Thread: 7.4 not yet covered on /.
Hi, Did somebody submitted it? I was looking forward for some juicy commentary..:-) It is not yet there.. Shridhar
I submit'd it, and it got rejected ... On Tue, 18 Nov 2003, Shridhar Daithankar wrote: > Hi, > > Did somebody submitted it? I was looking forward for some juicy commentary..:-) > > It is not yet there.. > > Shridhar > > > ---------------------------(end of broadcast)--------------------------- > TIP 3: if posting/reading through Usenet, please send an appropriate > subscribe-nomail command to majordomo@postgresql.org so that your > message can get through to the mailing list cleanly > ---- Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email: scrappy@hub.org Yahoo!: yscrappy ICQ: 7615664
On Tue, Nov 18, 2003 at 10:08:58AM -0400, Marc G. Fournier wrote: > > I submit'd it, and it got rejected ... Submit a note to other site saying that Slashdot rejects news about PostgreSQL :-) -- Alvaro Herrera (<alvherre[a]dcc.uchile.cl>) "There is evil in the world. There are dark, awful things. Occasionally, we get a glimpse of them. But there are dark corners; horrors almost impossible to imagine... even in our worst nightmares." (Van Helsing, Dracula A.D. 1972)
On Tue, 2003-11-18 at 09:36, Alvaro Herrera wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 18, 2003 at 10:08:58AM -0400, Marc G. Fournier wrote:
> >
> > I submit'd it, and it got rejected ...
>
> Submit a note to other site saying that Slashdot rejects news about
> PostgreSQL :-)
>
Yeah really... that seems like almost enough of a nugget for a news item
itself... "slashdot rejects announcement of a major release of a major
open source software project"... an insider for the venerable news site
who spoke on the condition of anonymity said "every time we put up a
postgresql news item, the flame wars that erupt from the other open
source databases completely overload our message boards. as long as we
keep running on mysql, we just can't afford to give postgresql any press
coverage"...
:-)
Robert Treat
--
Build A Brighter Lamp :: Linux Apache {middleware} PostgreSQL
On Tue, 2003-11-18 at 09:36, Alvaro Herrera wrote: > On Tue, Nov 18, 2003 at 10:08:58AM -0400, Marc G. Fournier wrote: > > > > I submit'd it, and it got rejected ... > > Submit a note to other site saying that Slashdot rejects news about > PostgreSQL :-) I managed to get a 7.3 release posted on /. -- so I'll give it a shot.
Rod, > > Submit a note to other site saying that Slashdot rejects news about > > PostgreSQL :-) > > I managed to get a 7.3 release posted on /. -- so I'll give it a shot. If you haven't done it already, try linking to the Computerworld.au article for the submission. -- Josh Berkus Aglio Database Solutions San Francisco
On Tue, 2003-11-18 at 11:08, Josh Berkus wrote: > Rod, > > > > Submit a note to other site saying that Slashdot rejects news about > > > PostgreSQL :-) > > > > I managed to get a 7.3 release posted on /. -- so I'll give it a shot. > > If you haven't done it already, try linking to the Computerworld.au article > for the submission. I tried with the LinuxWorld article and the release notes. Rejected...
alvherre@dcc.uchile.cl (Alvaro Herrera) writes: > On Tue, Nov 18, 2003 at 10:08:58AM -0400, Marc G. Fournier wrote: >> >> I submit'd it, and it got rejected ... > > Submit a note to other site saying that Slashdot rejects news about > PostgreSQL :-) Some interesting threads came up on Linux Weekly News to that effect about the Linux Gazette 'split.' Synopsis: Linux Gazette was a monthly 'e-zine' that joined up with SSC, publishers of Linux Journal, for help with web hosting and editorial matters. SSC wanted a change of direction, to turn it into more of a 'Linux daily news portal' thing, which didn't fit with the intent of LG 'staff.' There has been a fork: SSC kept the linuxgazette.com domain; the "Answer Gang" have registered linuxgazette.net to continue on with the 'monthly thing.' And SSC has been censoring complaints about the matter. Reporting on Slashdot censorship could be news :-). -- select 'cbbrowne' || '@' || 'libertyrms.info'; <http://dev6.int.libertyrms.com/> Christopher Browne (416) 646 3304 x124 (land)
Guys, > I tried with the LinuxWorld article and the release notes. > > Rejected... Interesting. I'll have to drop a note to some of the Slashdot crew to see what's going on. -- Josh Berkus Aglio Database Solutions San Francisco
Hmmm .... Can somebody see if they can dig up a direct e-mail or two for me? Hemos, Taco, & Neal are pretty hard to reach, otherwise they'd be flooded with e-mail. -- Josh Berkus Aglio Database Solutions San Francisco
Never mind, Christopher Kings-Lynne got us on. Go Chris! -- -Josh Berkus Aglio Database Solutions San Francisco
>>Submit a note to other site saying that Slashdot rejects news about >>PostgreSQL :-) > > > I managed to get a 7.3 release posted on /. -- so I'll give it a shot. Too late guys, I win :P Chris
On Wed, 19 Nov 2003, Christopher Kings-Lynne wrote: > >>Submit a note to other site saying that Slashdot rejects news about > >>PostgreSQL :-) > > > > > > I managed to get a 7.3 release posted on /. -- so I'll give it a shot. > > Too late guys, I win :P I'd like to know the criteria for accepting, cause your text was exactly the same as my text, but I added a link to the press release to it :(
