Thread: Re: DRAFT: v7.3 Release Announcement
Nice job on that one Marc, looks great, I especially liked the testimonials. Only thing I found confusing were the paths to the software, a layman might not understand them. I am guessing maybe these are to be filled in later? Maybe instead of /pub/source/v7.3, could be: http://www.postgresql.org/pub/source/v7.3 "Source for this release is available on all mirrors under: /pub/source/v7.3 A complete list of changes in v7.3 can be found in the HISTORY file, included with the release, or available from all ftp mirrors as: /pub/README.v7_3" Keep up the good work! ----- Original Message ----- From: Geoff Davidson <geoff@sales.org> Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 10:13:21 -0500 To: "Marc G. Fournier" <scrappy@hub.org> Subject: [pgsql-advocacy] DRAFT: v7.3 Release Announcement > Good morning! > > As requested, I've put together a draft proposal for this announcement > of the upcoming release. > > This is clearly done with an advocacy based sales & marketing spin. It > follows sales.org's proven 6 'Power Opening©' steps (of course): > 1. Who you are (PGDG) > 2. What you're selling (PostgreSQL) > 3. What's In It for Them (free alternative to commercial solutions) > 4. Why should they believe you (third party quotes/endorsements) > 5. Expectations (changes in this release, making it even better!) > 6. Process (Where to go and get the code or more info) > > Feel free to change and improve any of the content as you wish, I'm > not burdened by any ego issues wrt pride in authorship, even if you > decide to throw it out and start over ;) > > --Geoff > > ----- > > For Immediate Release November 1st, 2002 > > PostgreSQL Global Development Group Announces Version 7.3 > > PostgreSQL, the world's most advanced open source database, > provides solutions for many of the most demanding applications in > use today, saving business and government millions of dollars each > year. The PostgreSQL Global Development Group proudly announces that > the "best is better again" with the release of the freely available > PostgreSQL v7.3 object-relational database management system (ORDBMS). > > With more than 16 years of development by hundreds of the > world's most generous and brilliant minds from the open source > community, PostgreSQL continues to make the decision between free > software and commercial databases "a simple choice between open source > or an open wallet." Many companies and agencies can no longer afford > the high costs and constantly changing terms of licensed commercial > software - making PostgreSQL one of the most highly sought after free > technologies in the market today. With the release of v7.3 the > decision to choose PostgreSQL will be even easier. > > Here is what some current PostgreSQL users have gone on record > to say about this technology: > > "We believe that the key point relating to databases for the > .ORG redelegation is not which database the operator is using, but, > rather, whether the database will support the .ORG registry in a > stable, scalable, and highly available manner. > ...over a year of experience...clearly demonstrates that the > PostgreSQL database used by Afilias performs at the level of > reliability and availability required for the mission critical > operations of a global gTLD registry." > Internet Society (ISOC) > > "PostgreSQL has scaled perfectly with our rapidly expanding > business, and we recommend it over every other DB." > TrustCommerce, California > > "PgMarket has been developed around PostgreSQL because of its > unmatched performance, features, price, and scalability. It is the best > possible database for enterprise e-commerce." > Fitcom srl, Italy > > "PostgreSQL provided sales.org with a solution that was $70,000 > less expensive to create, and over 70% lower in cost to operate and > maintain than any of the commercial DBMS offerings we looked at." > sales.org Inc., Toronto > > "PostgreSQL handles virtually all the standard SQL constructs. > It is easy (relatively speaking) to administer, it is fast, it is > efficient, it has a great API, and it supports ODBC, why would you > choose something else?" > Mohawk Software, Massachusetts > > "... selected PostgreSQL as one of the key components for their > solution, relying on the power and extensibility of the database even > under heavy load." > Vanten, K.K., Tokyo > > > Additions & improvements in Version 7.3 release include: > > SCHEMAS > Schemas allow users to create objects in their own namespace > so two people or applications can have tables with the same > name. There is also a public schema for shared tables. > Table/index creation can be