Thread: Yoga
Would someone who's been using PostgreSQL for production use like to do some advocating in the Yoga (or Gnuotes) project? Yoga is a project meant to build a Notes killer. The general feeling seems to be to use SleepyCat DB, which I've never heard about before. The Web Page tells that it's in reality Berkeley DB, a very simple file construction, not at all what I consider a database. Back when I programmed Cobol, it was just indexed files... I think the main problem is that people doesn't know how far PostgreSQL has come. In my eyes, the only thing missing could be hot backup, but I don't know for sure. Also there's the question of reliability (up time). Personnally, I'm not sure how PostgreSQL will handle documents (that's what Notes / Yoga is about), as I believe that BLOBS are poorly supported, but perhaps the developers of PostgreSQL would accomodate Yoga in this matter. A big problem for SleepyCat is in my eyes that it doesn't support SQL at all! Yoga can be found here: http://samba.anu.edu.au/yoga/ The database web page: http://samba.anu.edu.au/yoga/team/datastore/ And the discussion is taking place here: yoga-list@samba.anu.edu.au (I'm not on this list right at this time, so please send replies directly to me)
> > Would someone who's been using PostgreSQL for production use like to do > some advocating in the Yoga (or Gnuotes) project? > > Yoga is a project meant to build a Notes killer. > > The general feeling seems to be to use SleepyCat DB, which I've never > heard about before. The Web Page tells that it's in reality Berkeley DB, > a very simple file construction, not at all what I consider a database. > Back when I programmed Cobol, it was just indexed files... > > I think the main problem is that people doesn't know how far PostgreSQL > has come. In my eyes, the only thing missing could be hot backup, but I > don't know for sure. Also there's the question of reliability (up time). > > Personnally, I'm not sure how PostgreSQL will handle documents (that's > what Notes / Yoga is about), as I believe that BLOBS are poorly > supported, but perhaps the developers of PostgreSQL would accomodate > Yoga in this matter. I agree with your conclusion that PostgreSQL would be superior for this type of application, though Berkeley DB has its uses for simple embedded applications that don't need any end-user access to the data. Basically, let them download 6.3.2 and try it. Not much more we can do if they don't want to download it. If they want to send specific questions to the list, I am sure they will be answered. -- Bruce Momjian | 830 Blythe Avenue maillist@candle.pha.pa.us | Drexel Hill, Pennsylvania 19026 + If your life is a hard drive, | (610) 353-9879(w) + Christ can be your backup. | (610) 853-3000(h)
Are there any plans to make Postgresql into a object database hat follows the OMG standard? I know this would not happen anytime soon, being that the SQL part is still being worked on, but it seems that with the tulips architecture it should possible. Oliver
On Mon, 8 Jun 1998, Kaare Rasmussen wrote: > Would someone who's been using PostgreSQL for production use like to do > some advocating in the Yoga (or Gnuotes) project? > > Yoga is a project meant to build a Notes killer. > > The general feeling seems to be to use SleepyCat DB, which I've never > heard about before. The Web Page tells that it's in reality Berkeley DB, > a very simple file construction, not at all what I consider a database. > Back when I programmed Cobol, it was just indexed files... > > I think the main problem is that people doesn't know how far PostgreSQL > has come. In my eyes, the only thing missing could be hot backup, but I > don't know for sure. Also there's the question of reliability (up time). > > Personnally, I'm not sure how PostgreSQL will handle documents (that's > what Notes / Yoga is about), as I believe that BLOBS are poorly > supported, but perhaps the developers of PostgreSQL would accomodate > Yoga in this matter. > > A big problem for SleepyCat is in my eyes that it doesn't support SQL at > all! > > Yoga can be found here: http://samba.anu.edu.au/yoga/ > The database web page: http://samba.anu.edu.au/yoga/team/datastore/ > And the discussion is taking place here: yoga-list@samba.anu.edu.au I've joined the list...I'll at least lurk, if not say something... Marc G. Fournier Systems Administrator @ hub.org primary: scrappy@hub.org secondary: scrappy@{freebsd|postgresql}.org