Thread: french po updates and ui patch

french po updates and ui patch

From
Guillaume LELARGE
Date:
Hi all,

You'll find attached an update for the french .po file. Please apply it in the
REL-1_4_0_PATCHES branch. Thanks.

The second one aims to better use checkbox. You used a label and a checkbox
instead of a checkbox with its own label. I modify this. I think it makes a
better UI. You can click on the text instead of the box. Hope you'll find
this interesting and that you'll apply it.


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Re: french po updates and ui patch

From
"Dave Page"
Date:

> -----Original Message-----
> From: pgadmin-hackers-owner@postgresql.org
> [mailto:pgadmin-hackers-owner@postgresql.org] On Behalf Of
> Guillaume LELARGE
> Sent: 21 November 2005 17:37
> To: pgadmin-hackers
> Subject: [pgadmin-hackers] french po updates and ui patch
>
> Hi all,

Hi,

> You'll find attached an update for the french .po file.

Please send the complete updated .po and .mo file. Although there
shouldn't be any issues with French, as a general rule I try to avoid
patching the po files as they can be easily broken in ways that I might
not spot.

> Please apply it in the
> REL-1_4_0_PATCHES branch. Thanks.

We keep all translations in sync, so I'll add the updated po/mo file to
trunk as well.

> The second one aims to better use checkbox. You used a label
> and a checkbox
> instead of a checkbox with its own label. I modify this. I
> think it makes a
> better UI. You can click on the text instead of the box. Hope
> you'll find
> this interesting and that you'll apply it.

Iirc, there was a reason why they're separate (I just can't think what
it was) - can you remember Andreas?

Regards, Dave

Re: french po updates and ui patch

From
Andreas Pflug
Date:
Dave Page wrote:
>
>
>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: pgadmin-hackers-owner@postgresql.org
>>[mailto:pgadmin-hackers-owner@postgresql.org] On Behalf Of
>>Guillaume LELARGE
>>Sent: 21 November 2005 17:37
>>To: pgadmin-hackers
>>Subject: [pgadmin-hackers] french po updates and ui patch
>>
>>Hi all,
>
>
> Hi,
>
>
>>You'll find attached an update for the french .po file.
>
>
> Please send the complete updated .po and .mo file. Although there
> shouldn't be any issues with French, as a general rule I try to avoid
> patching the po files as they can be easily broken in ways that I might
> not spot.
>
>
>>Please apply it in the
>>REL-1_4_0_PATCHES branch. Thanks.
>
>
> We keep all translations in sync, so I'll add the updated po/mo file to
> trunk as well.
>
>
>>The second one aims to better use checkbox. You used a label
>>and a checkbox
>>instead of a checkbox with its own label. I modify this. I
>>think it makes a
>>better UI. You can click on the text instead of the box. Hope
>>you'll find
>>this interesting and that you'll apply it.
>
>
> Iirc, there was a reason why they're separate (I just can't think what
> it was) - can you remember Andreas?

Yup; we mostly have the text on the left side. Only win32 has such a
flag, other systems know text on the right side only. There might be
areas where we really can change the checkboxes, I'll have a look at
Guillaumes patch some day.

Regards,
Andreas

Re: french po updates and ui patch

From
Guillaume Lelarge
Date:
2005/11/23, Dave Page <dpage@vale-housing.co.uk>:
> > You'll find attached an update for the french .po file.
>
> Please send the complete updated .po and .mo file. Although there
> shouldn't be any issues with French, as a general rule I try to avoid
> patching the po files as they can be easily broken in ways that I might
> not spot.
>

I'll send it to you when I get back at home. Unfortunately, I don't
have it at work.

> > Please apply it in the
> > REL-1_4_0_PATCHES branch. Thanks.
>
> We keep all translations in sync, so I'll add the updated po/mo file to
> trunk as well.
>

OK, great news.

> > The second one aims to better use checkbox. You used a label
> > and a checkbox
> > instead of a checkbox with its own label. I modify this. I
> > think it makes a
> > better UI. You can click on the text instead of the box. Hope
> > you'll find
> > this interesting and that you'll apply it.
>
> Iirc, there was a reason why they're separate (I just can't think what
> it was) - can you remember Andreas?
>

I thought there was one but I didn't find it. I think label+checkbox
is a bit difficult for the user, but also for the translator. I have
much less room in the left part of the window. Or could we add more
space on this part ?


--
Guillaume.

Re: french po updates and ui patch

From
"Dave Page"
Date:

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Guillaume Lelarge [mailto:guillaume.lelarge@gmail.com]
> Sent: 23 November 2005 23:36
> To: Dave Page
> Cc: pgadmin-hackers; Andreas Pflug
> Subject: Re: [pgadmin-hackers] french po updates and ui patch
>
> 2005/11/23, Guillaume Lelarge <guillaume.lelarge@gmail.com>:
> > 2005/11/23, Dave Page <dpage@vale-housing.co.uk>:
> > > > You'll find attached an update for the french .po file.
> > >
> > > Please send the complete updated .po and .mo file. Although there
> > > shouldn't be any issues with French, as a general rule I
> try to avoid
> > > patching the po files as they can be easily broken in
> ways that I might
> > > not spot.
> > >
> >
> > I'll send it to you when I get back at home. Unfortunately, I don't
> > have it at work.
> >
>
> You'll find them attached in bzip2 format.

Thanks - applied to both branches.

Regards, Dave

Re: french po updates and ui patch

From
Andreas Pflug
Date:
Andreas Pflug wrote:
>>
>>
>>> The second one aims to better use checkbox. You used a label and a
>>> checkbox instead of a checkbox with its own label. I modify this. I
>>> think it makes a better UI. You can click on the text instead of the
>>> box. Hope you'll find this interesting and that you'll apply it.
>>
>>
>>
>> Iirc, there was a reason why they're separate (I just can't think what
>> it was) - can you remember Andreas?
>
>
> Yup; we mostly have the text on the left side. Only win32 has such a
> flag, other systems know text on the right side only. There might be
> areas where we really can change the checkboxes, I'll have a look at
> Guillaumes patch some day.

I rewieved the issue now. In wx2.6, the text-on-left-side-only
restriction is gone, but this won't help us too much: What we need is
left-aligned text, and right-aligned checkbox to position all
descriptive text and all controls aligned; a checkbox won't allow this.
Guillaumes patch will simply add all descriptive text for checkboxes to
the right of the box itself, this looks really ugly for most dialogs (we
have this on the options dialog, but this is different because we don't
need to give a consistent look&feel as in the case of pgsql objects
dialogs, so we could order the controls to look nicely).

Regards,
Andreas