Thread: Re: [pgsql-advocacy] Increased company involvement
> -----Original Message----- > From: pgsql-hackers-owner@postgresql.org > [mailto:pgsql-hackers-owner@postgresql.org] On Behalf Of Marc > G. Fournier > Sent: 05 May 2005 21:08 > To: Robert Treat > Cc: Tom Lane; Josh Berkus; pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org > Subject: Re: [pgsql-advocacy] [HACKERS] Increased company involvement > > > in fact, with how it looks like we'll end up extending it > over time, there > will also be a: > > jdbc-8.1.0.tar.gz > odbc-8.1.0.tar.gz > libpqxx-8.1.0.tar.gz I don't believe that's a good idea. Speaking from an ODBC pov, not only is the primary distribution for Windows, but the whole project is version independent of PostgreSQL and follows it's own release cycles entirely. Commenting more broadly on the whole thread, I think that more tarballs is a bad thing. I already get emails (both to webmaster and privately) from people not understanding what to download - more files will only make that worse. Regards, Dave.
On Thu, 5 May 2005, Dave Page wrote:
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>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: pgsql-hackers-owner@postgresql.org
>> [mailto:pgsql-hackers-owner@postgresql.org] On Behalf Of Marc
>> G. Fournier
>> Sent: 05 May 2005 21:08
>> To: Robert Treat
>> Cc: Tom Lane; Josh Berkus; pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org
>> Subject: Re: [pgsql-advocacy] [HACKERS] Increased company involvement
>>
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>> in fact, with how it looks like we'll end up extending it
>> over time, there
>> will also be a:
>>
>> jdbc-8.1.0.tar.gz
>> odbc-8.1.0.tar.gz
>> libpqxx-8.1.0.tar.gz
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> I don't believe that's a good idea. Speaking from an ODBC pov, not only
> is the primary distribution for Windows, but the whole project is
> version independent of PostgreSQL and follows it's own release cycles
> entirely.
odbc was just an example ... I'm not looking to include anything
arbitrarily, as there will have to be some coordination done with the
individual developers from at tagging perspective anyway ...
> Commenting more broadly on the whole thread, I think that more tarballs
> is a bad thing. I already get emails (both to webmaster and privately)
> from people not understanding what to download - more files will only
> make that worse.
Going this route will eliminate alot of the confusion, and probably result
in us not needing the seperate postgresql-<split>-<release>.tar.gz files
themselves, since there won't be anything left to put into the side files
...
postgresql-opt would disappear and be replaced by: plperl.tar.gz plpython.tar.gz pltcl.tar.gz
etc
Josh has already proposed next step after PLs being the various contrib
modules, so we'd have a:
dbsize.tar.gz btree_gist.tar.gz etc
The end result wouldn't have enough in the *core* module to warrant a
split-dist anymore, since all of what would be left would be what is
required for a build ...
Plus, also with what Josh has suggested, we'd also end up with a:
postgresql-WTKS.tar.gz (with the kitchen sink) file that contained
everything for those that really wanted to download "it all" ...
So, there would be no confusion for what to download, since it would all
be laid out for you ... you want a server with plperl, you download the
server and the plperl tar file ... you already have a server, but want to
add plpython, you download the plpython tar file ...
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> dbsize.tar.gz > btree_gist.tar.gz > etc > > The end result wouldn't have enough in the *core* module to warrant a > split-dist anymore, since all of what would be left would be what is > required for a build ... I know some of this is symantic but I think it would be better to have: postgresql-WTKS-8.0.2.tar.gz postgresql-core-8.0.2.tar.gz postgresql-plphp postgresql-plperl etc... Sincerely, Joshua D. Drake > ---------------------------(end of broadcast)--------------------------- > TIP 8: explain analyze is your friend
On Thu, 5 May 2005, Joshua D. Drake wrote: > >> dbsize.tar.gz >> btree_gist.tar.gz >> etc >> >> The end result wouldn't have enough in the *core* module to warrant a >> split-dist anymore, since all of what would be left would be what is >> required for a build ... > > I know some of this is symantic but I think it would be better to have: > > postgresql-WTKS-8.0.2.tar.gz > postgresql-core-8.0.2.tar.gz > postgresql-plphp > postgresql-plperl that works too ... but I'd change -core to -server ... the only thing I have against is that the names could get very long: postgresql-fuzzystrmatch-8.0.2.tar.gz the postgresql part just seems redundant ... ---- Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email: scrappy@hub.org Yahoo!: yscrappy ICQ: 7615664
Am Donnerstag, 5. Mai 2005 23:47 schrieb Marc G. Fournier: > have against is that the names could get very long: > > postgresql-fuzzystrmatch-8.0.2.tar.gz > > the postgresql part just seems redundant ... Not once you have downloaded it and don't remember where you got it from. -- Peter Eisentraut http://developer.postgresql.org/~petere/
On Fri, 6 May 2005, Peter Eisentraut wrote: > Am Donnerstag, 5. Mai 2005 23:47 schrieb Marc G. Fournier: >> have against is that the names could get very long: >> >> postgresql-fuzzystrmatch-8.0.2.tar.gz >> >> the postgresql part just seems redundant ... > > Not once you have downloaded it and don't remember where you got it from. Agreed ... not arguing against, just wish there was some 'magical way' that the translation could be down while downloading (I know, there isn't, just wishful thinking on my part) ... ---- Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email: scrappy@hub.org Yahoo!: yscrappy ICQ: 7615664