Thread: Re: Where is Postgesql ? - MYSQL SURPRISES WITH MAXDB /
johnnyb@eskimo.com (Jonathan Bartlett) writes:
> As far as I'm aware, MAXDB is completely different from MySQL,
> although it's sold by the same company. It's basically SAP's DB,
> which is really just a fork off of Adabas D, which has been a
> mainframe database for a long time.
>
> So, it really has nothing to do with MySQL, just the MySQL company.
MySQL AB got about $19M of venture capital to take over development of
"SAPDB," which represents rather a lot of 'nothing.'
What will happen in the integration of the product lines is a Really
Big Question.
- If it succeeds, it shows how impoverished the "old" product was;
- If it fails, it will be a company-killing disaster for them that
will reflect badly across the whole 'open source' community.
The latter would injure the credibility of PostgreSQL in the wider
community, despite the fact you or I might imagine this to be
irrelevant.
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> What will happen in the integration of the product lines is a Really
> Big Question.
>
> - If it succeeds, it shows how impoverished the "old" product was;
>
> - If it fails, it will be a company-killing disaster for them that
> will reflect badly across the whole 'open source' community.
The open source community will survive. If they don't play their
cards right, then MySQL could lose popularity fast and you'll know this is
the case because tools and scripts for converting away from it to other
database engines will become both popular and visible in a very short
period of time.
Aside from that, I don't see how the individual actions of one
organization that has been charging for open source software can possibly
reflect on all those projects which are totally free, such as PostgreSQL,
Druid, Apache, and the countless others -- when people think of open source
they don't think of MySQL first, they think of the real stars such as the
Apache Group and SourceForge.Net as great examples (although I still
haven't been able to locate the source code for SourceForge.Net).
> The latter would injure the credibility of PostgreSQL in the wider
> community, despite the fact you or I might imagine this to be
> irrelevant.
What do you base your conclusion on?
From my perspective MySQL and PostgreSQL are completely different
projects (for starters they even use different licensing schemes -- BSD v.
GPL) that are in competition. Since PostgreSQL stands on its own without
any dependencies on MySQL, I don't see any reason why PostgreSQL would
suffer in any way if MySQL came to an end; if anything, the marketshare for
all database engines will increase as a result of more awareness of other
open source database engines due to users and developers searching for
alternatives.
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Clinging to sanity, Randolf Richardson <rr@8x.ca> mumbled into her beard: > Aside from that, I don't see how the individual actions of one > organization that has been charging for open source software can > possibly reflect on all those projects which are totally free It most certainly would, in InfoWeek, and other such "sources of journalism" which happen to get read by a whole lot of Pointy-Haired Boss types. The point isn't of how YOU see it, but rather of how it would be seen by the people that make budget decisions based only on a minimal understanding of technical matters and a liberal dose of whatever they see in Gartner reports and other weekly 'rags.' For better or worse, that perspective has a good deal of influence. -- let name="cbbrowne" and tld="acm.org" in String.concat "@" [name;tld];; http://www.ntlug.org/~cbbrowne/spiritual.html "Jeez, got me. Unix is sorta like Heroin, It feels good for about 5 minutes a day and horrible the rest of the time." -- Jim O'Dell
>> Aside from that, I don't see how the individual actions of one
>> organization that has been charging for open source software can
>> possibly reflect on all those projects which are totally free
>
> It most certainly would, in InfoWeek, and other such "sources of
> journalism" which happen to get read by a whole lot of Pointy-Haired
> Boss types.
>
> The point isn't of how YOU see it, but rather of how it would be seen
> by the people that make budget decisions based only on a minimal
> understanding of technical matters and a liberal dose of whatever they
> see in Gartner reports and other weekly 'rags.' For better or worse,
> that perspective has a good deal of influence.
So, in other words, the human race hasn't actually evolved beyond the
generalized prejudices to the point of being destructive? Oh wait, I see
your point now that I consider who's in power at the White House.
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* Randolf Richardson <rr@8x.ca> wrote: <snip> > The open source community will survive. If they don't play their > cards right, then MySQL could lose popularity fast and you'll know this is > the case because tools and scripts for converting away from it to other > database engines will become both popular and visible in a very short > period of time. BTW: is there already something available in this direction ? I've got several customers asking for mysql (since they spent much money in some really mysql specific webapps). But I refuse to install this sql-spreadsheet tool on my systems. The same problem w/ MSSQL :( cu -- --------------------------------------------------------------------- Enrico Weigelt == metux IT service phone: +49 36207 519931 www: http://www.metux.de/ fax: +49 36207 519932 email: contact@metux.de cellphone: +49 174 7066481 --------------------------------------------------------------------- -- DSL ab 0 Euro. -- statische IP -- UUCP -- Hosting -- Webshops -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------