Thread: Re: [pgsql-patches] pg_dump pretty_print

Re: [pgsql-patches] pg_dump pretty_print

From
"Greg Sabino Mullane"
Date:
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Peter Eisentraut replied:

> The harm here is that under undefined circumstances a dump file
> will not be a proper and robust representation of the original
> database, which would add significant confusion and potential for error.

What "undefined circumstances" are we talking here? If there is a chance
that pg_get_viewdef and company do not output a version that can be
read again by the database because we simply changed the whitespace, that
sounds like a serious bug to be fixed, not a reason to reject this
optional flag.

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Re: [pgsql-patches] pg_dump pretty_print

From
Tom Lane
Date:
"Greg Sabino Mullane" <greg@turnstep.com> writes:
> Peter Eisentraut replied:
>> The harm here is that under undefined circumstances a dump file
>> will not be a proper and robust representation of the original
>> database, which would add significant confusion and potential for error.

> What "undefined circumstances" are we talking here? If there is a chance
> that pg_get_viewdef and company do not output a version that can be
> read again by the database because we simply changed the whitespace, that
> sounds like a serious bug to be fixed, not a reason to reject this
> optional flag.

The original definition of the prettyprint flag was that it'd produce a
version that was nice to look at but not guaranteed to parse back
exactly the same; in particular it might omit parentheses that perhaps
were really needed to ensure the same parsing.  (I think there might be
some other issues too ... but whitespace is NOT one of them.)  It's
possible that the current prettyprint code is smart enough to never make
such an error --- and then again it's possible that it isn't.  Like
Peter, I've not got much confidence in that code, and don't want to
trust pg_dump's correctness to it.

            regards, tom lane

Re: [pgsql-patches] pg_dump pretty_print

From
"Greg Sabino Mullane"
Date:
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Tom Lane wrote:
> The original definition of the prettyprint flag was that it'd produce a
> version that was nice to look at but not guaranteed to parse back
> exactly the same; in particular it might omit parentheses that perhaps
> were really needed to ensure the same parsing.  (I think there might be
> some other issues too ... but whitespace is NOT one of them.)  It's
> possible that the current prettyprint code is smart enough to never make
> such an error --- and then again it's possible that it isn't.  Like
> Peter, I've not got much confidence in that code, and don't want to
> trust pg_dump's correctness to it.

Can we perhaps add to the TODO to get the pretty print functions audited
and tested out? I'm sure people are already using the pretty print option
today via psql so it seems like this should be a high priority. Plus of
course I'd like to see it added to pg_dump once Peter, yourself, and
others have more confidence in it working as one would expect.

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Greg Sabino Mullane greg@turnstep.com
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