Thread: page is uninitialized?

page is uninitialized?

From
Brendan Duddridge
Date:
Hi,

I was doing a vacuum analyze verbose on my database today and I noticed the following message printed out:

WARNING:  relation "category_product" page 128979 is uninitialized --- fixing
WARNING:  relation "category_product" page 128980 is uninitialized --- fixing
WARNING:  relation "category_product" page 128981 is uninitialized --- fixing
WARNING:  relation "category_product" page 128982 is uninitialized --- fixing

Could that be due to updates occurring at the same time as vacuuming? There was a heavy process running
at the time that was updating the category_product table.

Thanks,


____________________________________________________________________
Brendan Duddridge | CTO | 403-277-5591 x24 |  brendan@clickspace.com

ClickSpace Interactive Inc.
Suite L100, 239 - 10th Ave. SE
Calgary, AB  T2G 0V9

http://www.clickspace.com 

Re: page is uninitialized?

From
Brendan Duddridge
Date:
Hi,

Shortly after posting this message, I received the following error also:

PANIC:  right sibling is not next child in "category_product__is_active_idx"
server closed the connection unexpectedly
        This probably means the server terminated abnormally
        before or while processing the request.
The connection to the server was lost. Attempting reset: Failed.

Are the two related in anyway? I'm starting to feel like my database is falling apart at the seams.

Thanks,

____________________________________________________________________
Brendan Duddridge | CTO | 403-277-5591 x24 |  brendan@clickspace.com

ClickSpace Interactive Inc.
Suite L100, 239 - 10th Ave. SE
Calgary, AB  T2G 0V9

http://www.clickspace.com 

On Apr 19, 2006, at 2:16 AM, Brendan Duddridge wrote:

Hi,

I was doing a vacuum analyze verbose on my database today and I noticed the following message printed out:

WARNING:  relation "category_product" page 128979 is uninitialized --- fixing
WARNING:  relation "category_product" page 128980 is uninitialized --- fixing
WARNING:  relation "category_product" page 128981 is uninitialized --- fixing
WARNING:  relation "category_product" page 128982 is uninitialized --- fixing

Could that be due to updates occurring at the same time as vacuuming? There was a heavy process running
at the time that was updating the category_product table.

Thanks,


____________________________________________________________________
Brendan Duddridge | CTO | 403-277-5591 x24 |  brendan@clickspace.com

ClickSpace Interactive Inc.
Suite L100, 239 - 10th Ave. SE
Calgary, AB  T2G 0V9

http://www.clickspace.com 


Re: page is uninitialized?

From
Brendan Duddridge
Date:
It turns out I had a bad index on my category_product table. I dropped the index, then reindexed the whole table, then I was
able to successfully vacuum analyze.

Thanks,

____________________________________________________________________
Brendan Duddridge | CTO | 403-277-5591 x24 |  brendan@clickspace.com

ClickSpace Interactive Inc.
Suite L100, 239 - 10th Ave. SE
Calgary, AB  T2G 0V9

http://www.clickspace.com 

On Apr 19, 2006, at 2:23 AM, Brendan Duddridge wrote:

Hi,

Shortly after posting this message, I received the following error also:

PANIC:  right sibling is not next child in "category_product__is_active_idx"
server closed the connection unexpectedly
        This probably means the server terminated abnormally
        before or while processing the request.
The connection to the server was lost. Attempting reset: Failed.

Are the two related in anyway? I'm starting to feel like my database is falling apart at the seams.

Thanks,

____________________________________________________________________
Brendan Duddridge | CTO | 403-277-5591 x24 |  brendan@clickspace.com

ClickSpace Interactive Inc.
Suite L100, 239 - 10th Ave. SE
Calgary, AB  T2G 0V9

http://www.clickspace.com 

On Apr 19, 2006, at 2:16 AM, Brendan Duddridge wrote:

Hi,

I was doing a vacuum analyze verbose on my database today and I noticed the following message printed out:

WARNING:  relation "category_product" page 128979 is uninitialized --- fixing
WARNING:  relation "category_product" page 128980 is uninitialized --- fixing
WARNING:  relation "category_product" page 128981 is uninitialized --- fixing
WARNING:  relation "category_product" page 128982 is uninitialized --- fixing

Could that be due to updates occurring at the same time as vacuuming? There was a heavy process running
at the time that was updating the category_product table.

Thanks,


____________________________________________________________________
Brendan Duddridge | CTO | 403-277-5591 x24 |  brendan@clickspace.com

ClickSpace Interactive Inc.
Suite L100, 239 - 10th Ave. SE
Calgary, AB  T2G 0V9

http://www.clickspace.com 



Re: page is uninitialized?

From
Tom Lane
Date:
Brendan Duddridge <brendan@clickspace.com> writes:
> Shortly after posting this message, I received the following error also:
> PANIC:  right sibling is not next child in
> "category_product__is_active_idx"

Last week's report of that same error was traced to running with
full_page_writes turned off; are you doing that?  If so, don't.
http://archives.postgresql.org/pgsql-bugs/2006-04/msg00135.php
http://archives.postgresql.org/pgsql-announce/2006-04/msg00002.php

            regards, tom lane

Re: page is uninitialized?

From
Tom Lane
Date:
Brendan Duddridge <brendan@clickspace.com> writes:
> I was doing a vacuum analyze verbose on my database today and I
> noticed the following message printed out:

> WARNING:  relation "category_product" page 128979 is uninitialized
> --- fixing
> WARNING:  relation "category_product" page 128980 is uninitialized
> --- fixing
> ...

There are some situations in which this is expected, which is why
VACUUM deals with it, but none of them are very good: they involve
backends adding a page to a table and then failing before they can
write a WAL record about initializing the page.  Have you had any
crashes recently?

            regards, tom lane

Re: page is uninitialized?

From
Brendan Duddridge
Date:
Hi Tom,

I had a problem recently with an index on my category_product table.
A few times when I was vacuuming that table, I had forgotten to reset
our statement_timeout setting from 2 minutes to 0, so a few times
the statement was cancelled pre-maturely due to the timeout setting.

Perhaps that caused the problem. I deleted the index and was able to
vacuum the table correctly. Prior to dropping the index, the database
did crash on me before I figured out what the problem was.

As a side note, we do have autovacuum turned on, but it doesn't seem
to kick in for tables that have a very large number of frequent updates.
The category_product table gets updated once every half an hour.
Vacuuming often finds over 300,000 row versions to delete. So that's
why I've been going in and running vacuum analyze manually. I know
I should probably add it to the end of the task that updates the table.

Thanks,

____________________________________________________________________
Brendan Duddridge | CTO | 403-277-5591 x24 |  brendan@clickspace.com

ClickSpace Interactive Inc.
Suite L100, 239 - 10th Ave. SE
Calgary, AB  T2G 0V9

http://www.clickspace.com

On Apr 19, 2006, at 9:02 AM, Tom Lane wrote:

> Brendan Duddridge <brendan@clickspace.com> writes:
>> I was doing a vacuum analyze verbose on my database today and I
>> noticed the following message printed out:
>
>> WARNING:  relation "category_product" page 128979 is uninitialized
>> --- fixing
>> WARNING:  relation "category_product" page 128980 is uninitialized
>> --- fixing
>> ...
>
> There are some situations in which this is expected, which is why
> VACUUM deals with it, but none of them are very good: they involve
> backends adding a page to a table and then failing before they can
> write a WAL record about initializing the page.  Have you had any
> crashes recently?
>
>             regards, tom lane
>
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