Thread: pg_hba.conf view from the database?

pg_hba.conf view from the database?

From
Fabien COELHO
Date:
Dear hackers,

I'm still developing some advisor views to give advices about tables,
database settings and so in postgresql.

I'm thinking of allowing advices about incoherent or dangerous "host base
authentification" configurations. I would like to access pg_hba.conf
from within the database. However, I could not find any pg_catalog that
would fit my needs.

- am I missing something? I'm afraid not, but "yes" would be good news;-)

- is it a design principle that this information is not available, or just a lack of time and/or need up to know? would
itmake sense to add such a view?
 

Thanks in advance,

-- 
Fabien Coelho - coelho@cri.ensmp.fr


Re: pg_hba.conf view from the database?

From
Richard Huxton
Date:
On Tuesday 06 April 2004 12:10, Fabien COELHO wrote:
>
> I'm thinking of allowing advices about incoherent or dangerous "host base
> authentification" configurations. I would like to access pg_hba.conf
> from within the database. However, I could not find any pg_catalog that
> would fit my needs.
>
> - am I missing something? I'm afraid not, but "yes" would be good news;-)

Not

> - is it a design principle that this information is not available,
>   or just a lack of time and/or need up to know?
>   would it make sense to add such a view?

I believe the thinking is that you want to check whether someone is allowed to 
connect to the database without having to connect to the database. If someone 
were to make bad connection attempts, they could easily run a denial of 
service against your DB (whether intentionally or just due to an application 
bug).

--  Richard Huxton Archonet Ltd


Re: pg_hba.conf view from the database?

From
Fabien COELHO
Date:
> > - is it a design principle that this information is not available,
> >   or just a lack of time and/or need up to know?
> >   would it make sense to add such a view?
>
> I believe the thinking is that you want to check whether someone is
> allowed to connect to the database without having to connect to the
> database.

This is not the actual usage I have in mind, but this could be a possible
usage for such a view.

-- 
Fabien Coelho - coelho@cri.ensmp.fr


Re: pg_hba.conf view from the database?

From
Robert Treat
Date:
On Tue, 2004-04-06 at 08:23, Richard Huxton wrote:
> On Tuesday 06 April 2004 12:10, Fabien COELHO wrote:
> >
> > I'm thinking of allowing advices about incoherent or dangerous "host base
> > authentification" configurations. I would like to access pg_hba.conf
> > from within the database. However, I could not find any pg_catalog that
> > would fit my needs.
> >
> > - am I missing something? I'm afraid not, but "yes" would be good news;-)
> 
> Not
> 
> > - is it a design principle that this information is not available,
> >   or just a lack of time and/or need up to know?
> >   would it make sense to add such a view?
> 
> I believe the thinking is that you want to check whether someone is allowed to 
> connect to the database without having to connect to the database. If someone 
> were to make bad connection attempts, they could easily run a denial of 
> service against your DB (whether intentionally or just due to an application 
> bug).
> 

I think that's one of the reasons it is implemented in a .conf file
(check archives, it was just discussed again recently) but that doesn't
answer the question of "why isn't the pg_hba.conf viewable from inside
the database" ?  Seems a valid question since we show postgresql.conf
info database side.

Robert Treat
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