Thread: Please help me

Please help me

From
"Riccardo Merino"
Date:
Hello to everyone,
 
    that's the first time I visit your site.
I don't know if writing to this e-mail address is the right way.
I tried to follow the history of a problem I can't solve, but I can't understand if there would be a solution.
 
I try to explain, please let me know something or who can help me.
 
I installed Cygwin and Postgresql on a server running Windows 2000. When I restart the server, the service postmaster doesn't start. I learned that the file postmaster.pid has not been deleted and I don't know if there is a patch that fix this bug

Thank you very much for all.
 

________________________________
   Riccardo Merino

     System Administrator
     Servizio Sanità Milano

     Tel. 0221044562
     Fax. 0221044564

 

Re: Please help me

From
Frank Seesink
Date:
Riccardo,

The use of the postmaster.pid file is not a bug.  It's a standard
feature in Unix server software, the purpose of which is to prevent
users from accidentally running multiple copies of a program like
PostgreSQL.  Imagine what would happen if you fired up the PostgreSQL
server (postmaster), and while it was working with your precious data
writing out the bank account number from which you were about to
transfer a multimillion dollar transaction, you accidentally fired up a
second copy of postmaster, which then tried to access the same database
files, causing a deadlock and possible data corruption.  Ouch.

The postmaster.pid file is there to protect you.  When you fire up
postmaster, postmaster first looks if a postmaster.pid file exists.  If
postmaster.pid exists, postmaster shuts down immediately, without ever
trying to access the database files.  If postmaster.pid does not exist,
then postmaster generates this file (think Postmaster Process ID file),
which simply contains the process ID number that postmaster is running
as.  When you shutdown postmaster cleanly, it deletes this file.
postmaster.pid acts as a switch.

In the even that postmaster dies abnormally, the postmaster.pid file is
left behind, almost as a warning that things did not go well.  As a
database administrator, you would then run diagnostics on your database
files to make sure no corruption had occurred, and, once you were sure
all was well, you simply would delete the postmaster.pid file and then
relaunch postmaster.

Now in Windows, this is all fine and good, except that if you follow
Jason Tishler's README on installing PostgreSQL as an NT service, it
would often be nice if on system startup, any leftover postmaster.pid
files were deleted before PostgreSQL started up.  For example, if
someone accidentally powered off the Windows box, postmaster would not
have the chance to delete the PID file, meaning on the next bootup, your
PostgreSQL db wouldn't start.

But again, this is by design, to make sure you as admin are aware of
what happened.  If, as in my case, you are willing to take that chance,
then you have to take some extra steps in order to delete the PID file
on startup.  Search through this mailing list, as I have already posted
details on this before.

But please note that this is NOT a bug.  Odds are all you need to do is
go to your data store (which should be /var/postgresql/data if you're
using the latest version of PostgreSQL and followed Jason's README, or
possibly /usr/share/postgresql/data if you're using a slightly older
version), find the postmaster.pid file there, and delete it.  Then
startup PostgreSQL again and you're back in business.


Riccardo Merino wrote:

> Hello to everyone,
>
>     that's the first time I visit your site.
> I don't know if writing to this e-mail address is the right way.
> I tried to follow the history of a problem I can't solve, but I can't
> understand if there would be a solution.
>
> I try to explain, please let me know something or who can help me.
>
> I installed Cygwin and Postgresql on a server running Windows 2000. When
> I restart the server, the service postmaster doesn't start. I learned
> that the file postmaster.pid has not been deleted and I don't know if
> there is a patch that fix this bug
>
> Thank you very much for all.
>
>
> /________________________________/
>    Riccardo Merino
>
>      System Administrator
>      Servizio Sanità Milano
>
>      Tel. 0221044562
>      Fax. 0221044564
>
>