Thread: commiting transaction from outside
Hello, my question my sound strange, but because of a bug in an application I see the transaction was started and not commited (connection state is IDLE in transaction). Is there a way to commit this transaction? I don't want to loose data. I think if I close the application the transaction would get rollbacked. I've tried google'ing but without results - this might mean, that there is no way, but I thought asking is an option.. Thank you in advance for any advice. -- Julius Tuskenis Programavimo skyriaus vadovas UAB nSoft mob. +37068233050
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I'm sorry but there's no way to commit a transaction from outside, except if your application uses the two-phase commit (PREPARE TRANSACTION id_transaction)
I'm sorry but there's no way to commit a transaction from outside, except if your application uses the two-phase commit (PREPARE TRANSACTION id_transaction)
On Mon, Oct 3, 2011 at 6:50 PM, Julius Tuskenis <julius@nsoft.lt> wrote:
Hello,
my question my sound strange, but because of a bug in an application I see the transaction was started and not commited (connection state is IDLE in transaction). Is there a way to commit this transaction? I don't want to loose data. I think if I close the application the transaction would get rollbacked.
I've tried google'ing but without results - this might mean, that there is no way, but I thought asking is an option..
Thank you in advance for any advice.
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UAB nSoft
mob. +37068233050
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Julius Tuskenis <julius@nsoft.lt> wrote: > my question my sound strange, but because of a bug in an > application I see the transaction was started and not commited > (connection state is IDLE in transaction). Is there a way to > commit this transaction? I don't want to loose data. I think if I > close the application the transaction would get rollbacked. I can't think of any way to issue the commit, unless the application is running in an unusual environment which lets you break in and issue ad hoc commands on its connection. There is a way you could fish out the effects of the transaction, although it might be a fair bit of work. Each tuple inserted or updated has the transaction ID set as its xmin in the new tuple, and every tuple deleted or updated has the transaction ID set as its xmax. The old and new are guaranteed not to go away until the transaction completes, one way or the other. With some clever programming you could capture the net effect of the transaction, and duplicate that effect after the transaction is rolled back. Be aware that while the transaction is stuck "idle in transaction" the cleanup of old tuples can't proceed normally; so if you're continuing to modify any database in the cluster, it could be accumulating bloat until you resolve this. -Kevin
On 2011.10.03 20:57, Kevin Grittner wrote: > > > I can't think of any way to issue the commit, unless the application > is running in an unusual environment which lets you break in and > issue ad hoc commands on its connection. There is a way you could > fish out the effects of the transaction, although it might be a fair > bit of work. Each tuple inserted or updated has the transaction ID > set as its xmin in the new tuple, and every tuple deleted or updated > has the transaction ID set as its xmax. The old and new are > guaranteed not to go away until the transaction completes, one way > or the other. With some clever programming you could capture the > net effect of the transaction, and duplicate that effect after the > transaction is rolled back. > > Be aware that while the transaction is stuck "idle in transaction" > the cleanup of old tuples can't proceed normally; so if you're > continuing to modify any database in the cluster, it could be > accumulating bloat until you resolve this. > > -Kevin > Thank You, Kevin, Julien, Scott for the help. Scott - your idea is worth remembering. The problem is I can not see the tuples until they are committed, or can I ? And if I understand you correctly I can not rely on xmin and xmax values after the commit. Anyway Thank You for the Idea. I solved the problem by using sql injection methods (I was lucky the application was buggy enough). -- Julius Tuskenis Programavimo skyriaus vadovas UAB nSoft mob. +37068233050
On Oct 3, 2011, at 10:50 AM, Julius Tuskenis wrote: > I've tried google'ing but without results - this might mean, that there is no way, but I thought asking is an option.. There's no way to do it, because it makes no sense. If the client app is buggy, then how do you know for sure that the clientapp has completed the transaction, rather than making a partial update? -- Scott Ribe scott_ribe@elevated-dev.com http://www.elevated-dev.com/ (303) 722-0567 voice