Thread: State of our hosting page

State of our hosting page

From
Selena Deckelmann
Date:
This is out of date: 

   http://www.postgresql.org/support/professional_hosting/

Also, compared to the PostGIS list, our list seems oddly corporate and lacking: 


Perhaps the solution is to start a wiki page?

I did some searching in preparation for a talk, and found a few threads like this: 


And some ranking sites like this: 


Are there other places to get this information?  Does someone have time to work on a wiki page to collect a current list of providers? 

-selena

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Re: State of our hosting page

From
Dave Page
Date:
On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 2:48 PM, Selena Deckelmann <selena@chesnok.com> wrote:
> This is out of date:
>
>    http://www.postgresql.org/support/professional_hosting/
>
> Also, compared to the PostGIS list, our list seems oddly corporate and
> lacking:
>
> http://trac.osgeo.org/postgis/wiki/UsersWikiPostGISHosters
>
> Perhaps the solution is to start a wiki page?

The page on the website is dynamically generated and can easily be
added to by hosters or others. I don't see how moving to a wiki page
would make it any more up to date than the current page could be - and
it has the downside of moving yet another page onto the wiki which has
very a poor page rank in Google.

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Re: State of our hosting page

From
Selena Deckelmann
Date:


On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 6:53 AM, Dave Page <dpage@pgadmin.org> wrote:
On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 2:48 PM, Selena Deckelmann <selena@chesnok.com> wrote:
> This is out of date:
>
>    http://www.postgresql.org/support/professional_hosting/
>
> Also, compared to the PostGIS list, our list seems oddly corporate and
> lacking:
>
> http://trac.osgeo.org/postgis/wiki/UsersWikiPostGISHosters
>
> Perhaps the solution is to start a wiki page?

The page on the website is dynamically generated and can easily be
added to by hosters or others. I don't see how moving to a wiki page
would make it any more up to date than the current page could be - and
it has the downside of moving yet another page onto the wiki which has
very a poor page rank in Google.

How do we remove companies whose information is obsolete? 

-selena



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Re: State of our hosting page

From
Dave Page
Date:
On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 5:40 PM, Selena Deckelmann <selena@chesnok.com> wrote:
>
>
> On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 6:53 AM, Dave Page <dpage@pgadmin.org> wrote:
>>
>> On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 2:48 PM, Selena Deckelmann <selena@chesnok.com>
>> wrote:
>> > This is out of date:
>> >
>> >    http://www.postgresql.org/support/professional_hosting/
>> >
>> > Also, compared to the PostGIS list, our list seems oddly corporate and
>> > lacking:
>> >
>> > http://trac.osgeo.org/postgis/wiki/UsersWikiPostGISHosters
>> >
>> > Perhaps the solution is to start a wiki page?
>>
>> The page on the website is dynamically generated and can easily be
>> added to by hosters or others. I don't see how moving to a wiki page
>> would make it any more up to date than the current page could be - and
>> it has the downside of moving yet another page onto the wiki which has
>> very a poor page rank in Google.
>
>
> How do we remove companies whose information is obsolete?

Email pgsql-www, or if you want to work on it for more than a one-off
update, we can give you access to the admin interface.


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Re: State of our hosting page

From
Magnus Hagander
Date:
On Sat, Oct 13, 2012 at 6:26 PM, Dave Page <dpage@pgadmin.org> wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 5:40 PM, Selena Deckelmann <selena@chesnok.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 6:53 AM, Dave Page <dpage@pgadmin.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 2:48 PM, Selena Deckelmann <selena@chesnok.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> > This is out of date:
>>> >
>>> >    http://www.postgresql.org/support/professional_hosting/
>>> >
>>> > Also, compared to the PostGIS list, our list seems oddly corporate and
>>> > lacking:
>>> >
>>> > http://trac.osgeo.org/postgis/wiki/UsersWikiPostGISHosters
>>> >
>>> > Perhaps the solution is to start a wiki page?
>>>
>>> The page on the website is dynamically generated and can easily be
>>> added to by hosters or others. I don't see how moving to a wiki page
>>> would make it any more up to date than the current page could be - and
>>> it has the downside of moving yet another page onto the wiki which has
>>> very a poor page rank in Google.
>>
>>
>> How do we remove companies whose information is obsolete?
>
> Email pgsql-www, or if you want to work on it for more than a one-off
> update, we can give you access to the admin interface.

