Thread: Suitable response to Oracle?
Would something like these be suitable in response to Oracle's recent letter in Russia? http://ded.ninja/dear_oracle/dear_oracle01.jpg http://ded.ninja/dear_oracle/dear_oracle02.jpg They'd need the text translated to Russian, but that's trivial to do (cut-n-paste) if you can email it to me. :) + Justin
On Tue, Mar 22, 2016 at 08:43:14PM +0000, Justin Clift wrote: > Would something like these be suitable in response to Oracle's > recent letter in Russia? > > http://ded.ninja/dear_oracle/dear_oracle01.jpg > http://ded.ninja/dear_oracle/dear_oracle02.jpg > > They'd need the text translated to Russian, but that's trivial > to do (cut-n-paste) if you can email it to me. :) I like the second one. :-) -- Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us> http://momjian.us EnterpriseDB http://enterprisedb.com + As you are, so once was I. As I am, so you will be. + + Roman grave inscription +
On 22 Mar 2016, at 20:58, Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us> wrote: > On Tue, Mar 22, 2016 at 08:43:14PM +0000, Justin Clift wrote: >> Would something like these be suitable in response to Oracle's >> recent letter in Russia? >> >> http://ded.ninja/dear_oracle/dear_oracle01.jpg >> http://ded.ninja/dear_oracle/dear_oracle02.jpg >> >> They'd need the text translated to Russian, but that's trivial >> to do (cut-n-paste) if you can email it to me. :) > > I like the second one. :-) Thanks. :) Open to other wording idea too. They were just the first best two versions on the spur of the moment. + Justin
On 23/03/16 09:43, Justin Clift wrote: > Would something like these be suitable in response to Oracle's > recent letter in Russia? > > http://ded.ninja/dear_oracle/dear_oracle01.jpg > http://ded.ninja/dear_oracle/dear_oracle02.jpg > > They'd need the text translated to Russian, but that's trivial > to do (cut-n-paste) if you can email it to me. :) > > + Justin > > The Titanic had 4 funnels! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Four_funnel_liner From memory, when the "Java 2" branding appeared (I think it was jdk1.2, but I may be wrong), SUN initially used an image of a steamship with 4 red funnels on the Java home page, but they stopped after the disaster film "Titanic' was released. Cheers, Gavin
+1 :-) Robert Bernier 206-407-9298 Original Message From: Justin Clift Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2016 2:02 PM To: Bruce Momjian Cc: Nikolay Samokhvalov; PostgreSQL Advocacy Mailing List Subject: Re: [pgsql-advocacy] Suitable response to Oracle? On 22 Mar 2016, at 20:58, Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us> wrote: > On Tue, Mar 22, 2016 at 08:43:14PM +0000, Justin Clift wrote: >> Would something like these be suitable in response to Oracle's >> recent letter in Russia? >> >> http://ded.ninja/dear_oracle/dear_oracle01.jpg >> http://ded.ninja/dear_oracle/dear_oracle02.jpg >> >> They'd need the text translated to Russian, but that's trivial >> to do (cut-n-paste) if you can email it to me. :) > > I like the second one. :-) Thanks. :) Open to other wording idea too. They were just the first best two versions on the spur of the moment. + Justin -- Sent via pgsql-advocacy mailing list (pgsql-advocacy@postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-advocacy
On Tue, Mar 22, 2016 at 11:43 PM, Justin Clift <justin@postgresql.org> wrote:
Would something like these be suitable in response to Oracle's
recent letter in Russia?
http://ded.ninja/dear_oracle/dear_oracle01.jpg
http://ded.ninja/dear_oracle/dear_oracle02.jpg
They'd need the text translated to Russian, but that's trivial
to do (cut-n-paste) if you can email it to me. :)
Actually, some companies, which was thinking about migration to postgres, asked us to reply to Oracle letter. I'd appreciate any help.
