Thread: Developer vs. Programmer
Right now we have a Developer's Guide (for internal db development) and a Programmer's Guide (for interfaces). We also have a Developer's Corner on our web site. Is there a clearer way to distinguish Programmer from DB internals Developer. I always get them confused. -- Bruce Momjian | http://candle.pha.pa.us pgman@candle.pha.pa.us | (610) 853-3000 + If your life is a hard drive, | 830 Blythe Avenue + Christ can be your backup. | Drexel Hill, Pennsylvania 19026
On Mon, 30 Apr 2001, Bruce Momjian wrote: > Right now we have a Developer's Guide (for internal db development) and > a Programmer's Guide (for interfaces). We also have a Developer's > Corner on our web site. > > Is there a clearer way to distinguish Programmer from DB internals > Developer. I always get them confused. Since the "Developer's Guide" is something that didn't exist in the docs before 7.1, I'd say that if anything a new name for it would be needed. But I have no suggestions. Vince. -- ========================================================================== Vince Vielhaber -- KA8CSH email: vev@michvhf.com http://www.pop4.net 56K Nationwide Dialup from $16.00/mo at Pop4 Networking Online Campground Directory http://www.camping-usa.com Online Giftshop Superstore http://www.cloudninegifts.com ==========================================================================
On Mon, 30 Apr 2001, Bruce Momjian wrote: > > Vince Vielhaber <vev@michvhf.com> writes: > > > On Mon, 30 Apr 2001, Bruce Momjian wrote: > > >> Is there a clearer way to distinguish Programmer from DB internals > > >> Developer. I always get them confused. > > > > > Since the "Developer's Guide" is something that didn't exist in the > > > docs before 7.1, I'd say that if anything a new name for it would be > > > needed. But I have no suggestions. > > > > What? It was there before: > > http://www.ca.postgresql.org/users-lounge/docs/7.0/postgres/part-developer.htm > > > > I agree that "developer's guide" vs "programmer's guide" is a rather > > unclear distinction ... no immediate ideas for better names though. > > OK, so people agree we need a better name but can't come up with one. > How about Internals Developer, so it would be the Internals Developers > Corner and the Internals Developer Manual. > > ick. -- ========================================================================== Vince Vielhaber -- KA8CSH email: vev@michvhf.com http://www.pop4.net 56K Nationwide Dialup from $16.00/mo at Pop4 Networking Online Campground Directory http://www.camping-usa.com Online Giftshop Superstore http://www.cloudninegifts.com ==========================================================================
On Mon, 30 Apr 2001, Tom Lane wrote: > Vince Vielhaber <vev@michvhf.com> writes: > > On Mon, 30 Apr 2001, Bruce Momjian wrote: > >> Is there a clearer way to distinguish Programmer from DB internals > >> Developer. I always get them confused. > > > Since the "Developer's Guide" is something that didn't exist in the > > docs before 7.1, I'd say that if anything a new name for it would be > > needed. But I have no suggestions. > > What? It was there before: > http://www.ca.postgresql.org/users-lounge/docs/7.0/postgres/part-developer.htm > > I agree that "developer's guide" vs "programmer's guide" is a rather > unclear distinction ... no immediate ideas for better names though. Let me clarify, there was no major section entitled "Developer's Guide" like there is now. Vince. -- ========================================================================== Vince Vielhaber -- KA8CSH email: vev@michvhf.com http://www.pop4.net 56K Nationwide Dialup from $16.00/mo at Pop4 Networking Online Campground Directory http://www.camping-usa.com Online Giftshop Superstore http://www.cloudninegifts.com ==========================================================================
> Vince Vielhaber <vev@michvhf.com> writes: > > On Mon, 30 Apr 2001, Bruce Momjian wrote: > >> Is there a clearer way to distinguish Programmer from DB internals > >> Developer. I always get them confused. > > > Since the "Developer's Guide" is something that didn't exist in the > > docs before 7.1, I'd say that if anything a new name for it would be > > needed. But I have no suggestions. > > What? It was there before: > http://www.ca.postgresql.org/users-lounge/docs/7.0/postgres/part-developer.htm > > I agree that "developer's guide" vs "programmer's guide" is a rather > unclear distinction ... no immediate ideas for better names though. OK, so people agree we need a better name but can't come up with one. How about Internals Developer, so it would be the Internals Developers Corner and the Internals Developer Manual. -- Bruce Momjian | http://candle.pha.pa.us pgman@candle.pha.pa.us | (610) 853-3000 + If your life is a hard drive, | 830 Blythe Avenue + Christ can be your backup. | Drexel Hill, Pennsylvania 19026
> > OK, so people agree we need a better name but can't come up with one. > > How about Internals Developer, so it would be the Internals Developers > > Corner and the Internals Developer Manual. > > > > > > ick. Yea, I had the same feeling. Can't someone come up with a nice name? -- Bruce Momjian | http://candle.pha.pa.us pgman@candle.pha.pa.us | (610) 853-3000 + If your life is a hard drive, | 830 Blythe Avenue + Christ can be your backup. | Drexel Hill, Pennsylvania 19026
On Mon, Apr 30, 2001 at 12:06:56PM -0400, Bruce Momjian wrote:
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> > ick.
