Thread: Re: Open Source Database Routs Competition in New Benchmark Tests
Given all this performance discussion, has anyone seen any numbersregarding the speed of PostgreSQl vs Oracle? Thanks. - Brandon -- sixdegrees.com w 212.375.2688 c 917.723.1981
> Given all this performance discussion, has anyone seen any numbers regarding
> the speed of PostgreSQl vs Oracle?
Um, er...
No, but perhaps you could consider "one of the leading closed source
database products" which was compared in the Great Bridge test to be
similar in speed and features to The Database You Have Named. *hint
hint*
- Thomas
Is "Uracle" called "Proprietary 1" or "Proprietary 2"? I can't remember :-) And which other RDBMS is proprietary? Could it be M$ql Server....? Hint, hint Poul L. Christiansen merlin wrote: > Given all this performance discussion, has anyone seen any numbersregarding the > speed of PostgreSQl vs Oracle? > > Thanks. > - Brandon > > -- > sixdegrees.com > w 212.375.2688 > c 917.723.1981
On Tue, 15 Aug 2000, merlin wrote: > Given all this performance discussion, has anyone seen any > numbersregarding the speed of PostgreSQl vs Oracle? Oracle and MS SQL Server must have been the two "leading commercial RDBMSes" mentioned in the article. The licencing of both of those expressly forbids publishing benchmark results (including, we can probably assume from the wording of the article, even referring directly to such). That said, it would be nice to see some actual numbers and configurations for the postgresql end of things; What hardware was used? What versions of what system software? What OS tuning was done? What parameters were supplied to postgres? Matthew.
There are a thousand RDBMS products that might fall under that heading, the reason the names weren't published is that most commercial RDBMS product prohibit the publishing of benchmarks when you buy it. The guys that did this benchmark weren't trying to hide who it was just for the sake of hiding it, they really can't *legally* say. I know some people that have benchmarked Oracle and PostgreSQL... Oracle won, that's all I'll say.. People still need to use whatever RDBMS makes their life easier, one could make an argument for virtually all existing products (commercial or not) on that product's individual strengths and weaknesses. -Mitch ----- Original Message ----- From: "Poul L. Christiansen" <plc@faroenet.fo> To: "merlin" <merlin@sixdegrees.com> Cc: <pgsql-hackers@postgreSQL.org> Sent: Tuesday, August 15, 2000 10:17 AM Subject: Re: [HACKERS] Open Source Database Routs Competition in New Benchmark Tests > Is "Uracle" called "Proprietary 1" or "Proprietary 2"? I can't remember :-) > > And which other RDBMS is proprietary? Could it be M$ql Server....? > > Hint, hint > Poul L. Christiansen > > merlin wrote: > > > Given all this performance discussion, has anyone seen any numbersregarding the > > speed of PostgreSQl vs Oracle? > > > > Thanks. > > - Brandon > > > > -- > > sixdegrees.com > > w 212.375.2688 > > c 917.723.1981 > >
At 06:17 PM 8/15/00 +0100, Poul L. Christiansen wrote: >Is "Uracle" called "Proprietary 1" or "Proprietary 2"? I can't remember :-) > >And which other RDBMS is proprietary? Could it be M$ql Server....? Informix, possibly, I know they have the restrictive clause regarding benchmarking in their contract. - Don Baccus, Portland OR <dhogaza@pacifier.com> Nature photos, on-line guides, Pacific Northwest Rare Bird Alert Serviceand other goodies at http://donb.photo.net.
Hi Matthew, We'll pull together some more background info on the specifics you mentioned, and put them on the website shortly. Regards, Ned Matthew Kirkwood wrote: > That said, it would be nice to see some actual > numbers and configurations for the postgresql end > of things; What hardware was used? What versions > of what system software? What OS tuning was done? > What parameters were supplied to postgres? > > Matthew.
this may be interesting ned.. and others.. http://www.devshed.com/BrainDump/MySQL_Benchmarks/ it will probably just fuel a fire. but at the same time something can probably be learned. jeff On Tue, 15 Aug 2000, Ned Lilly wrote: > Hi Matthew, > > We'll pull together some more background info on the specifics you > mentioned, and put them on the website shortly. > > Regards, > Ned > > > > Matthew Kirkwood wrote: > > > That said, it would be nice to see some actual > > numbers and configurations for the postgresql end > > of things; What hardware was used? What versions > > of what system software? What OS tuning was done? > > What parameters were supplied to postgres? > > > > Matthew. > Jeff MacDonald, ----------------------------------------------------- PostgreSQL Inc | Hub.Org Networking Services jeff@pgsql.com | jeff@hub.org www.pgsql.com | www.hub.org 1-902-542-0713 | 1-902-542-3657 ----------------------------------------------------- Fascimile : 1 902 542 5386 IRC Nick : bignose
At 11:47 PM 8/15/00 -0300, Jeff MacDonald wrote: >this may be interesting ned.. and others.. > >http://www.devshed.com/BrainDump/MySQL_Benchmarks/ He's full of shit the first moment he talks about them always trying to design fair tests. Sorry ... I would love to see just one example where DEFAULT table locking is better (as he claims) - in PG I can of course lock a table if I want. I was recently asked to check out an Oracle site that was dying due to system loads escalating > 70.0 (the decimal point, sadly, is properly placed). Turns out they were doing by-hand pessimistic table locking because they didn't understand that Oracle wasn't MySQL, so to speak, and under load (generating a digest) threads stacked up (not helped by an Oracle client library bug that causes weird spinlock deadlocks, not discovered by me but earlier by ardDigita). Pessimistic locking is available in PG and real RDBMS systems like Oracle. That's not proof that pessimistic locking is the right thing to do as not only your default locking but your only locking. Monty's not fair, and I think most people here know it. They lie, obfuscate, refuse to update comparision charts to new versions, etc etc etc. I wouldn't trust him to pack my parachute, that's for sure. - Don Baccus, Portland OR <dhogaza@pacifier.com> Nature photos, on-line guides, Pacific Northwest Rare Bird Alert Serviceand other goodies at http://donb.photo.net.