Josh Berkus wrote: > Never mind, Christopher Kings-Lynne got us on. > > Go Chris! It's funny. I didn't submit a particularly lengthy or well-thought out one, because I didn't realise I'd actually get accepted :) Chris
Josh Berkus wrote: > Never mind, Christopher Kings-Lynne got us on. > > Go Chris! Actually, what I notice is that back in 7.1 days, etc. SlashDot would be full of people ripping off Postgres, nowadays it's 95% people in full favour of Postgres and against MySQL. Things have really changed for the better. Chris
Christopher Kings-Lynne wrote: > > > Josh Berkus wrote: > > > Never mind, Christopher Kings-Lynne got us on. > > > > Go Chris! > > Actually, what I notice is that back in 7.1 days, etc. SlashDot would be > full of people ripping off Postgres, nowadays it's 95% people in full > favour of Postgres and against MySQL. > > Things have really changed for the better. Yes! I read the entire thread and our message is clearly getting out. I never would have seen that 2 years ago. -- Bruce Momjian | http://candle.pha.pa.us pgman@candle.pha.pa.us | (610) 359-1001 + If your life is a hard drive, | 13 Roberts Road + Christ can be your backup. | Newtown Square, Pennsylvania 19073
> I'd like to know the criteria for accepting, cause your text was exactly > the same as my text, but I added a link to the press release to it :( I thought about that, but then I decided that SlashDot is a tech crowd so I linked to the more technical list which itself has a link to the Press Release... Chris
Bruce Momjian wrote: > Yes! I read the entire thread and our message is clearly getting out. > I never would have seen that 2 years ago. > I had some moderation points saved up so I could 'nudge' things in the right direction :). Despite that though the Slashdot community clearly seems to be aware of the various advantages of Postgres. Merlin
Guys, > I had some moderation points saved up so I could 'nudge' things in the > right direction :). Despite that though the Slashdot community clearly > seems to be aware of the various advantages of Postgres. I'm a bit more cynical than that ... I've noticed that our popularity on Slashdot has increased directly with MySQL's profitability. Slashdot favors the underdog, no matter what .... -- Josh Berkus Aglio Database Solutions San Francisco
Josh Berkus wrote: > I'm a bit more cynical than that ... I've noticed that our popularity on > Slashdot has increased directly with MySQL's profitability. Slashdot > favors the underdog, no matter what .... I'll take a slightly more optimistic view. I personally (and I imagine most of the tech community would agree) have no problem with people trying to make a buck or two. It was their business decisions that are hurting (and continue to hurt them), most especially their threatening to get rid of the lgpl license for the non-static libs. That was a total PHB maneuver. This hurt their credibility with the php community, whose members are their core supporters. (PHB thinks: they don't pay, so who cares?) This is in stark contrast to the PostgreSQL developers, whose egalitarian methods and decentralized development style reflect the very spirit about what is 'open source'. This is reflected in slashdot, which is the mouthpiece of the liberal spirit of the OSS movement. Also, while not as widely deployed, postgres has a better educated, more thoughtful, and generally better paid user base and therefore is not exactly the 'underdog' of oss databases despite lacking repeated the bleating in the increasingly useless technical press that mysql enjoys. Er, I'm preaching to the choir again, when will I learn? :) Merlin
Merlin Moncure wrote: > I'll take a slightly more optimistic view. I personally (and I imagine > most of the tech community would agree) have no problem with people > trying to make a buck or two. It was their business decisions that are > hurting (and continue to hurt them), most especially their threatening > to get rid of the lgpl license for the non-static libs. That was a > total PHB maneuver. This hurt their credibility with the php community, > whose members are their core supporters. (PHB thinks: they don't pay, > so who cares?) Well, don't forget.. MySQL AB has a product now which surpasses postgresql in feature, at least in some areas. It is called MaxDB..-) > This is in stark contrast to the PostgreSQL developers, whose > egalitarian methods and decentralized development style reflect the very > spirit about what is 'open source'. This is reflected in slashdot, > which is the mouthpiece of the liberal spirit of the OSS movement. > Also, while not as widely deployed, postgres has a better educated, more > thoughtful, and generally better paid user base and therefore is not > exactly the 'underdog' of oss databases despite lacking repeated the > bleating in the increasingly useless technical press that mysql enjoys. IMO, we should get above that. PostgreSQL succeeds not because it is open source but because it works.(Or thankfully does not work at all when it does not work. It is the gray area that causes pain..) Postgresql being open source and being successful are two absolutely differnt things. Yes. It does help it become successful by being open source. But that is not the topmost reason for being successful. Certainly not. Shridhar