Thread: Re: [PATCHES] plpgsql, return can contains any expression

Re: [PATCHES] plpgsql, return can contains any expression

From
Tom Lane
Date:
"Pavel Stehule" <pavel.stehule@hotmail.com> writes:
> This patch allows using any row expression in return statement and does
> transformation from untyped row to composite types if it's necessary.

This patch doesn't seem to cope with cases where the supplied tuple has
the wrong number of columns, and it doesn't look like it's being careful
about dropped columns either.  Also, that's a mighty bizarre-looking
choice of cache memory context in coerce_to_tuple ... but then again,
why are you bothering with a cache at all for temporary arrays?

            regards, tom lane

Re: [PATCHES] plpgsql, return can contains any expression

From
"Pavel Stehule"
Date:
>
>"Pavel Stehule" <pavel.stehule@hotmail.com> writes:
> > This patch allows using any row expression in return statement and does
> > transformation from untyped row to composite types if it's necessary.
>
>This patch doesn't seem to cope with cases where the supplied tuple has
>the wrong number of columns, and it doesn't look like it's being careful
>about dropped columns either.  Also, that's a mighty bizarre-looking
>choice of cache memory context in coerce_to_tuple ... but then again,
>why are you bothering with a cache at all for temporary arrays?

I am sorry, Tom. But I don't understand. I can check number of columns,
ofcourse and I'll do it. What cache for temporary arrays do you mean?

Best regards
Pavel Stehule

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Re: [PATCHES] plpgsql, return can contains any expression

From
Tom Lane
Date:
"Pavel Stehule" <pavel.stehule@hotmail.com> writes:
>> This patch doesn't seem to cope with cases where the supplied tuple has
>> the wrong number of columns, and it doesn't look like it's being careful
>> about dropped columns either.  Also, that's a mighty bizarre-looking
>> choice of cache memory context in coerce_to_tuple ... but then again,
>> why are you bothering with a cache at all for temporary arrays?

> I am sorry, Tom. But I don't understand. I can check number of columns,
> ofcourse and I'll do it. What cache for temporary arrays do you mean?

I thought that making coerce_to_tuple depend on estate->err_func was
pretty bizarre, and that there was no need for any "cache" at all for
arrays that need only live as long as the function runs.  All you are
saving here is a palloc/pfree cycle, which is not worth the obscurantism
and risk of bugs (are you sure natts can never change?).

BTW, if you want this patch to make it into 8.2, it needs to be fixed
and resubmitted *very* soon.

            regards, tom lane

Re: [PATCHES] plpgsql, return can contains any expression

From
"Pavel Stehule"
Date:

>
>"Pavel Stehule" <pavel.stehule@hotmail.com> writes:
> >> This patch doesn't seem to cope with cases where the supplied tuple has
> >> the wrong number of columns, and it doesn't look like it's being
>careful
> >> about dropped columns either.  Also, that's a mighty bizarre-looking
> >> choice of cache memory context in coerce_to_tuple ... but then again,
> >> why are you bothering with a cache at all for temporary arrays?
>
> > I am sorry, Tom. But I don't understand. I can check number of columns,
> > ofcourse and I'll do it. What cache for temporary arrays do you mean?
>
>I thought that making coerce_to_tuple depend on estate->err_func was
>pretty bizarre, and that there was no need for any "cache" at all for
>arrays that need only live as long as the function runs.  All you are
>saving here is a palloc/pfree cycle, which is not worth the obscurantism
>and risk of bugs (are you sure natts can never change?).

No, cache there is ugly. But I don't have idea about more efective
implementation of it :-(. First version of this patch was more clean. and
little bit slow. This cache save 10%.

>
>BTW, if you want this patch to make it into 8.2, it needs to be fixed
>and resubmitted *very* soon.

I understand, but I am not able work on it in next four days. And I need
help with it from Neil. It will be for 8.3.

Thank you
Pavel

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Re: [PATCHES] plpgsql, return can contains any

From
Bruce Momjian
Date:
This has been saved for the 8.3 release:

    http://momjian.postgresql.org/cgi-bin/pgpatches_hold

---------------------------------------------------------------------------


Pavel Stehule wrote:
>
>
> >
> >"Pavel Stehule" <pavel.stehule@hotmail.com> writes:
> > >> This patch doesn't seem to cope with cases where the supplied tuple has
> > >> the wrong number of columns, and it doesn't look like it's being
> >careful
> > >> about dropped columns either.  Also, that's a mighty bizarre-looking
> > >> choice of cache memory context in coerce_to_tuple ... but then again,
> > >> why are you bothering with a cache at all for temporary arrays?
> >
> > > I am sorry, Tom. But I don't understand. I can check number of columns,
> > > ofcourse and I'll do it. What cache for temporary arrays do you mean?
> >
> >I thought that making coerce_to_tuple depend on estate->err_func was
> >pretty bizarre, and that there was no need for any "cache" at all for
> >arrays that need only live as long as the function runs.  All you are
> >saving here is a palloc/pfree cycle, which is not worth the obscurantism
> >and risk of bugs (are you sure natts can never change?).
>
> No, cache there is ugly. But I don't have idea about more efective
> implementation of it :-(. First version of this patch was more clean. and
> little bit slow. This cache save 10%.
>
> >
> >BTW, if you want this patch to make it into 8.2, it needs to be fixed
> >and resubmitted *very* soon.
>
> I understand, but I am not able work on it in next four days. And I need
> help with it from Neil. It will be for 8.3.
>
> Thank you
> Pavel
>
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Re: [PATCHES] plpgsql, return can contains any expression

From
Bruce Momjian
Date:
OK, where are we on this patch?

