Thread: Insert statement changes timestamp value from MS Access ODBC

Insert statement changes timestamp value from MS Access ODBC

From
"David Dabney"
Date:
Please see attached text document.

Thanks,

Dave

David Dabney
OHH Database Specialist/Programmer
Hollings Marine Lab
131 Fort Johnson Road
Charleston, SC 29464
843.762.8984



insert into public_collection (original_collection_code, method, station_id, date_time, sampling_project_id,
contributor)
select LUCES_wq.deploy_code, LUCES_wq.method, LUCES_wq.station_id, Min(LUCES_wq.datetime) AS MinOfdatetime, 12, 1
FROM LUCES_wq
GROUP BY LUCES_wq.deploy_code, LUCES_wq.method, LUCES_wq.station_id
ORDER BY LUCES_wq.deploy_code



INSERT INTO public_wq ( original_deployment_code, collection_id, date_time, water_temp, ph, sp_cond, salinity, do_per,
do_mg_l,depth_m ) 
SELECT deploy_code, c.id, datetime, water_temp, ph, sp_cond, salinity, do_sat, do_mg_l, depth_m
FROM LUCES_wq as lwq
INNER JOIN public_collection as c on lwq.deploy_code = c.original_collection_code




INSERT INTO public_wq ( original_deployment_code, collection_id, date_time, water_temp, ph, sp_cond, salinity, do_per,
do_mg_l,depth_m) 
SELECT deploy_code, c.id, datetime, water_temp, ph, sp_cond, salinity, do_sat, do_mg_l, depth_m
FROM LUCES_wq as lwq
INNER JOIN public_collection as c on lwq.deploy_code = c.original_collection_code
WHERE c.id <=1980


INSERT INTO public_wq ( original_deployment_code, collection_id, date_time, water_temp, ph, sp_cond, salinity, do_per,
do_mg_l,depth_m) 
SELECT deploy_code, c.id, datetime, water_temp, ph, sp_cond, salinity, do_sat, do_mg_l, depth_m
FROM LUCES_wq as lwq
INNER JOIN public_collection as c on lwq.deploy_code = c.original_collection_code
WHERE c.id <=1981
and c.id >1980

TEST IN EMS
insert into public.wq (collection_id, date_time, original_deployment_code, water_temp, depth_m, salinity, sp_cond,
do_per,do_mg_l, ph) values (1982,'4/1/2001 3:00:00','MLM20010327',17.67,1.64,30.20,46.40,72.80,5.84,7.61) 

psql
COPY wq ( collection_id , date_time , original_deployment_code , water_temp , depth_m , salinity , sp_cond , do_per ,
do_mg_l, ph ) FROM '/usr/local/pgsql/ddluces.csv' CSV; 
COPY
ohh_v8=#

Deleted inserted records and tried to do in Access with '   ' around datetime.  Access gives type mismatch.  Tried
queryw/out.  Now it works. 
Should we always concatenate to insert date_time?

Now all the sudden this works.
INSERT INTO public_wq ( original_deployment_code, collection_id, date_time, water_temp, ph, sp_cond, salinity, do_per,
do_mg_l,depth_m) 
SELECT deploy_code, c.id, datetime, water_temp, ph, sp_cond, salinity, do_sat, do_mg_l, depth_m
FROM LUCES_wq as lwq
INNER JOIN public_collection as c on lwq.deploy_code = c.original_collection_code
WHERE c.id >=1982

Re: Insert statement changes timestamp value from MS Access

From
"David Dabney"
Date:
I'm sorry, but I attached the incorrect file the first time!
We are using MS Access as a frontend to import many water quality records into postgresql v. 8.0.2 on Red Hat 3
Enterprise.
When importing a table of 40,000+ records something is going wrong with the timestamp field only for certain records.
The records are listed below.