restricted by removing > permissions on the public schema > > Drop Column > Now supports ALTER TABLE ... DROP COLUMN functionality. > > Table Functions > Functions returning multiple rows and/or multiple columns are > now much easier to use than before. The "table function" can > be called in the SELECT FROM clause, treating its output like > a table. Also, plpgsql functions can now return sets. > > Prepared Queries > For performance, PostgreSQL now supports prepared queries. > > Dependency Tracking > PostgreSQL now records object dependencies, which allows > improvements in many areas. > > Privileges > Functions & procedural languages now have privileges. People > running these can take on the privileges of their creators. > > Multibyte/Locale > Both multibyte and locale are now always enabled. > > Logging > A variety of logging options have been enhanced. > > Interfaces > A large number of interfaces have been moved to > http://gborg.postgresql.org where they can be developed > and released independently. > > Functions/Identifiers > By default, functions can now take up to 32 parameters, and > identifiers can be up to 63 bytes long. > > Along with many many more enhancements, bug fixes and > performance related changes from v7.2 ... > > Source for this release is available on all mirrors under: > /pub/source/v7.3 > > More information on PostgreSQL is available on the project > websites mirrored worldwide through: > http://www.postgresql.org > > A complete list of changes in v7.3 can be found in the HISTORY > file, included with the release, or available from all ftp mirrors as: > /pub/README.v7_3 > > Marc G. Fournier > Co-ordinator > PostgreSQL Global Development Group > > ---------------------------(end of broadcast)--------------------------- > TIP 5: Have you checked our extensive FAQ? > > http://www.postgresql.org/users-lounge/docs/faq.html > > -- _______________________________________________ Get your free email from http://www.graffiti.net Powered by Outblaze
Derek, thanks for the catch on the paths, it's always better to spell these things out. > Derek Barrett wrote: > > Nice job on that one Marc, looks great, I especially liked the > testimonials. > > Only thing I found confusing were the paths to the software, > a layman might not understand them. I am guessing maybe these are to > be filled in later? Maybe instead of /pub/source/v7.3, could be: > > http://www.postgresql.org/pub/source/v7.3 > > "Source for this release is available on all mirrors under: > /pub/source/v7.3 > > A complete list of changes in v7.3 can be found in the > HISTORY file, included with the release, or available from all ftp mirrors as: > /pub/README.v7_3" > > Keep up the good work! > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Geoff Davidson <geoff@sales.org> > Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 10:13:21 -0500 > To: "Marc G. Fournier" <scrappy@hub.org> > Subject: [pgsql-advocacy] DRAFT: v7.3 Release Announcement > > > Good morning! > > > > As requested, I've put together a draft proposal for this announcement > > of the upcoming release. > > > > This is clearly done with an advocacy based sales & marketing spin. It > > follows sales.org's proven 6 'Power Opening©' steps (of course): > > 1. Who you are (PGDG) > > 2. What you're selling (PostgreSQL) > > 3. What's In It for Them (free alternative to commercial solutions) > > 4. Why should they believe you (third party quotes/endorsements) > > 5. Expectations (changes in this release, making it even better!) > > 6. Process (Where to go and get the code or more info) > > > > Feel free to change and improve any of the content as you wish, I'm > > not burdened by any ego issues wrt pride in authorship, even if you > > decide to throw it out and start over ;) > > > > --Geoff > > > > ----- > > > > For Immediate Release November 1st, 2002 > > > > PostgreSQL Global Development Group Announces Version 7.3 > > > > PostgreSQL, the world's most advanced open source database, > > provides solutions for many of the most demanding applications in > > use today, saving business and government millions of dollars each > > year. The PostgreSQL Global Development Group proudly announces that > > the "best is better again" with the release of the freely available > > PostgreSQL v7.3 object-relational database management system (ORDBMS). > > > > With more than 16 years of development by hundreds of the > > world's most generous and brilliant minds from the open source > > community, PostgreSQL continues to make the decision between free > > software and commercial databases "a simple choice between open source > > or an open wallet." Many companies and agencies