Thread: Windows - why not?

Windows - why not?

From
"Andrea Chiado' Piat"
Date:
I'm not much practical with Linux but reading the characteristics of
PostGreSql I find it very interesting.
Why does not exist one official version for windows?

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Re: Windows - why not?

From
Devrim GUNDUZ
Date:
Hi,


On Mon, 22 Jul 2002, Andrea Chiado' Piat wrote:

> I'm not much practical with Linux but reading the characteristics of
> PostGreSql I find it very interesting.
> Why does not exist one official version for windows?
>

Taken from FAQ :

   The database server can run on Windows NT and Win2k using Cygwin, the
   Cygnus Unix/NT porting library. See pgsql/doc/FAQ_MSWIN in the
   distribution or the MS Windows FAQ on our web site. We have no plan to
   do a native port to any Microsoft platform.

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However, you could download cygwin from www.cygwin.com; set up an Unix
environment in a windos having NT kernel and then compile PostgreSQL;
which "I" would not offer you to do.

It'll be better for you to get used to Linux...

BEst regards.


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Re: Windows - why not?

From
Andrew Sullivan
Date:
On Mon, Jul 22, 2002 at 03:58:42PM +0300, Devrim GUNDUZ wrote:
>
> Taken from FAQ :
>
>    The database server can run on Windows NT and Win2k using Cygwin, the
>    Cygnus Unix/NT porting library. See pgsql/doc/FAQ_MSWIN in the
>    distribution or the MS Windows FAQ on our web site. We have no plan to
>    do a native port to any Microsoft platform.

Note that in spite of the last sentence, there is active work being
done on a native Windows port, AFAIK.

A

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Re: Windows - why not?

From
Devrim GUNDUZ
Date:
Hi,

On Mon, 22 Jul 2002, Andrew Sullivan wrote:

> > We have no plan to do a native port to any Microsoft platform.
>
> Note that in spite of the last sentence, there is active work being
> done on a native Windows port, AFAIK.

Who's doig that? Developers or other people?

I do never want to see a Windos port of PostgreSQL!

:-(

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Re: Windows - why not?

From
Andrew Sullivan
Date:
On Mon, Jul 22, 2002 at 05:43:05PM +0300, Devrim GUNDUZ wrote:
> On Mon, 22 Jul 2002, Andrew Sullivan wrote:

> > Note that in spite of the last sentence, there is active work being
> > done on a native Windows port, AFAIK.
>
> Who's doig that? Developers or other people?

I believe one of the core developers is working on it, among other
people.  Check out the archives for -hackers for all the discussion.

> I do never want to see a Windos port of PostgreSQL!

a.    Why?  What difference could it make to you?  No-one is
compelling you to use it.
b.    Welcome to the free software world -- people will work on
whatever they like.  (That isn't to say that a nasty bunch of
compromises should be made in PostgreSQL just to support Windows; but
I have every confidence in the sound programming sensibilities of the
core developers -- and they'd be the ones making such a decision.)

A
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Re: Windows - why not?

From
Joerg Hessdoerfer
Date:
On Monday 22 July 2002 16:43, you wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Mon, 22 Jul 2002, Andrew Sullivan wrote:
> > > We have no plan to do a native port to any Microsoft platform.
> >
> > Note that in spite of the last sentence, there is active work being
> > done on a native Windows port, AFAIK.
>
> Who's doig that? Developers or other people?
>
> I do never want to see a Windos port of PostgreSQL!

You won't. It's called a Windows port ;-)

>
> :-(
>
> Best regards.
Thank you.

Greetings,
    Joerg
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Re: Windows - why not?

From
Jan Wieck
Date:
Andrew Sullivan wrote:
>
> On Mon, Jul 22, 2002 at 05:43:05PM +0300, Devrim GUNDUZ wrote:
> > On Mon, 22 Jul 2002, Andrew Sullivan wrote:
>
> > > Note that in spite of the last sentence, there is active work being
> > > done on a native Windows port, AFAIK.
> >
> > Who's doig that? Developers or other people?
>
> I believe one of the core developers is working on it, among other
> people.  Check out the archives for -hackers for all the discussion.

That would be me.

>
> > I do never want to see a Windos port of PostgreSQL!
>
> a.      Why?  What difference could it make to you?  No-one is
> compelling you to use it.
> b.      Welcome to the free software world -- people will work on
> whatever they like.  (That isn't to say that a nasty bunch of
> compromises should be made in PostgreSQL just to support Windows; but
> I have every confidence in the sound programming sensibilities of the
> core developers -- and they'd be the ones making such a decision.)

There will be only negligible changes to PostgreSQL on UNIX. Namely that
all locations in shared memory will be identified by offsets instead of
pointers again (has been that way when we got the code from Berkeley and
braking it was a bad idea IMHO). And if he doesn't like it, he allways
has the option to look the other way.


Jan

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Re: Windows - why not?

From
Andrew Sullivan
Date:
On Mon, Jul 22, 2002 at 12:46:29PM -0400, Jan Wieck wrote:

> all locations in shared memory will be identified by offsets instead of
> pointers again (has been that way when we got the code from Berkeley and
> braking it was a bad idea IMHO). And if he doesn't like it, he allways

Just out of curiosity, what was the rationale for the change?  (I had
no luck with the -hacker archives, which appear to be down.)

A

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