Thread: Repeat posts

Repeat posts

From
Raymond O'Donnell
Date:
Hi all,

Is it just me? :-) from time to time I get repeat broadcasts from
various PG mailing lists - posts that I've already received several days
previously are sent again.

It's not a major problem, nor even annoying in any way....I was just
wondering if anyone else has noticed it.

Ray.

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Re: Repeat posts

From
Alban Hertroys
Date:
Raymond O'Donnell wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> Is it just me? :-) from time to time I get repeat broadcasts from
> various PG mailing lists - posts that I've already received several days
> previously are sent again.
>
> It's not a major problem, nor even annoying in any way....I was just
> wondering if anyone else has noticed it.

I just finished going through my new mail since this morning, which
contained several fresh duplicates of messages I already read. So yes,
it happens to me too.

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Re: Repeat posts

From
Martijn van Oosterhout
Date:
On Fri, Aug 17, 2007 at 01:13:33PM +0100, Raymond O'Donnell wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> Is it just me? :-) from time to time I get repeat broadcasts from
> various PG mailing lists - posts that I've already received several days
> previously are sent again.

AIUI, posts from non-subscribers can get held for moderation. Because
they CC the other people the thread kept going. Later on the moderator
approves the messages and they get sent out again.

Hope this help,
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Re: Repeat posts

From
Raymond O'Donnell
Date:
On 17/08/2007 13:48, Martijn van Oosterhout wrote:

> AIUI, posts from non-subscribers can get held for moderation. Because
> they CC the other people the thread kept going. Later on the moderator
> approves the messages and they get sent out again.

Ah - I see. As I said, it wasn't a problem....just curious. - Thanks for
explaining.

Ray.

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Raymond O'Donnell, Director of Music, Galway Cathedral, Ireland
rod@iol.ie
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Re: Repeat posts

From
Tom Lane
Date:
"Raymond O'Donnell" <rod@iol.ie> writes:
> Is it just me? :-) from time to time I get repeat broadcasts from
> various PG mailing lists - posts that I've already received several days
> previously are sent again.

There are people on the lists with broken mail software that resubmits
old traffic back to the list.  The listserv has some defenses against
that --- it's supposed to reject message-ids that it's seen before ---
but count on Microsoft to mangle mail messages badly enough to get
around that.

The latest example, which I too just got, looks on inspection of the
headers to be blamable on <wavey@intercom.net>.  The time delay suggests
it was held for moderation, so maybe the software *did* recognize it as
a dup and it was moderator error to let it through.

            regards, tom lane

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From: "Scott Marlowe" <scott.marlowe@gmail.com>
To: RPK <rpk.general@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [GENERAL] MVCC cons
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On 8/14/07, RPK <rpk.general@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I want to know whether MVCC has cons also. Is it heavy on resources? How
> PGSQL MVCC relates with SQL Server 2005 new Snapshot Isolation.

Of course it does.  There ain't no such thing as a free lunch, after all.

PostgreSQL's mvcc implementation means that a row that gets updated a
lot may have many dead rows in the database, and if you don't run
vacuum often enough, or have enough space allocated in your free space
map, your tables can become bloated.

In a worst case scenario, a highly updated table may get so big that
normal vacuuming cannot salvage it and you would have to either
reindex or perform a vacuum full on it.

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