can no longer afford > > the high costs and constantly changing terms of licensed commercial > > software - making PostgreSQL one of the most highly sought after free > > technologies in the market today. With the release of v7.3 the > > decision to choose PostgreSQL will be even easier. > > > > Here is what some current PostgreSQL users have gone on record > > to say about this technology: > > > > "We believe that the key point relating to databases for the > > .ORG redelegation is not which database the operator is using, but, > > rather, whether the database will support the .ORG registry in a > > stable, scalable, and highly available manner. > > ...over a year of experience...clearly demonstrates that the > > PostgreSQL database used by Afilias performs at the level of > > reliability and availability required for the mission critical > > operations of a global gTLD registry." > > Internet Society (ISOC) > > > > "PostgreSQL has scaled perfectly with our rapidly expanding > > business, and we recommend it over every other DB." > > TrustCommerce, California > > > > "PgMarket has been developed around PostgreSQL because of its > > unmatched performance, features, price, and scalability. It is the best > > possible database for enterprise e-commerce." > > Fitcom srl, Italy > > > > "PostgreSQL provided sales.org with a solution that was $70,000 > > less expensive to create, and over 70% lower in cost to operate and > > maintain than any of the commercial DBMS offerings we looked at." > > sales.org Inc., Toronto > > > > "PostgreSQL handles virtually all the standard SQL constructs. > > It is easy (relatively speaking) to administer, it is fast, it is > > efficient, it has a great API, and it supports ODBC, why would you > > choose something else?" > > Mohawk Software, Massachusetts > > > > "... selected PostgreSQL as one of the key components for their > > solution, relying on the power and extensibility of the database even > > under heavy load." > > Vanten, K.K., Tokyo > > > > > > Additions & improvements in Version 7.3 release include: > > > > SCHEMAS > > Schemas allow users to create objects in their own namespace > > so two people or applications can have tables with the same > > name. There is also a public schema for shared tables. > > Table/index creation can be restricted by removing > > permissions on the public schema > > > > Drop Column > > Now supports ALTER TABLE ... DROP COLUMN functionality. > > > > Table Functions > > Functions returning multiple rows and/or multiple columns are > > now much easier to use than before. The "table function" can > > be called in the SELECT FROM clause, treating its output like > > a table. Also, plpgsql functions can now return sets. > > > > Prepared Queries > > For performance, PostgreSQL now supports prepared queries. > > > > Dependency Tracking > > PostgreSQL now records object dependencies, which allows > > improvements in many areas. > > > > Privileges > > Functions & procedural languages now have privileges. People > > running these can take on the privileges of their creators. > > > > Multibyte/Locale > > Both multibyte and locale are now always enabled. > > > > Logging > > A variety of logging options have been enhanced. > > > > Interfaces > > A large number of interfaces have been moved to > > http://gborg.postgresql.org where they can be developed > > and released independently. > > > > Functions/Identifiers > > By default, functions can now take up to 32 parameters, and > > identifiers can be up to 63 bytes long. > > > > Along with many many more enhancements, bug fixes and > > performance related changes from v7.2 ... > > > > Source for this release is available on all mirrors under: > > /pub/source/v7.3 > > > > More information on PostgreSQL is available on the project > > websites mirrored worldwide through: > > http://www.postgresql.org > > > > A complete list of changes in v7.3 can be found in the HISTORY > > file, included with the release, or available from all ftp mirrors as: > > /pub/README.v7_3 > > > > Marc G. Fournier > > Co-ordinator > > PostgreSQL Global Development Group > >
