Thread: Inconsistent Conversion Names

Inconsistent Conversion Names

From
Peter Eisentraut
Date:
I thought you had named the conversion functions after the IANA names.  I
found the following inconsistencies, however:

sjis should be shift_jis
win1250 should be windows_1250 (similarly 866, 1251)
koi8r should be koi8_r

I think we should fix this now.

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Peter Eisentraut   peter_e@gmx.net



Re: Inconsistent Conversion Names

From
Tatsuo Ishii
Date:
> I thought you had named the conversion functions after the IANA names.  I
> found the following inconsistencies, however:
> 
> sjis should be shift_jis

The conversion named "SJIS" is different from IANA's "shift_jis". It
actually matches "Windows-31J" in IANA, which is too ugly to being
emploied as our conversion name, IMO.

> win1250 should be windows_1250 (similarly 866, 1251)

I agree with win1250 -> windows_1250, win1251 -> windows_1251, but do
not agree with renaming win866. There's no windows_866 in IANA. Maybe
that should be "ibm866"?

> koi8r should be koi8_r

Someone said that the conversion table is actually koi8r + koi8u,
being different from IANA's koi8_r. Not sure though.
--
Tatsuo Ishii


Re: Inconsistent Conversion Names

From
Peter Eisentraut
Date:
Tatsuo Ishii writes:

> The conversion named "SJIS" is different from IANA's "shift_jis". It
> actually matches "Windows-31J" in IANA, which is too ugly to being
> emploied as our conversion name, IMO.

OK

> I agree with win1250 -> windows_1250, win1251 -> windows_1251, but do
> not agree with renaming win866. There's no windows_866 in IANA. Maybe
> that should be "ibm866"?

Is it ibm866 or are you wondering yourself?

> Someone said that the conversion table is actually koi8r + koi8u,
> being different from IANA's koi8_r. Not sure though.

I found mention in the archives by Oleg B. that it is in fact koi8_r.

-- 
Peter Eisentraut   peter_e@gmx.net



Re: Inconsistent Conversion Names

From
Oleg Bartunov
Date:
On Thu, 19 Sep 2002, Peter Eisentraut wrote:

> Tatsuo Ishii writes:
>
> > The conversion named "SJIS" is different from IANA's "shift_jis". It
> > actually matches "Windows-31J" in IANA, which is too ugly to being
> > emploied as our conversion name, IMO.
>
> OK
>
> > I agree with win1250 -> windows_1250, win1251 -> windows_1251, but do
> > not agree with renaming win866. There's no windows_866 in IANA. Maybe
> > that should be "ibm866"?
>
> Is it ibm866 or are you wondering yourself?

it's a total mess.  I know CP866, CP-866,IBM866,IBM_866
IANA isn't a standard but a recommendation.
glibc uses name mangling, so KOI8-R -> koi8r

>
> > Someone said that the conversion table is actually koi8r + koi8u,
> > being different from IANA's koi8_r. Not sure though.
>
> I found mention in the archives by Oleg B. that it is in fact koi8_r.
>

on my system (linux) I have ru_RU.KOI8-R locale.

>
Regards,    Oleg
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Re: Inconsistent Conversion Names

From
Peter Eisentraut
Date:
Oleg Bartunov writes:

> > > Someone said that the conversion table is actually koi8r + koi8u,
> > > being different from IANA's koi8_r. Not sure though.
> >
> > I found mention in the archives by Oleg B. that it is in fact koi8_r.
> >
>
> on my system (linux) I have ru_RU.KOI8-R locale.

We're not talking about your system. :-)

Do you know whether PostgreSQL's conversion tables cover koi8-r or koi8-u
or both?  The documentation contains contradicting information about that.
Actually, since we use the officially provided Unicode conversion tables,
we should know what they cover.

-- 
Peter Eisentraut   peter_e@gmx.net