Thread: Update to FAQ

Update to FAQ

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"Joshua D. Drake"
Date:
To address naming issue.


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Re: Update to FAQ

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Bruce Momjian
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I don't see the value in referencing a community discussion in the FAQ.
What is the goal for this change?

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Re: Update to FAQ

From
"Greg Sabino Mullane"
Date:
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Joshua proposed:

!    In November 2007 a classic Open Source debate took place on whether
!    or not to change the name of the PostgreSQL project to Postgres.
!    It was decided that Postgres would be an officially recognized
!    nickname but that the name would remain PostgreSQL. Postgres was
!    the original name of the project at Berkeley and is strongly
!    preferred over other nicknames. If you find 'PostgreSQL' hard
!    to pronounce, call it 'Postgres' instead.
!

The debate has certainly spread well before (and after) November 2007.
Not sure what makes it a "classic Open Source debate" either. Because
it was debated in the open? I think the "decision" was basically
Core's punting of making the tough but necessary decision to make
the project name pronounceable once again (if I can add some spin
of my own :). If we are going to say "It was decided", we need
to state who (Core) actually did the decreeing / deciding.

In case it wasn't clear, I'm not in support of changing the FAQ
as proposed above.

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Re: Update to FAQ

From
Bruce Momjian
Date:
Greg Sabino Mullane wrote:
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> Joshua proposed:
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> !    In November 2007 a classic Open Source debate took place on whether
> !    or not to change the name of the PostgreSQL project to Postgres.
> !    It was decided that Postgres would be an officially recognized
> !    nickname but that the name would remain PostgreSQL. Postgres was
> !    the original name of the project at Berkeley and is strongly
> !    preferred over other nicknames. If you find 'PostgreSQL' hard
> !    to pronounce, call it 'Postgres' instead.
> !
>
> The debate has certainly spread well before (and after) November 2007.
> Not sure what makes it a "classic Open Source debate" either. Because
> it was debated in the open? I think the "decision" was basically
> Core's punting of making the tough but necessary decision to make
> the project name pronounceable once again (if I can add some spin
> of my own :). If we are going to say "It was decided", we need
> to state who (Core) actually did the decreeing / deciding.
>
> In case it wasn't clear, I'm not in support of changing the FAQ
> as proposed above.

In looking at it now I see the Berkeley sentence isn't necessary so I
just remove it.  (It was copied from the documentation.)  New text:

    <P>Postgres is a widely-used nickname for PostgreSQL.  If you find
    'PostgreSQL' hard to pronounce, call it 'Postgres' instead.</P>

Shorter is better in the FAQ.

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Re: Update to FAQ

From
"Joshua D. Drake"
Date:
On Wed,  9 Apr 2008 00:42:07 -0000
"Greg Sabino Mullane" <greg@turnstep.com> wrote:


> !    In November 2007 a classic Open Source debate took place on
> whether !    or not to change the name of the PostgreSQL project to
> Postgres. !    It was decided that Postgres would be an officially
> recognized !    nickname but that the name would remain PostgreSQL.
> Postgres was !    the original name of the project at Berkeley and is
> strongly !    preferred over other nicknames. If you find
> 'PostgreSQL' hard !    to pronounce, call it 'Postgres' instead.
> !
>
> The debate has certainly spread well before (and after) November 2007.

The "decision" came down from core in 11/2007 which is why I referenced
it.

> Not sure what makes it a "classic Open Source debate" either.

Long winded, full of flames and pointless :P

> Because
> it was debated in the open? I think the "decision" was basically
> Core's punting of making the tough but necessary decision to make
> the project name pronounceable once again (if I can add some spin
> of my own :). If we are going to say "It was decided", we need
> to state who (Core) actually did the decreeing / deciding.

Dave Page:

http://archives.postgresql.org/pgsql-advocacy/2007-11/msg00109.php

Sincerely,

Joshua D. Drake

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