In the specific case of Selena, she already has that access, since
she's a "web slave".

As for the original question, there was an idea years ago to have the
system send an emali to the companies at regular interval asking them
to reconfirm their information. It got as far as a field in the
database, which was migraed onto the new website as well I believe.
But the actual reconfirmation process hasn't been implemented yet...

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Re: State of our hosting page

From
Selena Deckelmann
Date:
On Sat, Oct 13, 2012 at 12:05 PM, Magnus Hagander <magnus@hagander.net> wrote:
> On Sat, Oct 13, 2012 at 6:26 PM, Dave Page <dpage@pgadmin.org> wrote:
>> On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 5:40 PM, Selena Deckelmann <selena@chesnok.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 6:53 AM, Dave Page <dpage@pgadmin.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 2:48 PM, Selena Deckelmann <selena@chesnok.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> > This is out of date:
>>>> >
>>>> >    http://www.postgresql.org/support/professional_hosting/
>>>> >
>>>> > Also, compared to the PostGIS list, our list seems oddly corporate and
>>>> > lacking:
>>>> >
>>>> > http://trac.osgeo.org/postgis/wiki/UsersWikiPostGISHosters
>>>> >
>>>> > Perhaps the solution is to start a wiki page?
>>>>
>>>> The page on the website is dynamically generated and can easily be
>>>> added to by hosters or others. I don't see how moving to a wiki page
>>>> would make it any more up to date than the current page could be - and
>>>> it has the downside of moving yet another page onto the wiki which has
>>>> very a poor page rank in Google.
>>>
>>>
>>> How do we remove companies whose information is obsolete?
>>
>> Email pgsql-www, or if you want to work on it for more than a one-off
>> update, we can give you access to the admin interface.
>
> In the specific case of Selena, she already has that access, since
> she's a "web slave".
>
> As for the original question, there was an idea years ago to have the
> system send an emali to the companies at regular interval asking them
> to reconfirm their information. It got as far as a field in the
> database, which was migraed onto the new website as well I believe.
> But the actual reconfirmation process hasn't been implemented yet...

Oh, that's a good idea. :)

-selena


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Re: State of our hosting page

From
Magnus Hagander
Date:
On Mon, Oct 15, 2012 at 1:50 AM, Selena Deckelmann <selena@chesnok.com> wrote:
> On Sat, Oct 13, 2012 at 12:05 PM, Magnus Hagander <magnus@hagander.net> wrote:
>> On Sat, Oct 13, 2012 at 6:26 PM, Dave Page <dpage@pgadmin.org> wrote:
>>> On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 5:40 PM, Selena Deckelmann <selena@chesnok.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 6:53 AM, Dave Page <dpage@pgadmin.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 2:48 PM, Selena Deckelmann <selena@chesnok.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> > This is out of date:
>>>>> >
>>>>> >    http://www.postgresql.org/support/professional_hosting/
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Also, compared to the PostGIS list, our list seems oddly corporate and
>>>>> > lacking:
>>>>> >
>>>>> > http://trac.osgeo.org/postgis/wiki/UsersWikiPostGISHosters
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Perhaps the solution is to start a wiki page?
>>>>>
>>>>> The page on the website is dynamically generated and can easily be
>>>>> added to by hosters or others. I don't see how moving to a wiki page
>>>>> would make it any more up to date than the current page could be - and
>>>>> it has the downside of moving yet another page onto the wiki which has
>>>>> very a poor page rank in Google.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> How do we remove companies whose information is obsolete?
>>>
>>> Email pgsql-www, or if you want to work on it for more than a one-off
>>> update, we can give you access to the admin interface.
>>
>> In the specific case of Selena, she already has that access, since
>> she's a "web slave".
>>
>> As for the original question, there was an idea years ago to have the
>> system send an emali to the companies at regular interval asking them
>> to reconfirm their information. It got as far as a field in the
>> database, which was migraed onto the new website as well I believe.
>> But the actual reconfirmation process hasn't been implemented yet...
>
> Oh, that's a good idea. :)

Good enough that you will provide a patch? ;)

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 Magnus Hagander
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 Work: http://www.redpill-linpro.com/