MS Access Details:

DATA TO IMPORT FROM LOCAL MSACCESS Table into linked ODBC pg table:
ID  original_deployment_code    date_time               water_temp  depth_m     salinity    sp_cond     do_per
do_mg_l    ph 
1   MLM20010327                 2001-04-01 02:00:00     17.860001   1.49352     30.1        46.299999   80.400002
6.42       7.64 
2   MLM20010327                 2001-04-01 02:30:00     17.700001   1.61544     30.200001   46.400002   78.699997   6.3
       7.64 
3   MLM20010327                 2001-04-01 03:00:00     17.67       1.64592     30.200001   46.400002   72.800003
5.84       7.62 
4   MLM20010327                 2001-04-01 03:30:00     17.639999   1.524       30.1        46.299999   79.300003
6.36       7.61 

Here's the SQL run from Access:
INSERT INTO public_wq ( original_deployment_code, collection_id, date_time, water_temp, ph, sp_cond, salinity, do_per,
do_mg_l,depth_m ) 
SELECT original_deployment_code, c.id, lwq.date_time, water_temp, ph, sp_cond, salinity, do_per, do_mg_l, depth_m
FROM DD5 AS lwq INNER JOIN public_collection AS c ON lwq.original_deployment_code=c.original_collection_code;

I get a uniqueness constraint error.

Here are the Postgresql table details:

CREATE TABLE "public"."wq" (
  "id" SERIAL,
  "collection_id" INTEGER NOT NULL,
  "date_time" TIMESTAMP(0) WITH TIME ZONE NOT NULL,
  "original_deployment_code" VARCHAR(20),
  "water_temp" NUMERIC(28,6),
  "depth_m" NUMERIC(28,6),
  "salinity" NUMERIC(28,6),
  "sp_cond" NUMERIC(28,6),
  "do_per" NUMERIC(28,6),
  "do_mg_l" NUMERIC(28,6),
  "ph" NUMERIC(28,6),
  "turbidity" NUMERIC(28,6),
  "chlorophyll_ug_l" NUMERIC(28,6),
  "orp_mv" NUMERIC(28,6),
  "reviewed" BOOLEAN DEFAULT false NOT NULL,
  "date_entered" TIMESTAMP(0) WITH TIME ZONE NOT NULL,
  "date_updated" TIMESTAMP(0) WITH TIME ZONE NOT NULL,
  "entered_by" VARCHAR(50) NOT NULL,
  "updated_by" VARCHAR(50) NOT NULL,
  CONSTRAINT "wq_pkey" PRIMARY KEY("id"),
  CONSTRAINT "fk_collection" FOREIGN KEY ("collection_id")
    REFERENCES "public"."collection"("id")
    ON DELETE NO ACTION
    ON UPDATE CASCADE
    NOT DEFERRABLE
) WITH OIDS;

COMMENT ON TABLE "public"."wq"
IS 'This is continuous wq.  Unique constraint is on collection and date_time.  Do we need fields for raw and
interpolatedvalues???'; 

COMMENT ON COLUMN "public"."wq"."collection_id"
IS 'fk to collection table.  ';

COMMENT ON COLUMN "public"."wq"."date_time"
IS 'Date that the sample was taken.  This is usually in 30 minute increments per collection.';

COMMENT ON COLUMN "public"."wq"."original_deployment_code"
IS '???';

COMMENT ON COLUMN "public"."wq"."do_per"
IS 'Calculate this in a trigger?';

COMMENT ON COLUMN "public"."wq"."reviewed"
IS 'This defaults to false and must be set manually in order to verify entries.  Possibly setup a view to filter these
out.';

COMMENT ON COLUMN "public"."wq"."date_entered"
IS 'Triggered value upon insert.  Will use current_timestamp unless specified.';

COMMENT ON COLUMN "public"."wq"."date_updated"
IS 'Triggered value upon update.  Will use current_timestamp.';

COMMENT ON COLUMN "public"."wq"."entered_by"
IS 'Triggered value upon insert.  Will use current_user unless otherwise specified.';

COMMENT ON COLUMN "public"."wq"."updated_by"
IS 'Triggered value upon update.  Will use current_user.';

CREATE UNIQUE INDEX "wq_unique_key" ON "public"."wq"
  USING btree ("collection_id", "date_time");

CREATE TRIGGER "new_wq_trig" BEFORE INSERT
ON "public"."wq" FOR EACH ROW
EXECUTE PROCEDURE "public"."new_record_logger"();

CREATE TRIGGER "update_wq_trig" BEFORE UPDATE
ON "public"."wq" FOR EACH ROW
EXECUTE PROCEDURE "public"."update_record_logger"();


