Thread: Danish database patent

Danish database patent

From
Hans Schou
Date:
Hi

I hope this is the right list to write to.

A danish company just got a patent which we at SSLUG www.sslug.dk do not
think is a new invention.

I want to get in contact with somebody who can confirm that this patent is
not new and has been in PostgreSQL before the patent was taken.

If we can prove that this patent was not new when requested, we plan to
start a trial against the company or Patent Office to get the patent
redrawn.

It is a bit troublesome to get all the documents. 
You can find a tar-ball here: http://www.sslug.dk/~chlor/targit.tgz
There is four pages which is interesting: http://www.sslug.dk/~chlor/targit/bns01.pdf
http://www.sslug.dk/~chlor/targit/bns31.pdfhttp://www.sslug.dk/~chlor/targit/bns32.pdf
http://www.sslug.dk/~chlor/targit/bns33.pdf

best regards
Patent group, SSLUG, Hans Schou



Re: Danish database patent

From
Hannu Krosing
Date:
Hans Schou wrote:
> 
> Hi
> 
> I hope this is the right list to write to.
> 
> A danish company just got a patent which we at SSLUG www.sslug.dk do not
> think is a new invention.
> 
> I want to get in contact with somebody who can confirm that this patent is
> not new and has been in PostgreSQL before the patent was taken.
> 
> If we can prove that this patent was not new when requested, we plan to
> start a trial against the company or Patent Office to get the patent
> redrawn.
> 
> It is a bit troublesome to get all the documents.
> You can find a tar-ball here:
>   http://www.sslug.dk/~chlor/targit.tgz
> There is four pages which is interesting:
>   http://www.sslug.dk/~chlor/targit/bns01.pdf
>   http://www.sslug.dk/~chlor/targit/bns31.pdf
>   http://www.sslug.dk/~chlor/targit/bns32.pdf
>   http://www.sslug.dk/~chlor/targit/bns33.pdf
> 

I took only a brief look at them, so i may be in a state of
misunderstanding :)

As I understand it, the patent is about generating/composing queries
_before_ 
submitting them to backend, not about query processing in the backend.

So there is not much hope that postgres has done it before, as 99% of
postgres 
is concerned with backend activities.

-----------
Hannu


Re: Danish database patent

From
Don Baccus
Date:
At 06:35 PM 11/11/00 +0200, Hannu Krosing wrote:

>I took only a brief look at them, so i may be in a state of
>misunderstanding :)
>
>As I understand it, the patent is about generating/composing queries
>_before_ 
>submitting them to backend, not about query processing in the backend.

Yes, it's a query generation technique separate from the database server,
generating and executing SQL queries on a set of tables in order to satisfy
some goal.

Has nothing to do with the RDBMS itself.



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