Geoff, No problem, and my apologies for mixing you with Marc up. Keep up the good work! Derek ----- Original Message ----- From: Geoff Davidson <geoff@sales.org> Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 15:53:15 -0500 To: Derek Barrett <derekbarrett@graffiti.net> Subject: Re: [pgsql-advocacy] DRAFT: v7.3 Release Announcement > Derek, thanks for the catch on the paths, it's always better to > spell these things out. > > > Derek Barrett wrote: > > > > Nice job on that one Marc, looks great, I especially liked the > > testimonials. > > > > Only thing I found confusing were the paths to the software, > > a layman might not understand them. I am guessing maybe these are to > > be filled in later? Maybe instead of /pub/source/v7.3, could be: > > > > http://www.postgresql.org/pub/source/v7.3 > > > > "Source for this release is available on all mirrors under: > > /pub/source/v7.3 > > > > A complete list of changes in v7.3 can be found in the > > HISTORY file, included with the release, or available from all ftp mirrors as: > > /pub/README.v7_3" > > > > Keep up the good work! > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Geoff Davidson <geoff@sales.org> > > Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 10:13:21 -0500 > > To: "Marc G. Fournier" <scrappy@hub.org> > > Subject: [pgsql-advocacy] DRAFT: v7.3 Release Announcement > > > > > Good morning! > > > > > > As requested, I've put together a draft proposal for this announcement > > > of the upcoming release. > > > > > > This is clearly done with an advocacy based sales & marketing spin. It > > > follows sales.org's proven 6 'Power Opening©' steps (of course): > > > 1. Who you are (PGDG) > > > 2. What you're selling (PostgreSQL) > > > 3. What's In It for Them (free alternative to commercial solutions) > > > 4. Why should they believe you (third party quotes/endorsements) > > > 5. Expectations (changes in this release, making it even better!) > > > 6. Process (Where to go and get the code or more info) > > > > > > Feel free to change and improve any of the content as you wish, I'm > > > not burdened by any ego issues wrt pride in authorship, even if you > > > decide to throw it out and start over ;) > > > > > > --Geoff > > > > > > ----- > > > > > > For Immediate Release November 1st, 2002 > > > > > > PostgreSQL Global Development Group Announces Version 7.3 > > > > > > PostgreSQL, the world's most advanced open source database, > > > provides solutions for many of the most demanding applications in > > > use today, saving business and government millions of dollars each > > > year. The PostgreSQL Global Development Group proudly announces that > > > the "best is better again" with the release of the freely available > > > PostgreSQL v7.3 object-relational database management system (ORDBMS). > > > > > > With more than 16 years of development by hundreds of the > > > world's most generous and brilliant minds from the open source > > > community, PostgreSQL continues to make the decision between free > > > software and commercial databases "a simple choice between open source > > > or an open wallet." Many companies and agencies can no longer afford > > > the high costs and constantly changing terms of licensed commercial > > > software - making PostgreSQL one of the most highly sought after free > > > technologies in the market today. With the release of v7.3 the > > > decision to choose PostgreSQL will be even easier. > > > > > > Here is what some current PostgreSQL users have gone on record > > > to say about this technology: > > > > > > "We believe that the key point relating to databases for the > > > .ORG redelegation is not which database the operator is using, but, > > > rather, whether the database will support the .ORG registry in a > > > stable, scalable, and highly available manner. > > > ...over a year of experience...clearly demonstrates that the > > > PostgreSQL database used by Afilias performs at the level of > > > reliability and availability required for the mission critical > > > operations of a global gTLD registry." > > > Internet Society (ISOC) > > > > > > "PostgreSQL has scaled perfectly with our rapidly expanding > > > business, and we recommend it over every other DB." > > > TrustCommerce, California > > > > > > "PgMarket has been developed around PostgreSQL because of its > > > unmatched performance, features, price, and scalability. It is the best > > > possible database for enterprise e-commerce." > > > Fitcom srl, Italy > > > > > > "PostgreSQL provided sales.org with a solution that was $70,000 > > > less expensive to create, and over 70% lower in cost to operate and > > > maintain than any of the commercial DBMS offerings we looked at." > > > sales.org Inc., Toronto > > > > > > "PostgreSQL handles virtually all the standard SQL constructs. > > > It is easy (relatively speaking) to administer, it is fast, it is > > > efficient, it has a great API, and it supports ODBC, why would you > > > choose something else?" > > > Mohawk Software, Massachusetts > > > > > > "... selected PostgreSQL as one of the key components for their > > > solution, relying on the power and extensibility of the database even > > > under heavy load." > > > Vanten, K.K., Tokyo > > > > > > > > > Additions & improvements in Version 7.3 release include: > > > > > > SCHEMAS > > > Schemas allow users to create objects in their own namespace > > > so two people or applications can have tables with the same > > > name. There is also a public schema for shared tables. > > > Table/index creation can be restricted by removing > > > permissions on the public schema > > > > > > Drop Column > > > Now supports ALTER TABLE ... DROP COLUMN functionality. > > > > > > Table Functions > > > Functions returning multiple rows and/or multiple columns are > > > now much easier to use than before. The "table function" can > > > be called in the SELECT FROM clause, treating its output like > > > a table. Also, plpgsql functions can now return sets. > > > > > > Prepared Queries > > > For performance, PostgreSQL now supports prepared queries. > > > > > > Dependency Tracking > > > PostgreSQL now records object dependencies, which allows > > > improvements in many areas. > > > > > > Privileges > > > Functions & procedural languages now have privileges. People > > > running these can take on the privileges of their creators. > > > > > > Multibyte/Locale > > > Both multibyte and locale are now always enabled. > > > > > > Logging > > > A variety of logging options have been enhanced. > > > > > > Interfaces > > > A large number of interfaces have been moved to > > > http://gborg.postgresql.org where they can be developed > > > and released independently. > > > > > > Functions/Identifiers > > > By default, functions can now take up to 32 parameters, and > > > identifiers can be up to 63 bytes long. > > > > > > Along with many many more enhancements, bug fixes and > > > performance related changes from v7.2 ... > > > > > > Source for this release is available on all mirrors under: > > > /pub/source/v7.3 > > > > > > More information on PostgreSQL is available on the project > > > websites mirrored worldwide through: > > > http://www.postgresql.org > > > > > > A complete list of changes in v7.3 can be found in the HISTORY > > > file, included with the release, or available from all ftp mirrors as: > > > /pub/README.v7_3 > > > > > > Marc G. Fournier > > > Co-ordinator > > > PostgreSQL Global Development Group > > > > > ---------------------------(end of broadcast)--------------------------- > TIP 3: if posting/reading through Usenet, please send an appropriate > subscribe-nomail command to majordomo@postgresql.org so that your > message can get through to the mailing list cleanly > > -- _______________________________________________ Get your free email from http://www.graffiti.net Powered by Outblaze
I would have to agree with that, I would say that most of the tech community at large is ignorant of Postgres, and I didn't even find out about it myself, until I started investigating MySQL. Oracle on the other hand is known by everybody. One interesting thing that I want to add to this discussion, which I'm sure some of you have heard, and probably already mentioned, is that SAP released a free version of its database, called SAPDB. Now, when I think of "ultra enterprise level software" I think of SAP. Perhaps making one of those comparison charts and including SAPDB in there, we can piggyback on their name and use it to our advantage. I also believe, (but cannot confirm) that Sybase offers an older version of their Adaptive Server for the Linux platform, for free. ----- Original Message ----- From: Andrew Sullivan <andrew@libertyrms.info> Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 16:59:19 -0500 To: pgsql-advocacy@postgresql.org Subject: Re: [pgsql-advocacy] DRAFT: v7.3 Release Announcement > On Sun, Oct 27, 2002 at 02:14:10PM -0800, Josh Berkus wrote: > > > By "general tech press" I mean, for example, News.com and the > > Washingtion Post Business/Tech page. As opposed to "open source > > press", such as NewsForge and The Register, who would probably cover us > > even if we just forwarded them a mailing list message. > > In that case, I think we can safely say that the general tech world > doesn't really know what PostgreSQL is. Oracle's attempt to attack > PostgreSQL during the .org bids was either totally uninformed about > what PostgreSQL is; or, it was _not_ uninformed, but it was relying > on the general lack of knowledge. One way or another, it was > obviously relying on the general impresison that free RDBMS == MySQL > (and that in a version without, e.g., InnoDB tables). This is just > an observation, mind you; I barely even read the tech press, never > mind understand what is likely to attract attention from them. > > A > > -- > ---- > Andrew Sullivan 204-4141 Yonge Street > Liberty RMS Toronto, Ontario Canada > <andrew@libertyrms.info> M2P 2A8 > +1 416 646 3304 x110 > > > ---------------------------(end of broadcast)--------------------------- > TIP 5: Have you checked our extensive FAQ? > > http://www.postgresql.org/users-lounge/docs/faq.html > > -- _______________________________________________ Get your free email from http://www.graffiti.net Powered by Outblaze