****new_record_logger trigger****
BEGIN
     if new.date_entered is null then
        new.date_entered := current_timestamp;
     end if;
     if new.entered_by is null then
        new.entered_by := current_user;
     end if;
     if new.date_updated is null then
        new.date_updated := current_timestamp;
     end if;
     if new.updated_by is null then
        new.updated_by := current_user;
     end if;


     return new;
END;


RESULTS:

Taking the uniqueness constraint off allows import and the above inserted data is below (Notice that 2:00 and 2:30
changedto 3:00 and 3:30 during the insert): 

id      collection_id   date_time           original_deployment_code    water_temp  depth_m     salinity    sp_cond
do_per     do_mg_l     ph      turbidity   chlorophyll_ug_l    orp_mv  reviewed    date_entered            date_updated
          entered_by  updated_by 
204414  1982            2001-04-01 03:30:00 MLM20010327                 17.639999   1.524       30.1        46.299999
79.300003  6.36        7.61                                    0                   2005-07-27 14:28:39     2005-07-27
14:28:39    ddabney     ddabney 
204413  1982            2001-04-01 03:00:00 MLM20010327                 17.67       1.64592     30.200001   46.400002
72.800003  5.84        7.62                                    0                   2005-07-27 14:28:39     2005-07-27
14:28:39    ddabney     ddabney 
204412  1982            2001-04-01 03:30:00 MLM20010327                 17.700001   1.61544     30.200001   46.400002
78.699997  6.3         7.64                                    0                   2005-07-27 14:28:39     2005-07-27
14:28:39    ddabney     ddabney 
204411  1982            2001-04-01 03:00:00 MLM20010327                 17.860001   1.49352     30.1        46.299999
80.400002  6.42        7.64                                    0                   2005-07-27 14:28:39     2005-07-27
14:28:39    ddabney     ddabney 

I'm assuming this is a bug.




Re: Insert statement changes timestamp value from MS Access

From
Tom Lane
Date:
"David Dabney" <David.Dabney@noaa.gov> writes:
> I'm assuming this is a bug.

Perhaps, but there is absolutely no chance of anyone reproducing the
problem from the information you've offered.  You say "it fails when
I try to insert data from table DD5", but you give us no clue about
what data is in DD5.

There is some generic advice about how to create a useful bug report
here:
http://www.postgresql.org/docs/8.0/static/bug-reporting.html

The short and sweet version of it is "give us a SQL script that
delivers a wrong result" ...

            regards, tom lane

Re: Insert statement changes timestamp value from MS Access

From
"David Dabney"
Date:
Tom,

Thanks for the quick reply and I'm sorry I wasn't explicit enough in my
description.  At the top of the attachment there is this section which
is the piece of data from DD5 that is causing the problem:

****************
MS Access Details:

DATA TO IMPORT FROM LOCAL MSACCESS Table into linked ODBC pg table:
ID  original_deployment_code    date_time               water_temp
depth_m     salinity    sp_cond     do_per      do_mg_l     ph
1   MLM20010327                 2001-04-01 02:00:00     17.860001
1.49352     30.1        46.299999   80.400002   6.42        7.64
2   MLM20010327                 2001-04-01 02:30:00     17.700001
1.61544     30.200001   46.400002   78.699997   6.3         7.64
3   MLM20010327                 2001-04-01 03:00:00     17.67
1.64592     30.200001   46.400002   72.800003   5.84        7.62
4   MLM20010327                 2001-04-01 03:30:00     17.639999
1.524       30.1        46.299999   79.300003   6.36        7.61
********************

I needed to get this data in, so I tried to manually correct the invalid
date_time field after inserting and then put the uniqueness constraint
back on.  From EMS I tried to change the times from 3:30 and 3:00 to
2:30 and 2:00.  When I refresh the data it now shows 1:30 and 1:00 for
these records!  I then tried to change 1:30 and 1:00 to 2:30 and 2:00
and it went back to 3:30 and 3:00.

So I backed up and tried to import directly from psql.  The same results
happen as when I did it from MS Access.

I was driving home and realized 4/1/2001 was probably when daylight
savings time changed.....and it was.  So I'm not sure if this is a bug
or not.

