

From
Bruce Momjian
Date:
Tom Lane wrote:
> So while poking at a recent example from Marc Cousin (hundreds of tables
> each with 1000 attributes) I observed that a simple ANALYZE would bloat
> the backend process to the tune of several hundred megabytes.  I think
> there is a leak in CacheMemoryContext, but haven't tracked it down yet.
> But I also noticed that tens of megabytes were disappearing into "Attopt
> cache", and after reading the code to see what the heck that was, I am
> wondering what the justification for having it is at all.  In the
> presumably normal case where the attribute hasn't got options, all it's
> saving us is a syscache access, which is probably not noticeably more
> expensive than the hash lookup.  In the case where there is an option,
> it's saving us an attribute_reloptions() call, but it's not apparent
> to me that that's so expensive as to justify putting a cache in front
> of it, especially not if we're going to do a palloc cycle anyway.
> 
> Did anybody do any performance measurements to demonstrate that this
> code has a reason to live?  Because if I don't see some, I'm going
> to rip it out.

Did we decide to keep the cache in attoptcache.c?  Is this a TODO?

--  Bruce Momjian  <bruce@momjian.us>        http://momjian.us EnterpriseDB
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Re: Is the attribute options cache actually worth anything?

From
Tom Lane
Date:
Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us> writes:
> Tom Lane wrote:
>> Did anybody do any performance measurements to demonstrate that this
>> code has a reason to live?  Because if I don't see some, I'm going
>> to rip it out.

> Did we decide to keep the cache in attoptcache.c?  Is this a TODO?

It's still a TODO, I think --- the code's still there, and nobody's done
any performance measurements either way.
        regards, tom lane