Thread: Sun Pushing MySQL but Mentions PostgreSQL

A while back in the "read this and puke" thread, some were bemoaning
Sun's LAMP initiative, where the 'M' stands for MySQL.  I was just
reading about this in eWeek
(http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,3959,476267,00.asp) and doing a little
bemoaning myself.  The article quotes Jonathan Schwartz, Sun's new head
of software, explaining it.

But then I came across an article by InfoWorld's Steve Gillmor
(http://www.infoworld.com/articles/op/xml/02/08/19/020819opcurve.xml)
where the same Jonathan Schwartz says, "We will go drive Linux like a
wedge. We will go hollow out DB2 and WebSphere with either a free
database or a free app server.  We can give away the Apache Web server,
Postgres, a free directory, a free messaging system, a free calendar and
free portal, a free infrastructure. All of it for free for 100 users,
and we can still make money. Microsoft can't."

The "Postgres" seems to have been thrown into his little riff casually;
it's not "official" like the MySQL in LAMP.  But I thought it was
interesting nonetheless.

Jim Caley

On Tue, 2002-08-20 at 21:46, Jim Caley wrote:

> But then I came across an article by InfoWorld's Steve Gillmor
> (http://www.infoworld.com/articles/op/xml/02/08/19/020819opcurve.xml)
> where the same Jonathan Schwartz says, "We will go drive Linux like a
> wedge. We will go hollow out DB2 and WebSphere with either a free
> database or a free app server.  We can give away the Apache Web server,
> Postgres, a free directory, a free messaging system, a free calendar and
> free portal, a free infrastructure. All of it for free for 100 users,
> and we can still make money. Microsoft can't."
>
> The "Postgres" seems to have been thrown into his little riff casually;
> it's not "official" like the MySQL in LAMP.  But I thought it was
> interesting nonetheless.

Maybe the guys from RHDB have been showing them some stuff??? =;-D

If they want to go up against MS-SQL and not Access then it seems like a
logical thing to do. After all, _we_ all know that an intranet web
application running on Tomcat/JBoss would bring MySQL to its knees with
100 users...

Cheers

Tony Grant

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http://www.animaproductions.com/ultra.html

Thanks for posting this Jim.  Its always good to have others point you in
a direction where you can keep the pulse on the wrist of the industry.

While I don't have an opinion on Sun's LAMP initiative, I do think it's
important to point out that at the end of the day, all the software we
use, languages, IDE's, DB's, are all tools to get a job done--I'm sure I'm
preaching to the choir.

I suspect that LAMP is pushing for MySQL because _they_feel_ (emphasis)
that it'll be an easier tool for their user-base to use.

I struggled to choose between either MySQL and PostgreSQL for my current
contract (in Greece--the weather here rox, BTW!!!) simply because I'm a
complete novice to DB's.  As an application developer, I'm making my first
jump into actually designing, building, and maintaining my own, large,
multi-lingual DB.  A the end of the day, I decided to go with PostgreSQL
simply because I felt that it was a better tool than MySQL
_for_this_project (emphasis), but it doesn't mean that I wouldn't choose
MySQL for another project.

I hope this last statement (or any other part of this e-mail) doesn't get
me flamed like a Greek Souvlaki (like a gyro).

    Peace from Greece,
    Please don't flame me, ;-)
    Aurangzeb


On Tue, 20 Aug 2002, Jim Caley wrote:

:A while back in the "read this and puke" thread, some were bemoaning
:Sun's LAMP initiative, where the 'M' stands for MySQL.  I was just
:reading about this in eWeek
:(http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,3959,476267,00.asp) and doing a little
:bemoaning myself.  The article quotes Jonathan Schwartz, Sun's new head
:of software, explaining it.
:
:But then I came across an article by InfoWorld's Steve Gillmor
:(http://www.infoworld.com/articles/op/xml/02/08/19/020819opcurve.xml)
:where the same Jonathan Schwartz says, "We will go drive Linux like a
:wedge. We will go hollow out DB2 and WebSphere with either a free
:database or a free app server.  We can give away the Apache Web server,
:Postgres, a free directory, a free messaging system, a free calendar and
:free portal, a free infrastructure. All of it for free for 100 users,
:and we can still make money. Microsoft can't."
:
:The "Postgres" seems to have been thrown into his little riff casually;
:it's not "official" like the MySQL in LAMP.  But I thought it was
:interesting nonetheless.
:
:Jim Caley
:
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