Regards,

Dave

Tom Lane wrote:

>"David Dabney" <David.Dabney@noaa.gov> writes:
>
>
>>I'm assuming this is a bug.
>>
>>
>
>Perhaps, but there is absolutely no chance of anyone reproducing the
>problem from the information you've offered.  You say "it fails when
>I try to insert data from table DD5", but you give us no clue about
>what data is in DD5.
>
>There is some generic advice about how to create a useful bug report
>here:
>http://www.postgresql.org/docs/8.0/static/bug-reporting.html
>
>The short and sweet version of it is "give us a SQL script that
>delivers a wrong result" ...
>
>            regards, tom lane
>
>---------------------------(end of broadcast)---------------------------
>TIP 2: Don't 'kill -9' the postmaster
>
>

Re: Insert statement changes timestamp value from MS Access

From
"David Dabney"
Date:
The more I thought about this I realized it's not a bug and I'm sorry to
have perstered the list.  The fact that the data logger was deployed
before and after a time change and it was not setup to update itself
created this problem.  I just have to push forward all the times after
the change and then import the data.  We've been trying to get the
scientists to use UTC.....maybe this will help them understand why they
should be doing that.

Thanks,

Dave

PS Postgres rocks.  Please keep up the good work!

David Dabney wrote:

> Tom,
>
> Thanks for the quick reply and I'm sorry I wasn't explicit enough in
> my description.  At the top of the attachment there is this section
> which is the piece of data from DD5 that is causing the problem:
>
> ****************
> MS Access Details:
>
> DATA TO IMPORT FROM LOCAL MSACCESS Table into linked ODBC pg table:
> ID  original_deployment_code    date_time               water_temp
> depth_m     salinity    sp_cond     do_per      do_mg_l     ph
> 1   MLM20010327                 2001-04-01 02:00:00     17.860001
> 1.49352     30.1        46.299999   80.400002   6.42        7.64
> 2   MLM20010327                 2001-04-01 02:30:00     17.700001
> 1.61544     30.200001   46.400002   78.699997   6.3         7.64
> 3   MLM20010327                 2001-04-01 03:00:00     17.67
> 1.64592     30.200001   46.400002   72.800003   5.84        7.62
> 4   MLM20010327                 2001-04-01 03:30:00     17.639999
> 1.524       30.1        46.299999   79.300003   6.36        7.61
> ********************
>
> I needed to get this data in, so I tried to manually correct the
> invalid date_time field after inserting and then put the uniqueness
> constraint back on.  From EMS I tried to change the times from 3:30
> and 3:00 to 2:30 and 2:00.  When I refresh the data it now shows 1:30
> and 1:00 for these records!  I then tried to change 1:30 and 1:00 to
> 2:30 and 2:00 and it went back to 3:30 and 3:00.
>
> So I backed up and tried to import directly from psql.  The same
> results happen as when I did it from MS Access.
>
> I was driving home and realized 4/1/2001 was probably when daylight
> savings time changed.....and it was.  So I'm not sure if this is a bug
> or not.
> Regards,
>
> Dave
>
> Tom Lane wrote:
>
>> "David Dabney" <David.Dabney@noaa.gov> writes:
>>
>>
>>> I'm assuming this is a bug.
>>>
>>
>>
>> Perhaps, but there is absolutely no chance of anyone reproducing the
>> problem from the information you've offered.  You say "it fails when
>> I try to insert data from table DD5", but you give us no clue about
>> what data is in DD5.
>>
>> There is some generic advice about how to create a useful bug report
>> here:
>> http://www.postgresql.org/docs/8.0/static/bug-reporting.html
>>
>> The short and sweet version of it is "give us a SQL script that
>> delivers a wrong result" ...
>>
>>             regards, tom lane
>>
>> ---------------------------(end of broadcast)---------------------------
>> TIP 2: Don't 'kill -9' the postmaster
>>
>>
>
> ---------------------------(end of broadcast)---------------------------
> TIP 6: explain analyze is your friend
>

Re: Insert statement changes timestamp value from MS Access

From
Richard Huxton
Date:
David Dabney wrote:
> The more I thought about this I realized it's not a bug and I'm sorry to
> have perstered the list.  The fact that the data logger was deployed
> before and after a time change and it was not setup to update itself
> created this problem.  I just have to push forward all the times after
> the change and then import the data.  We've been trying to get the
> scientists to use UTC.....maybe this will help them understand why they
> should be doing that.

The other thing you should do is use "timestamp with time zone" to store
your timestamps. Otherwise, you aren't storing an absolute time at all.

--
   Richard Huxton
   Archonet Ltd