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> Yea, I had the same feeling. Can't someone come up with a nice name?
How about Hacker's Guide? :)
-Roberto
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> On Mon, Apr 30, 2001 at 12:06:56PM -0400, Bruce Momjian wrote: > > > > > > ick. > > > > Yea, I had the same feeling. Can't someone come up with a nice name? > > How about Hacker's Guide? :) Yea, I liked that one. I don't think Vince wants to change developers corner. Maybe we can come back to this later. -- Bruce Momjian | http://candle.pha.pa.us pgman@candle.pha.pa.us | (610) 853-3000 + If your life is a hard drive, | 830 Blythe Avenue + Christ can be your backup. | Drexel Hill, Pennsylvania 19026
On Wed, 2 May 2001, Bruce Momjian wrote: > > On Mon, Apr 30, 2001 at 12:06:56PM -0400, Bruce Momjian wrote: > > > > > > > > ick. > > > > > > Yea, I had the same feeling. Can't someone come up with a nice name? > > > > How about Hacker's Guide? :) > > Yea, I liked that one. I don't think Vince wants to change developers > corner. Maybe we can come back to this later. Hacker's Guide sounds good. Hacker's Corner sounds bad. There's no reason at all that this guide can't be called the Hacker's Guide and for it to reside in the Developer's Corner. I'm going to be doing some redesign and face lifting in the not too distant future and hope the end result to be the Developer's Corner to be obviously for developers of PostgreSQL and not software developers *using* or developing products that use PostgreSQL. Vince. -- ========================================================================== Vince Vielhaber -- KA8CSH email: vev@michvhf.com http://www.pop4.net 56K Nationwide Dialup from $16.00/mo at Pop4 Networking Online Campground Directory http://www.camping-usa.com Online Giftshop Superstore http://www.cloudninegifts.com ==========================================================================
> Hacker's Guide sounds good. Hacker's Corner sounds bad. There's no > reason at all that this guide can't be called the Hacker's Guide and > for it to reside in the Developer's Corner. I'm going to be doing some > redesign and face lifting in the not too distant future and hope the > end result to be the Developer's Corner to be obviously for developers > of PostgreSQL and not software developers *using* or developing products > that use PostgreSQL. Great. Thanks. I realized I was getting the two confused, so I thought others might as well. -- Bruce Momjian | http://candle.pha.pa.us pgman@candle.pha.pa.us | (610) 853-3000 + If your life is a hard drive, | 830 Blythe Avenue + Christ can be your backup. | Drexel Hill, Pennsylvania 19026
> On Wed, 2 May 2001, Bruce Momjian wrote: > > > > On Mon, Apr 30, 2001 at 12:06:56PM -0400, Bruce Momjian wrote: > > > > > > > > > > ick. > > > > > > > > Yea, I had the same feeling. Can't someone come up with a nice name? > > > > > > How about Hacker's Guide? :) > > > > Yea, I liked that one. I don't think Vince wants to change developers > > corner. Maybe we can come back to this later. > > Hacker's Guide sounds good. Hacker's Corner sounds bad. There's no How about Hackers Lair? Catchy? -- Bruce Momjian | http://candle.pha.pa.us pgman@candle.pha.pa.us | (610) 853-3000 + If your life is a hard drive, | 830 Blythe Avenue + Christ can be your backup. | Drexel Hill, Pennsylvania 19026
