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AW: Inserting a select statement result into another ta ble

From
Zeugswetter Andreas SB
Date:
> > > He does ask a legitimate question though. If you are 
> going to have a
> > > LIMIT feature (which of course is not pure SQL), there 
> seems no reason
> > > you shouldn't be able to insert the result into a table.
> > 
> > 
> 
> This is an interesting idea.  We don't allow ORDER BY in 
> INSERT INTO ...
> SELECT because it doesn't make any sense, but it does make sense if
> LIMIT is used:

An "order by" also makes sense if you want to create a presorted table
for faster access. I don't see why we should disallow it.

Andreas

Re: AW: Inserting a select statement result into another ta ble

From
Bruce Momjian
Date:
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> 
> > > > He does ask a legitimate question though. If you are 
> > going to have a
> > > > LIMIT feature (which of course is not pure SQL), there 
> > seems no reason
> > > > you shouldn't be able to insert the result into a table.
> > > 
> > > 
> > 
> > This is an interesting idea.  We don't allow ORDER BY in 
> > INSERT INTO ...
> > SELECT because it doesn't make any sense, but it does make sense if
> > LIMIT is used:
> 
> An "order by" also makes sense if you want to create a presorted table
> for faster access. I don't see why we should disallow it.

Like CLUSTER.  I see.

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Re: AW: Inserting a select statement result into another ta ble

From
Stephan Szabo
Date:
With how we do things right now, does it actually gain us anything
to have a presorted table?  Do we know not to do a seek on an index scan
if we're already at the right location in the heap file?  We can't assume
the table is sorted (unless it hasn't been modified), so it's not like we
can sequence scan and stop when the bounds are met.  If we don't do the
seek though, this could definately be good for mostly static data since
that might allow us to mostly not do seeks on normal conditions.

On Fri, 13 Oct 2000, Zeugswetter Andreas SB wrote:

> 
> > > > He does ask a legitimate question though. If you are 
> > going to have a
> > > > LIMIT feature (which of course is not pure SQL), there 
> > seems no reason
> > > > you shouldn't be able to insert the result into a table.
> > > 
> > > 
> > 
> > This is an interesting idea.  We don't allow ORDER BY in 
> > INSERT INTO ...
> > SELECT because it doesn't make any sense, but it does make sense if
> > LIMIT is used:
> 
> An "order by" also makes sense if you want to create a presorted table
> for faster access. I don't see why we should disallow it.
> 
> Andreas
>

Re: AW: Inserting a select statement result into another ta ble

From
Tom Lane
Date:
Zeugswetter Andreas SB <ZeugswetterA@wien.spardat.at> writes:
>> This is an interesting idea.  We don't allow ORDER BY in 
>> INSERT INTO ...
>> SELECT because it doesn't make any sense, but it does make sense if
>> LIMIT is used:

> An "order by" also makes sense if you want to create a presorted table
> for faster access. I don't see why we should disallow it.

In current sources:

regression=# insert into int4_tbl select * from int4_tbl order by f1;
INSERT 0 5
regression=# select * from int4_tbl;    f1
-------------          0     123456    -123456 2147483647-2147483647-2147483647         <<= insertion starts here
-123456         0     123456 2147483647
 
(10 rows)

LIMIT won't work without some further code-rejiggering, but I think
it should be made to work eventually.
        regards, tom lane