Thread: can't win

can't win

From
Jeff Rogers
Date:
I have a query that it seems is destined to be slow one way or another.  I
have a table of around 30k articles, categorized by topic and ordered by date:

create table articles (
  topic varchar(50),
  created date,
  data text
);

create index articles_topic_idx on articles(topic);
create index articles_created_idx on articles(created);

If I want to get the 5 most recent articles in a topic, I get a nice query
plan and a fast query:
# explain select * from articles where topic = 'Example' order by created desc
limit 5 ;
                                                 QUERY PLAN

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
-----------------------------
 Limit  (cost=0.00..646.71 rows=5 width=828)
   ->  Index Scan Backward using articles_created_idx on articles
(cost=0.00..85202.16 rows=659 width=828)
         Filter: (topic = 'Example'::character varying)
(3 rows)

# select * from articles where topic = 'Example' order by created desc limit 5
;
[.....]
Time: 18.42 ms

However, if the topic happens to not exist, this query takes a very long time:
# select * from articles where topic = 'NO-Example' order by created desc
limit 5 ;
[.....]
Time: 1075.36 ms

If I drop the date index or get more articles (so it doesn't do the backward
scan on articles_created_idx), then the situation is reversed: getting the
most recent articles for a topic that exists takes a fair amount of time,
while getting a topic that does not exist is nearly instantaneous.

Is there any way I can get the best of both worlds?

-J





Re: can't win

From
"Dann Corbit"
Date:
It might be worthwhile to experiment with 2 new indexes:

Create UNIQUE index articles_created_topic_idx on articles(created,
topic);
Create UNIQUE index articles_topic_created_idx on articles(topic,
created);

Probably, one of the two should become your primary key.

That will give the optimizer some new choices for plans.

> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:pgsql-general-owner@postgresql.org] On Behalf Of Jeff Rogers
> Sent: Friday, June 18, 2004 12:28 PM
> To: pgsql-general@postgresql.org
> Subject: [GENERAL] can't win
>
>
>
> I have a query that it seems is destined to be slow one way
> or another.  I
> have a table of around 30k articles, categorized by topic and
> ordered by date:
>
> create table articles (
>   topic varchar(50),
>   created date,
>   data text
> );
>
> create index articles_topic_idx on articles(topic);
> create index articles_created_idx on articles(created);
>
> If I want to get the 5 most recent articles in a topic, I get
> a nice query
> plan and a fast query:
> # explain select * from articles where topic = 'Example'
> order by created desc
> limit 5 ;
>                                                  QUERY PLAN
>
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------
> -----------------
> -----------------------------
>  Limit  (cost=0.00..646.71 rows=5 width=828)
>    ->  Index Scan Backward using articles_created_idx on articles
> (cost=0.00..85202.16 rows=659 width=828)
>          Filter: (topic = 'Example'::character varying)
> (3 rows)
>
> # select * from articles where topic = 'Example' order by
> created desc limit 5
> ;
> [.....]
> Time: 18.42 ms
>
> However, if the topic happens to not exist, this query takes
> a very long time: # select * from articles where topic =
> 'NO-Example' order by created desc
> limit 5 ;
> [.....]
> Time: 1075.36 ms
>
> If I drop the date index or get more articles (so it doesn't
> do the backward
> scan on articles_created_idx), then the situation is
> reversed: getting the
> most recent articles for a topic that exists takes a fair
> amount of time,
> while getting a topic that does not exist is nearly instantaneous.
>
> Is there any way I can get the best of both worlds?
>
> -J
>
>
>
>
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Re: can't win

From
Stephan Szabo
Date:
On Fri, 18 Jun 2004, Jeff Rogers wrote:

> create table articles (
>   topic varchar(50),
>   created date,
>   data text
> );
>
> create index articles_topic_idx on articles(topic);
> create index articles_created_idx on articles(created);
>
> If I want to get the 5 most recent articles in a topic, I get a nice query
> plan and a fast query:
> # explain select * from articles where topic = 'Example' order by created desc
> limit 5 ;
>                                                  QUERY PLAN
>
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> -----------------------------
>  Limit  (cost=0.00..646.71 rows=5 width=828)
>    ->  Index Scan Backward using articles_created_idx on articles
> (cost=0.00..85202.16 rows=659 width=828)
>          Filter: (topic = 'Example'::character varying)
> (3 rows)
>
> # select * from articles where topic = 'Example' order by created desc limit 5
> ;
> [.....]
> Time: 18.42 ms
>
> However, if the topic happens to not exist, this query takes a very long time:
> # select * from articles where topic = 'NO-Example' order by created desc
> limit 5 ;
> [.....]
> Time: 1075.36 ms
>
> If I drop the date index or get more articles (so it doesn't do the backward
> scan on articles_created_idx), then the situation is reversed: getting the
> most recent articles for a topic that exists takes a fair amount of time,
> while getting a topic that does not exist is nearly instantaneous.
>
> Is there any way I can get the best of both worlds?

Hmm, how about a multiple column index on (topic, created)?  You might
need to use
 select * from articles where topic='Example' order by topic desc, created
 desc limit 5;
to get it to use the index though.

Re: can't win

From
Jeff Rogers
Date:
>> Is there any way I can get the best of both worlds?
>
> Hmm, how about a multiple column index on (topic, created)?  You might
> need to use
>  select * from articles where topic='Example' order by topic desc, created
>  desc limit 5;
> to get it to use the index though.

That works beautifully, thanks!

-J