On Thu, 3 May 2001, Richard Poole wrote: > On Wed, May 02, 2001 at 05:32:47PM -0400, Bruce Momjian wrote: > > > > > > Hacker's Guide sounds good. Hacker's Corner sounds bad. There's no > > > > How about Hackers Lair? Catchy? > > Any chance we could get the apostrophes right, whichever we go for? > If it's the Guide, or Corner, or Lair, of more than one Hacker, > then it's the "Hackers' Guide", or whatever. I like to be creative in that respect, so it'll depend on my mood at the time. Vince. -- ========================================================================== Vince Vielhaber -- KA8CSH email: vev@michvhf.com http://www.pop4.net 56K Nationwide Dialup from $16.00/mo at Pop4 Networking Online Campground Directory http://www.camping-usa.com Online Giftshop Superstore http://www.cloudninegifts.com ==========================================================================
On Wed, 2 May 2001, Bruce Momjian wrote: > > On Wed, 2 May 2001, Bruce Momjian wrote: > > > > > > On Mon, Apr 30, 2001 at 12:06:56PM -0400, Bruce Momjian wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > ick. > > > > > > > > > > Yea, I had the same feeling. Can't someone come up with a nice name? > > > > > > > > How about Hacker's Guide? :) > > > > > > Yea, I liked that one. I don't think Vince wants to change developers > > > corner. Maybe we can come back to this later. > > > > Hacker's Guide sounds good. Hacker's Corner sounds bad. There's no > > How about Hackers Lair? Catchy? Interesting...... -- ========================================================================== Vince Vielhaber -- KA8CSH email: vev@michvhf.com http://www.pop4.net 56K Nationwide Dialup from $16.00/mo at Pop4 Networking Online Campground Directory http://www.camping-usa.com Online Giftshop Superstore http://www.cloudninegifts.com ==========================================================================
On Wed, May 02, 2001 at 05:32:47PM -0400, Bruce Momjian wrote: > > > > Hacker's Guide sounds good. Hacker's Corner sounds bad. There's no > > How about Hackers Lair? Catchy? Any chance we could get the apostrophes right, whichever we go for? If it's the Guide, or Corner, or Lair, of more than one Hacker, then it's the "Hackers' Guide", or whatever. Richard
Wizards guide? :-) + Justin Roberto Mello wrote: > > On Mon, Apr 30, 2001 at 12:06:56PM -0400, Bruce Momjian wrote: > > > > > > ick. > > > > Yea, I had the same feeling. Can't someone come up with a nice name? > > How about Hacker's Guide? :) > > -Roberto > -- > +----| http://fslc.usu.edu USU Free Software & GNU/Linux Club |------+ > Roberto Mello - Computer Science, USU - http://www.brasileiro.net > http://www.sdl.usu.edu - Space Dynamics Lab, Developer > People say I'm indecisive. Am I? I don't know. > > ---------------------------(end of broadcast)--------------------------- > TIP 3: if posting/reading through Usenet, please send an appropriate > subscribe-nomail command to majordomo@postgresql.org so that your > message can get through to the mailing list cleanly -- "My grandfather once told me that there are two kinds of people: those who work and those who take the credit. He told me to try to be in the first group; there was less competition there." - Indira Gandhi
Roberto Mello writes: > How about Hacker's Guide? :) Sorry, but the philological battle for "hacker" is lost. It was nice while it lasted but the last thing we should do is name a book after it. ;-) More importantly, however, "hacker" (in the preferred meaning) does not achieve the desired semantic distinction either, since in a way developer == programmer == hacker. -- Peter Eisentraut peter_e@gmx.net http://funkturm.homeip.net/~peter