Thread: pg_standby supported versions
I noticed in the docs for pg_standby (docs/src/sgml/pgstandby.sgml) that we have supported version >= 8.2. However it does seem to work ok with earlier versions (e.g 8.1) - or am I missing something? cheers Mark
On Aug 13, 2008, at 4:59 AM, Mark Kirkwood wrote: > I noticed in the docs for pg_standby (docs/src/sgml/pgstandby.sgml) > that we have supported version >= 8.2. However it does seem to work > ok with earlier versions (e.g 8.1) - or am I missing something? Hrm, AFAIK it works... Simon? -- Decibel!, aka Jim C. Nasby, Database Architect decibel@decibel.org Give your computer some brain candy! www.distributed.net Team #1828
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On Fri, 2008-08-22 at 00:50 -0500, Decibel! wrote: > On Aug 13, 2008, at 4:59 AM, Mark Kirkwood wrote: > > I noticed in the docs for pg_standby (docs/src/sgml/pgstandby.sgml) > > that we have supported version >= 8.2. However it does seem to work > > ok with earlier versions (e.g 8.1) - or am I missing something? > > Hrm, AFAIK it works... Simon? It works, yes. But in basic form only. You'll have problems stopping and starting standby, but the most important change is that the process is not restartable. So if you run it for a month and then crash, you'll need to re-run the whole month's WAL data. -- Simon Riggs www.2ndQuadrant.com PostgreSQL Training, Services and Support
Simon Riggs wrote: > On Fri, 2008-08-22 at 00:50 -0500, Decibel! wrote: > >> On Aug 13, 2008, at 4:59 AM, Mark Kirkwood wrote: >> >>> I noticed in the docs for pg_standby (docs/src/sgml/pgstandby.sgml) >>> that we have supported version >= 8.2. However it does seem to work >>> ok with earlier versions (e.g 8.1) - or am I missing something? >>> >> Hrm, AFAIK it works... Simon? >> > > It works, yes. But in basic form only. > > You'll have problems stopping and starting standby, but the most > important change is that the process is not restartable. So if you run > it for a month and then crash, you'll need to re-run the whole month's > WAL data. > > Exactly, after posting this I discovered the relevant CVS logs for changes to support restartable recovery. It seems to me that perhaps a little more detail in the docs would be good here. At work some folks are using pg_standby with 8.1 and while it does work quite well, it took me a wee while to figure out that some of the issues they are having are tied up with inability to continue recovery after restarting the database or the os! Best wishes Mark
On Wed, 2008-11-26 at 22:14 +1300, Mark Kirkwood wrote: > Simon Riggs wrote: > > > > You'll have problems stopping and starting standby, but the most > > important change is that the process is not restartable. So if you > run > > it for a month and then crash, you'll need to re-run the whole > month's > > WAL data. > > > > > Exactly, after posting this I discovered the relevant CVS logs for > changes to support restartable recovery. It seems to me that perhaps a > little more detail in the docs would be good here. I would hope that the complete absence of anything would be all that is required to dissuade people. We don't ever update the docs to say "BTW feature X is not supported until next release". Not sure we should start now. -- Simon Riggs www.2ndQuadrant.com PostgreSQL Training, Services and Support
Simon Riggs wrote: > On Wed, 2008-11-26 at 22:14 +1300, Mark Kirkwood wrote: > >> >> Exactly, after posting this I discovered the relevant CVS logs for >> changes to support restartable recovery. It seems to me that perhaps a >> little more detail in the docs would be good here. >> > > I would hope that the complete absence of anything would be all that is > required to dissuade people. We don't ever update the docs to say "BTW > feature X is not supported until next release". Not sure we should start > now. > > While I understand, I also think it is perfectly reasonable to clarify why a specific minimum version is being recommended. To me this conforms to the open source spirit of telling folk why something is true, as opposed to stating that it is. I'm thinking of something like: <para> pg_standby is designed to work with PostgreSQL 8.2 and later, as it requires the ability to interrupt and restart recovery (absent in earlier server versions). </para>