Thread: Web site
Hi all, It occurs to me that opening web page on www.postgresql.org, asking the user to select the mirror, is rather unprofessional. I am sure this has been discussed before but I thought I would bring it up again anyway. So, why not just redirect people to one of the mirrors listed? This could be done based on IP (yes it is inaccurate but it is close enough and has the same net effect: pushing people off the main web server) or it could be done by simply redirecting to a random mirror. From a quick look, there is nothing of any real size on the site (excluding developer.postgresql.org, which is not the issue) to warrant people wanting to access a geographically local server anyway. (Unlike the case of FTP, for which the list of mirrors is very useful). Gavin
On Tue, 24 Sep 2002, Gavin Sherry wrote: > Hi all, > > It occurs to me that opening web page on www.postgresql.org, asking the > user to select the mirror, is rather unprofessional. I am sure this has > been discussed before but I thought I would bring it up again anyway. Already being worked on ... > So, why not just redirect people to one of the mirrors listed? This > could be done based on IP (yes it is inaccurate but it is close enough > and has the same net effect: pushing people off the main web server) or > it could be done by simply redirecting to a random mirror. Have tried both in the past with disastrous results ...
> > could be done based on IP (yes it is inaccurate but it is close enough > > and has the same net effect: pushing people off the main web server) or > > it could be done by simply redirecting to a random mirror. > > Have tried both in the past with disastrous results ... What method will be employed instead? Gavin
On Tue, 24 Sep 2002, Gavin Sherry wrote: > Hi all, > > It occurs to me that opening web page on www.postgresql.org, asking the > user to select the mirror, is rather unprofessional. I am sure this has > been discussed before but I thought I would bring it up again anyway. Your point? > So, why not just redirect people to one of the mirrors listed? This could > be done based on IP (yes it is inaccurate but it is close enough and has > the same net effect: pushing people off the main web server) or it could > be done by simply redirecting to a random mirror. Been there, done that, didn't work. Too much of a job to keep track of that many IP blocks too. Vince. -- ========================================================================== Vince Vielhaber -- KA8CSH email: vev@michvhf.com http://www.pop4.net 56K Nationwide Dialup from $16.00/mo atPop4 Networking http://www.camping-usa.com http://www.cloudninegifts.com http://www.meanstreamradio.com http://www.unknown-artists.com ==========================================================================
On Tue, Sep 24, 2002 at 03:59:33AM -0400, Vince Vielhaber wrote: > On Tue, 24 Sep 2002, Gavin Sherry wrote: > > > Hi all, > > > > It occurs to me that opening web page on www.postgresql.org, asking the > > user to select the mirror, is rather unprofessional. I am sure this has > > been discussed before but I thought I would bring it up again anyway. > > Your point? > > > So, why not just redirect people to one of the mirrors listed? This could > > be done based on IP (yes it is inaccurate but it is close enough and has > > the same net effect: pushing people off the main web server) or it could > > be done by simply redirecting to a random mirror. > > Been there, done that, didn't work. Too much of a job to keep track of > that many IP blocks too. I'd suggest setting a cookie, so I only see the 'pick a mirror' the first time. And provide a link to 'pick a different mirror' that resets or ignores the cookie. Ross
On Tue, 24 Sep 2002, Ross J. Reedstrom wrote: > On Tue, Sep 24, 2002 at 03:59:33AM -0400, Vince Vielhaber wrote: > > On Tue, 24 Sep 2002, Gavin Sherry wrote: > > > > > Hi all, > > > > > > It occurs to me that opening web page on www.postgresql.org, asking the > > > user to select the mirror, is rather unprofessional. I am sure this has > > > been discussed before but I thought I would bring it up again anyway. > > > > Your point? > > > > > So, why not just redirect people to one of the mirrors listed? This could > > > be done based on IP (yes it is inaccurate but it is close enough and has > > > the same net effect: pushing people off the main web server) or it could > > > be done by simply redirecting to a random mirror. > > > > Been there, done that, didn't work. Too much of a job to keep track of > > that many IP blocks too. > > > I'd suggest setting a cookie, so I only see the 'pick a mirror' the > first time. And provide a link to 'pick a different mirror' that resets > or ignores the cookie. Or choose the mirror that works best for you and bookmark it. Vince. -- ========================================================================== Vince Vielhaber -- KA8CSH email: vev@michvhf.com http://www.pop4.net 56K Nationwide Dialup from $16.00/mo atPop4 Networking http://www.camping-usa.com http://www.cloudninegifts.com http://www.meanstreamradio.com http://www.unknown-artists.com ==========================================================================