+ Justin
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On 22 Mar 2016, at 21:16, Gavin Flower <GavinFlower@archidevsys.co.nz> wrote: > On 23/03/16 09:43, Justin Clift wrote: >> Would something like these be suitable in response to Oracle's >> recent letter in Russia? >> >> http://ded.ninja/dear_oracle/dear_oracle01.jpg >> http://ded.ninja/dear_oracle/dear_oracle02.jpg >> >> They'd need the text translated to Russian, but that's trivial >> to do (cut-n-paste) if you can email it to me. :) >> > The Titanic had 4 funnels! > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Four_funnel_liner > > From memory, when the "Java 2" branding appeared (I think it was jdk1.2, but I may be wrong), SUN initially used an imageof a steamship with 4 red funnels on the Java home page, but they stopped after the disaster film "Titanic' was released. More funnel added. :) + Justin
On 22 Mar 2016, at 21:28, Oleg Bartunov <obartunov@gmail.com> wrote: > Actually, some companies, which was thinking about migration to postgres, asked us to reply to Oracle letter. I'd appreciateany help. Do you have thoughts on what we can do to assist? :) + Justin
On 22 Mar 2016, at 20:58, Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us> wrote: > On Tue, Mar 22, 2016 at 08:43:14PM +0000, Justin Clift wrote: >> Would something like these be suitable in response to Oracle's >> recent letter in Russia? >> >> http://ded.ninja/dear_oracle/dear_oracle01.jpg >> http://ded.ninja/dear_oracle/dear_oracle02.jpg >> >> They'd need the text translated to Russian, but that's trivial >> to do (cut-n-paste) if you can email it to me. :) > > I like the second one. :-) Apparently this is the correct Russian translation version: http://ded.ninja/dear_oracle/dear_oracle02ru.jpg Hoping that's not some different text I've been trolled with. :) + Justin
Oleg Bartunov schrieb am 22.03.2016 um 22:28: > Actually, some companies, which was thinking about migration to postgres, asked us to reply to Oracle letter. I'd appreciateany help. You could point out the statements were Oracle is plain wrong. > PostgreSQL has no recovery manager. While it's true that there there is no such tool built-in, tools like barman or pg_rman are on-par with RMAN > Multitenant allows to consolidate multiple databases into a single container Postgres supported multiple databases in a single container ages before Oracle was even thinking about doing that > Active Data Guard Postgres streaming replication with a hot standby is exactly the same thing > Tools to optimize client connections to the database, connection pools, various types of client drivers and libraries. Also completely wrong. There are several pooling tools available (pgBouncer, pgPool). There are sever ODBC, JDBC and .Netdrivers > No materialized views Postgres _does_ have MVIEWS (although they lack the ability for incremental refresh and there is no query-rewrite magic) > No Advanced Compression Postgres compresses values out of the box. While storage might not be as efficient (Oracle's advanced compression includesde-duping) my experience is that _accessing_ the compressed (text) data is much more efficient in Postgres comparedto Oracle. > Polyglot Persistence - support for semi-structured (JSON, XML) and unstructured (Key/Value) data Postgres had a key/value store usable within SQL long before Oracle did. Oracle's key/value store is a branded BerkelyDBand can not be used inside SQL statements. Postgres also had JSON support earlier than Oracle did. And the JSONdocuments can be indexed more efficiently in Postgres. While Postgres does have XML support, Oracle's implementation has some more features.
There's always this: http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/02372/oracle_2372737k.jpg I particularly like the guys hanging on for dear life. -- Korry > On 22 Mar 2016, at 21:16, Gavin Flower <GavinFlower@archidevsys.co.nz> wrote: >> On 23/03/16 09:43, Justin Clift wrote: >>> Would something like these be suitable in response to Oracle's >>> recent letter in Russia? >>> >>> http://ded.ninja/dear_oracle/dear_oracle01.jpg >>> http://ded.ninja/dear_oracle/dear_oracle02.jpg >>> >>> They'd need the text translated to Russian, but that's trivial >>> to do (cut-n-paste) if you can email it to me. :) >>> >> The Titanic had 4 funnels! >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Four_funnel_liner >> >> From memory, when the "Java 2" branding appeared (I think it was jdk1.2, but I may be wrong), SUN initially used an imageof a steamship with 4 red funnels on the Java home page, but they stopped after the disaster film "Titanic' was released. > More funnel added. :) > > + Justin >
On Wed, Mar 23, 2016 at 5:58 AM, Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us> wrote: > On Tue, Mar 22, 2016 at 08:43:14PM +0000, Justin Clift wrote: >> Would something like these be suitable in response to Oracle's >> recent letter in Russia? >> >> http://ded.ninja/dear_oracle/dear_oracle01.jpg >> http://ded.ninja/dear_oracle/dear_oracle02.jpg >> >> They'd need the text translated to Russian, but that's trivial >> to do (cut-n-paste) if you can email it to me. :) > > I like the second one. :-) You could as well append "That's the open source way!" on the first one. The second one is really good. -- Michael