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Pavel Stehule wrote:
>
>
> >
> >"Pavel Stehule" <pavel.stehule@hotmail.com> writes:
> > >> This patch doesn't seem to cope with cases where the supplied tuple has
> > >> the wrong number of columns, and it doesn't look like it's being
> >careful
> > >> about dropped columns either.  Also, that's a mighty bizarre-looking
> > >> choice of cache memory context in coerce_to_tuple ... but then again,
> > >> why are you bothering with a cache at all for temporary arrays?
> >
> > > I am sorry, Tom. But I don't understand. I can check number of columns,
> > > ofcourse and I'll do it. What cache for temporary arrays do you mean?
> >
> >I thought that making coerce_to_tuple depend on estate->err_func was
> >pretty bizarre, and that there was no need for any "cache" at all for
> >arrays that need only live as long as the function runs.  All you are
> >saving here is a palloc/pfree cycle, which is not worth the obscurantism
> >and risk of bugs (are you sure natts can never change?).
>
> No, cache there is ugly. But I don't have idea about more efective
> implementation of it :-(. First version of this patch was more clean. and
> little bit slow. This cache save 10%.
>
> >
> >BTW, if you want this patch to make it into 8.2, it needs to be fixed
> >and resubmitted *very* soon.
>
> I understand, but I am not able work on it in next four days. And I need
> help with it from Neil. It will be for 8.3.
>
> Thank you
> Pavel
>
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Re: [PATCHES] plpgsql, return can contains any expression

From
"Pavel Stehule"
Date:
>
>OK, where are we on this patch?

without changes. This task have to do anybody who better know PostgreSQL
cache system than me.

Regards
Pavel
>
>---------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>Pavel Stehule wrote:
> >
> >
> > >
> > >"Pavel Stehule" <pavel.stehule@hotmail.com> writes:
> > > >> This patch doesn't seem to cope with cases where the supplied tuple
>has
> > > >> the wrong number of columns, and it doesn't look like it's being
> > >careful
> > > >> about dropped columns either.  Also, that's a mighty
>bizarre-looking
> > > >> choice of cache memory context in coerce_to_tuple ... but then
>again,
> > > >> why are you bothering with a cache at all for temporary arrays?
> > >
> > > > I am sorry, Tom. But I don't understand. I can check number of
>columns,
> > > > ofcourse and I'll do it. What cache for temporary arrays do you
>mean?
> > >
> > >I thought that making coerce_to_tuple depend on estate->err_func was
> > >pretty bizarre, and that there was no need for any "cache" at all for
> > >arrays that need only live as long as the function runs.  All you are
> > >saving here is a palloc/pfree cycle, which is not worth the
>obscurantism
> > >and risk of bugs (are you sure natts can never change?).
> >
> > No, cache there is ugly. But I don't have idea about more efective
> > implementation of it :-(. First version of this patch was more clean.
>and
> > little bit slow. This cache save 10%.
> >
> > >
> > >BTW, if you want this patch to make it into 8.2, it needs to be fixed
> > >and resubmitted *very* soon.
> >
> > I understand, but I am not able work on it in next four days. And I need
> > help with it from Neil. It will be for 8.3.
> >
> > Thank you
> > Pavel
> >
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Re: [PATCHES] plpgsql, return can contains any expression

From
Alvaro Herrera
Date:
Pavel Stehule wrote:

> >OK, where are we on this patch?
>
> without changes. This task have to do anybody who better know PostgreSQL
> cache system than me.

How about you submit a version without any caching, but which works
correctly; and we worry about optimizations later?

> >---------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> >Pavel Stehule wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> >
> >> >"Pavel Stehule" <pavel.stehule@hotmail.com> writes:
> >> > >> This patch doesn't seem to cope with cases where the supplied tuple
> >has
> >> > >> the wrong number of columns, and it doesn't look like it's being
> >> >careful
> >> > >> about dropped columns either.  Also, that's a mighty
> >bizarre-looking
> >> > >> choice of cache memory context in coerce_to_tuple ... but then
> >again,
> >> > >> why are you bothering with a cache at all for temporary arrays?
> >> >
> >> > > I am sorry, Tom. But I don't understand. I can check number of
> >columns,
> >> > > ofcourse and I'll do it. What cache for temporary arrays do you
> >mean?
> >> >
> >> >I thought that making coerce_to_tuple depend on estate->err_func was
> >> >pretty bizarre, and that there was no need for any "cache" at all for
> >> >arrays that need only live as long as the function runs.  All you are
> >> >saving here is a palloc/pfree cycle, which is not worth the
> >obscurantism
> >> >and risk of bugs (are you sure natts can never change?).
> >>
> >> No, cache there is ugly. But I don't have idea about more efective
> >> implementation of it :-(. First version of this patch was more clean.
> >and
> >> little bit slow. This cache save 10%.
> >>
> >> >
> >> >BTW, if you want this patch to make it into 8.2, it needs to be fixed
> >> >and resubmitted *very* soon.
> >>
> >> I understand, but I am not able work on it in next four days. And I need
> >> help with it from Neil. It will be for 8.3.


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Re: [PATCHES] plpgsql, return can contains any expression

From
"Pavel Stehule"
Date:
>Pavel Stehule wrote:
>
> > >OK, where are we on this patch?
> >
> > without changes. This task have to do anybody who better know PostgreSQL
> > cache system than me.
>
>How about you submit a version without any caching, but which works
>correctly; and we worry about optimizations later?
>

I can update and send simple version.

Regards
Pavel Stehule

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