Here's the link for those interested. I wonder if SAPDB goes the way of AOLServer --> a very solid enterprise level piece of software but rarely used. http://www.sapdb.org/ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Derek Barrett" <derekbarrett@graffiti.net> Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 06:21:02 +0800 To: <andrew@libertyrms.info>, pgsql-advocacy@postgresql.org Subject: Re: [pgsql-advocacy] DRAFT: v7.3 Release Announcement > I would have to agree with that, I would say that most > of the tech community at large is ignorant of Postgres, > and I didn't even find out about it myself, until I started > investigating MySQL. > > Oracle on the other hand is known by everybody. > > One interesting thing that I want to add to this > discussion, which I'm sure some of you have heard, > and probably already mentioned, is that SAP released > a free version of its database, called SAPDB. > Now, when I think of "ultra enterprise level software" > I think of SAP. Perhaps making one of those comparison > charts and including SAPDB in there, we can piggyback > on their name and use it to our advantage. > > I also believe, (but cannot confirm) that Sybase > offers an older version of their Adaptive Server > for the Linux platform, for free. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Andrew Sullivan <andrew@libertyrms.info> > Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 16:59:19 -0500 > To: pgsql-advocacy@postgresql.org > Subject: Re: [pgsql-advocacy] DRAFT: v7.3 Release Announcement > > > > On Sun, Oct 27, 2002 at 02:14:10PM -0800, Josh Berkus wrote: > > > > > By "general tech press" I mean, for example, News.com and the > > > Washingtion Post Business/Tech page. As opposed to "open source > > > press", such as NewsForge and The Register, who would probably cover us > > > even if we just forwarded them a mailing list message. > > > > In that case, I think we can safely say that the general tech world > > doesn't really know what PostgreSQL is. Oracle's attempt to attack > > PostgreSQL during the .org bids was either totally uninformed about > > what PostgreSQL is; or, it was _not_ uninformed, but it was relying > > on the general lack of knowledge. One way or another, it was > > obviously relying on the general impresison that free RDBMS == MySQL > > (and that in a version without, e.g., InnoDB tables). This is just > > an observation, mind you; I barely even read the tech press, never > > mind understand what is likely to attract attention from them. > > > > A > > > > -- > > ---- > > Andrew Sullivan 204-4141 Yonge Street > > Liberty RMS Toronto, Ontario Canada > > <andrew@libertyrms.info> M2P 2A8 > > +1 416 646 3304 x110 > > > > > > ---------------------------(end of broadcast)--------------------------- > > TIP 5: Have you checked our extensive FAQ? > > > > http://www.postgresql.org/users-lounge/docs/faq.html > > > > > > -- > _______________________________________________ > Get your free email from http://www.graffiti.net > > Powered by Outblaze > > ---------------------------(end of broadcast)--------------------------- > TIP 3: if posting/reading through Usenet, please send an appropriate > subscribe-nomail command to majordomo@postgresql.org so that your > message can get through to the mailing list cleanly > > -- _______________________________________________ Get your free email from http://www.graffiti.net Powered by Outblaze
Derek, > One interesting thing that I want to add to this > discussion, which I'm sure some of you have heard, > and probably already mentioned, is that SAP released > a free version of its database, called SAPDB. > Now, when I think of "ultra enterprise level software" > I think of SAP. Perhaps making one of those comparison > charts and including SAPDB in there, we can piggyback > on their name and use it to our advantage. I know about SAPDB -- nice folks. However, as we are the older and better-established project, I don't think we need to "piggyback on their name"; if anything, the other way around. -- -Josh Berkus Aglio Database Solutions San Francisco
Does anybody know where the archives of this list are? The link listed in the users lounge is broken http://archives.postgresql.org/pgsql-advocacy/ Thanks Adam -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean.