Thread: Permissions on CHECKPOINT

Permissions on CHECKPOINT

From
Peter Eisentraut
Date:
Contrary to what the submitted documentation claims, there is no
permission checking done on the CHECKPOINT command.  Should there be?

Btw., is there any normal usage application of this command?  This relates
to the previous paragraph somewhat.

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Re: Permissions on CHECKPOINT

From
"Oliver Elphick"
Date:
Peter Eisentraut wrote: >Contrary to what the submitted documentation claims, there is no >permission checking done on
theCHECKPOINT command.  Should there be? 
 
Vadim seemed to indicate that he was going to make that restriction.
Perhaps I misunderstood.

If it's too late to make the change for 7.1, the fact should be
documented in a Bug section of the man page.
 >Btw., is there any normal usage application of this command?  This relates >to the previous paragraph somewhat. > >--
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RE: Permissions on CHECKPOINT

From
"Mikheev, Vadim"
Date:
>   >Contrary to what the submitted documentation claims, there is no
>   >permission checking done on the CHECKPOINT command.  
> Should there be?
>   
> Vadim seemed to indicate that he was going to make that restriction.
> Perhaps I misunderstood.

Yes, there should be permission checking - I'll add it later (in 7.1)
if no one else.

Vadim


RE: Permissions on CHECKPOINT

From
Peter Eisentraut
Date:
Mikheev, Vadim writes:

> Yes, there should be permission checking - I'll add it later (in 7.1)
> if no one else.

Should be simple enough.  Is this okay:

Index: utility.c
===================================================================
RCS file: /home/projects/pgsql/cvsroot/pgsql/src/backend/tcop/utility.c,v
retrieving revision 1.105
diff -c -r1.105 utility.c
*** utility.c   2001/01/05 06:34:20     1.105
--- utility.c   2001/01/25 16:40:40
***************
*** 18,23 ****
--- 18,24 ----
 #include "access/heapam.h" #include "catalog/catalog.h"
+ #include "catalog/pg_shadow.h" #include "commands/async.h" #include "commands/cluster.h" #include
"commands/command.h"
***************
*** 851,856 ****
--- 852,859 ----                       {                               set_ps_display(commandTag = "CHECKPOINT");

+                               if (!superuser())
+                                       elog(ERROR, "permission denied");
CreateCheckPoint(false);                      }                       break;
 


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Re: Permissions on CHECKPOINT

From
Tom Lane
Date:
Peter Eisentraut <peter_e@gmx.net> writes:
> Mikheev, Vadim writes:
>> Yes, there should be permission checking - I'll add it later (in 7.1)
>> if no one else.

> Should be simple enough.  Is this okay:

Actually, I think a more interesting question is "should CHECKPOINT
have permission restrictions?  If so, what should they be?"

A quite relevant precedent is that Unix systems (at least the ones
I've used) do not restrict who can call sync().
        regards, tom lane


PQprint

From
KuroiNeko
Date:
Hi all,
Re-posting this  to -hackers. Will PQprint()  remain/disappear/be replaced
in the future?
Thx
Ed


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Re: Permissions on CHECKPOINT

From
"Oliver Elphick"
Date:
Tom Lane wrote: >Peter Eisentraut <peter_e@gmx.net> writes: >> Mikheev, Vadim writes: >>> Yes, there should be
permissionchecking - I'll add it later (in 7.1) >>> if no one else. > >> Should be simple enough.  Is this okay: >
>Actually,I think a more interesting question is "should CHECKPOINT >have permission restrictions?  If so, what should
theybe?" > >A quite relevant precedent is that Unix systems (at least the ones >I've used) do not restrict who can call
sync().

What about DoS attacks?  What would be the effect of someone's setting
off an infinite loop of CHECKPOINTs?

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RE: Permissions on CHECKPOINT

From
"Mikheev, Vadim"
Date:
> > Yes, there should be permission checking - I'll add it 
> > later (in 7.1) if no one else.
> 
> Should be simple enough.  Is this okay:

I think yes - please apply.

Vadim


RE: Permissions on CHECKPOINT

From
"Mikheev, Vadim"
Date:
> Actually, I think a more interesting question is "should CHECKPOINT
> have permission restrictions?  If so, what should they be?"
> 
> A quite relevant precedent is that Unix systems (at least the ones
> I've used) do not restrict who can call sync().

Checkpoints 1. affect entire system, 2. increase log output and
3. it's hard operation. Command itself was added mostly for debug
purposes.

Vadim


Re: Permissions on CHECKPOINT

From
Bruce Momjian
Date:
> Tom Lane wrote:
>   >Peter Eisentraut <peter_e@gmx.net> writes:
>   >> Mikheev, Vadim writes:
>   >>> Yes, there should be permission checking - I'll add it later (in 7.1)
>   >>> if no one else.
>   >
>   >> Should be simple enough.  Is this okay:
>   >
>   >Actually, I think a more interesting question is "should CHECKPOINT
>   >have permission restrictions?  If so, what should they be?"
>   >
>   >A quite relevant precedent is that Unix systems (at least the ones
>   >I've used) do not restrict who can call sync().
> 
> What about DoS attacks?  What would be the effect of someone's setting
> off an infinite loop of CHECKPOINTs?

Don't we have bigger DoS attacks?  Certainly SELECT cash_out(1) is a
much bigger one.

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RE: Permissions on CHECKPOINT

From
"Mikheev, Vadim"
Date:
> > What about DoS attacks?  What would be the effect of 
> > someone's setting off an infinite loop of CHECKPOINTs?
> 
> Don't we have bigger DoS attacks?  Certainly SELECT cash_out(1) is a
> much bigger one.

I've missed point - cash_out(1) is bug that should be fixed.
Any reason to add yet another gun?

Vadim


Re: Permissions on CHECKPOINT

From
Bruce Momjian
Date:
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> > > What about DoS attacks?  What would be the effect of 
> > > someone's setting off an infinite loop of CHECKPOINTs?
> > 
> > Don't we have bigger DoS attacks?  Certainly SELECT cash_out(1) is a
> > much bigger one.
> 
> I've missed point - cash_out(1) is bug that should be fixed.
> Any reason to add yet another gun?

True.  I just thought there were many bigger DoS areas.  Maybe I am
wrong.

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Re: Permissions on CHECKPOINT

From
Tom Lane
Date:
Okay, okay, complaint withdrawn.  Peter, would you commit that
permission check?
        regards, tom lane


Re: PQprint

From
Bruce Momjian
Date:
> 
>  Hi all,
> 
>  Re-posting this  to -hackers. Will PQprint()  remain/disappear/be replaced
> in the future?

No idea.  We are not sure who uses it.

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