Re: State of our hosting page

From
Selena Deckelmann
Date:
On Mon, Oct 15, 2012 at 6:55 AM, Magnus Hagander <magnus@hagander.net> wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 15, 2012 at 1:50 AM, Selena Deckelmann <selena@chesnok.com> wrote:
>> On Sat, Oct 13, 2012 at 12:05 PM, Magnus Hagander <magnus@hagander.net> wrote:
>>> On Sat, Oct 13, 2012 at 6:26 PM, Dave Page <dpage@pgadmin.org> wrote:
>>>> On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 5:40 PM, Selena Deckelmann <selena@chesnok.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 6:53 AM, Dave Page <dpage@pgadmin.org> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 2:48 PM, Selena Deckelmann <selena@chesnok.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> > This is out of date:
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >    http://www.postgresql.org/support/professional_hosting/
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Also, compared to the PostGIS list, our list seems oddly corporate and
>>>>>> > lacking:
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > http://trac.osgeo.org/postgis/wiki/UsersWikiPostGISHosters
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Perhaps the solution is to start a wiki page?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The page on the website is dynamically generated and can easily be
>>>>>> added to by hosters or others. I don't see how moving to a wiki page
>>>>>> would make it any more up to date than the current page could be - and
>>>>>> it has the downside of moving yet another page onto the wiki which has
>>>>>> very a poor page rank in Google.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> How do we remove companies whose information is obsolete?
>>>>
>>>> Email pgsql-www, or if you want to work on it for more than a one-off
>>>> update, we can give you access to the admin interface.
>>>
>>> In the specific case of Selena, she already has that access, since
>>> she's a "web slave".
>>>
>>> As for the original question, there was an idea years ago to have the
>>> system send an emali to the companies at regular interval asking them
>>> to reconfirm their information. It got as far as a field in the
>>> database, which was migraed onto the new website as well I believe.
>>> But the actual reconfirmation process hasn't been implemented yet...
>>
>> Oh, that's a good idea. :)
>
> Good enough that you will provide a patch? ;)


I could -- I probably need some information about how to send email
through pg infra. :)

-selena


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Re: State of our hosting page

From
Magnus Hagander
Date:
On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 12:57 AM, Selena Deckelmann <selena@chesnok.com> wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 15, 2012 at 6:55 AM, Magnus Hagander <magnus@hagander.net> wrote:
>> On Mon, Oct 15, 2012 at 1:50 AM, Selena Deckelmann <selena@chesnok.com> wrote:
>>> On Sat, Oct 13, 2012 at 12:05 PM, Magnus Hagander <magnus@hagander.net> wrote:
>>>> On Sat, Oct 13, 2012 at 6:26 PM, Dave Page <dpage@pgadmin.org> wrote:
>>>>> On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 5:40 PM, Selena Deckelmann <selena@chesnok.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 6:53 AM, Dave Page <dpage@pgadmin.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 2:48 PM, Selena Deckelmann <selena@chesnok.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> > This is out of date:
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >    http://www.postgresql.org/support/professional_hosting/
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > Also, compared to the PostGIS list, our list seems oddly corporate and
>>>>>>> > lacking:
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > http://trac.osgeo.org/postgis/wiki/UsersWikiPostGISHosters
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > Perhaps the solution is to start a wiki page?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The page on the website is dynamically generated and can easily be
>>>>>>> added to by hosters or others. I don't see how moving to a wiki page
>>>>>>> would make it any more up to date than the current page could be - and
>>>>>>> it has the downside of moving yet another page onto the wiki which has
>>>>>>> very a poor page rank in Google.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> How do we remove companies whose information is obsolete?
>>>>>
>>>>> Email pgsql-www, or if you want to work on it for more than a one-off
>>>>> update, we can give you access to the admin interface.
>>>>
>>>> In the specific case of Selena, she already has that access, since
>>>> she's a "web slave".
>>>>
>>>> As for the original question, there was an idea years ago to have the
>>>> system send an emali to the companies at regular interval asking them
>>>> to reconfirm their information. It got as far as a field in the
>>>> database, which was migraed onto the new website as well I believe.
>>>> But the actual reconfirmation process hasn't been implemented yet...
>>>
>>> Oh, that's a good idea. :)
>>
>> Good enough that you will provide a patch? ;)
>
>
> I could -- I probably need some information about how to send email
> through pg infra. :)

There are some other examples, look at eg tools/moderation (sends the
moderation reports). That's probably the closest thing, as it sends
reports from a cronjob which seems to align with what we'd want here.

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