Thread: Important OSCON update

Important OSCON update

From
Josh Berkus
Date:
Folks,

For those submitting to OSCON: O'Reilly has told me that they want only 2
tutorials and 6 presentations from us!      Really!

Which means that as many people who can change their tutorial to a
presentation before submitting it as possible, please do.    I will be
submitting only one presentation to avoid "bumping" other people from the
community.

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-Josh Berkus
 Aglio Database Solutions
 San Francisco


Re: Important OSCON update

From
elein
Date:
On the other hand, a large number of proposals
shows that we are a strong community with a lot
to offer.  This is important and will influence
our timeslots someone, IMHO.

elein

On Tue, Jan 27, 2004 at 03:07:57PM -0800, Josh Berkus wrote:
> Folks,
>
> For those submitting to OSCON: O'Reilly has told me that they want only 2
> tutorials and 6 presentations from us!      Really!
>
> Which means that as many people who can change their tutorial to a
> presentation before submitting it as possible, please do.    I will be
> submitting only one presentation to avoid "bumping" other people from the
> community.
>
> --
> -Josh Berkus
>  Aglio Database Solutions
>  San Francisco
>
>
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Re: Important OSCON update

From
Bruce Momjian
Date:
Josh Berkus wrote:
> Folks,
>
> For those submitting to OSCON: O'Reilly has told me that they want only 2
> tutorials and 6 presentations from us!      Really!
>
> Which means that as many people who can change their tutorial to a
> presentation before submitting it as possible, please do.    I will be
> submitting only one presentation to avoid "bumping" other people from the
> community.

This was the same number as last year, as I remember.

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Re: Important OSCON update

From
Robert Bernier
Date:
Here's a quote from an email I had from chromatic yesterday...

>Good question; there were only about this many PostgreSQL talks last
>year, but Nat did try to spread around the number of people selected for
>talks or tutorials.
>
>


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Bruce Momjian wrote:

>Josh Berkus wrote:
>
>
>>Folks,
>>
>>For those submitting to OSCON: O'Reilly has told me that they want only 2
>>tutorials and 6 presentations from us!      Really!
>>
>>Which means that as many people who can change their tutorial to a
>>presentation before submitting it as possible, please do.    I will be
>>submitting only one presentation to avoid "bumping" other people from the
>>community.
>>
>>
>
>This was the same number as last year, as I remember.
>
>
>


Re: Important OSCON update

From
Bruce Momjian
Date:
Robert Bernier wrote:
> Here's a quote from an email I had from chromatic yesterday...
>
> >Good question; there were only about this many PostgreSQL talks last
> >year, but Nat did try to spread around the number of people selected for
> >talks or tutorials.

My feeling is that we had a reasonable number of PostgreSQL folks last
year, but not enough to justify dramatically expanding our conferences
slots this year.  Now if this year has lots of attendees, we might have
more slots next year.

We could actually go to them and say we want OSCON to be our big event
each year, and if we get lots of people this year, can we have more
slots next year.  Basically, if we supply the attendees, they will give
us the slots.  Even last year, we had a whole room for a whole day, and
that was an expansion from the previous year.

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Re: Important OSCON update

From
Josh Berkus
Date:
Bruce,

> My feeling is that we had a reasonable number of PostgreSQL folks last
> year, but not enough to justify dramatically expanding our conferences
> slots this year.  Now if this year has lots of attendees, we might have
> more slots next year.

Oh, I don't think that O'Reilly is being unfair; I counted total timeslots for
the confence.   I'm just dissappointed that some of our people won't get to
go because their presentations will be alternates.


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-Josh Berkus
 Aglio Database Solutions
 San Francisco


Re: Important OSCON update

From
Bruce Momjian
Date:
Josh Berkus wrote:
> Bruce,
>
> > My feeling is that we had a reasonable number of PostgreSQL folks last
> > year, but not enough to justify dramatically expanding our conferences
> > slots this year.  Now if this year has lots of attendees, we might have
> > more slots next year.
>
> Oh, I don't think that O'Reilly is being unfair; I counted total timeslots for
> the confence.   I'm just dissappointed that some of our people won't get to
> go because their presentations will be alternates.

I was stating that more as a goal for people to attend.  If they want
this to be a big PostgreSQL event, we have to get our people motivated
to attend.

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Re: Important OSCON update

From
Christopher Browne
Date:
After a long battle with technology, josh@agliodbs.com (Josh Berkus), an earthling, wrote:
>> My feeling is that we had a reasonable number of PostgreSQL folks
>> last year, but not enough to justify dramatically expanding our
>> conferences slots this year.  Now if this year has lots of
>> attendees, we might have more slots next year.
>
> Oh, I don't think that O'Reilly is being unfair; I counted total
> timeslots for the confence.  I'm just dissappointed that some of our
> people won't get to go because their presentations will be
> alternates.

The only way that you can get more slots, in the long run, is to have
more people that are going despite _not_ giving presentations.  I'd
rather like to head to the conference, but it may be difficult to
justify the value to my employer if I'm not going to the additional
effort of presenting.

Getting numbers up to justify expanding the conference slots requires
that there be more people that are shelling out full price for the
conference.  O'Reilly isn't looking to pay more presenters to come;
they are looking to get attendees.
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