On Tue, Sep 24, 2002 at 11:26:55AM -0400, Vince Vielhaber wrote: > On Tue, 24 Sep 2002, Ross J. Reedstrom wrote: > > > > I'd suggest setting a cookie, so I only see the 'pick a mirror' the > > first time. And provide a link to 'pick a different mirror' that resets > > or ignores the cookie. > > Or choose the mirror that works best for you and bookmark it. Of course, that's what _I_ do, but the dicussion was how to make the frontpage 'user friendly' and 'professional'. Lots of global corps. do the 'pick your geographical region' thing, but mainly for sales reasons, so it must be professional, right? Ross
Gavin Sherry <swm@linuxworld.com.au> writes: > It occurs to me that opening web page on www.postgresql.org, asking the > user to select the mirror, is rather unprofessional. I agree; not only that, it has advertisements on it. What's the justification for that, considering that none of the mirror sites (AFAIK) have ads on them? Cheers, Neil -- Neil Conway <neilc@samurai.com> || PGP Key ID: DB3C29FC
Neil Conway wrote: > Gavin Sherry <swm@linuxworld.com.au> writes: > > It occurs to me that opening web page on www.postgresql.org, asking the > > user to select the mirror, is rather unprofessional. > > I agree; not only that, it has advertisements on it. What's the > justification for that, considering that none of the mirror sites > (AFAIK) have ads on them? I wondered that myself. -- Bruce Momjian | http://candle.pha.pa.us pgman@candle.pha.pa.us | (610) 359-1001+ If your life is a hard drive, | 13 Roberts Road + Christ can be your backup. | Newtown Square, Pennsylvania19073
Ross J. Reedstrom wrote: > On Tue, Sep 24, 2002 at 03:59:33AM -0400, Vince Vielhaber wrote: > > On Tue, 24 Sep 2002, Gavin Sherry wrote: > > > > > Hi all, > > > > > > It occurs to me that opening web page on www.postgresql.org, asking the > > > user to select the mirror, is rather unprofessional. I am sure this has > > > been discussed before but I thought I would bring it up again anyway. > > > > Your point? > > > > > So, why not just redirect people to one of the mirrors listed? This could > > > be done based on IP (yes it is inaccurate but it is close enough and has > > > the same net effect: pushing people off the main web server) or it could > > > be done by simply redirecting to a random mirror. > > > > Been there, done that, didn't work. Too much of a job to keep track of > > that many IP blocks too. > > > I'd suggest setting a cookie, so I only see the 'pick a mirror' the > first time. And provide a link to 'pick a different mirror' that resets > or ignores the cookie. If I had a vote, I would vote +1 for this option. I think it's easy to implement and shouldn't have negative effects on performance. Regards, Michael Paesold
On 24 Sep 2002, Neil Conway wrote: > Gavin Sherry <swm@linuxworld.com.au> writes: > > It occurs to me that opening web page on www.postgresql.org, asking the > > user to select the mirror, is rather unprofessional. > > I agree; not only that, it has advertisements on it. What's the > justification for that, considering that none of the mirror sites > (AFAIK) have ads on them? Actually, that is part of the redesign as well ...
> > > could be done based on IP (yes it is inaccurate but it is close enough > > > and has the same net effect: pushing people off the main web server) or > > > it could be done by simply redirecting to a random mirror. > > > > Have tried both in the past with disastrous results ... > > What method will be employed instead? Anyone thought about using GeoIP and writing a script that'd dump the database into something that could be postgresql usable? Just a thought. -sc -- Sean Chittenden
Hi, >>So, why not just redirect people to one of the mirrors listed? This >>could be done based on IP (yes it is inaccurate but it is close enough >>and has the same net effect: pushing people off the main web server) or >>it could be done by simply redirecting to a random mirror. I think it would be stupid, I am, who wants to decide where to go. If I feel that .co.uk is better than others I'll chose that, and bookmark if I want. (random??? brbrbrbrbr) :) C.
> -----Original Message----- > From: CoL [mailto:col@mportal.hu] > Sent: 24 September 2002 13:23 > To: pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org > Subject: Re: [HACKERS] Web site > > > Hi, > > >>So, why not just redirect people to one of the mirrors listed? This > >>could be done based on IP (yes it is inaccurate but it is > close enough > >>and has the same net effect: pushing people off the main > web server) > >>or it could be done by simply redirecting to a random mirror. > I think it would be stupid, I am, who wants to decide where > to go. If I > feel that .co.uk is better than others I'll chose that, and > bookmark if > I want. > (random??? brbrbrbrbr) :) I think it's safe to say we will *not* be doing this... Regards, Dave.