Thread: Licence disclaimer
Dear all, I added a disclaimer in the licence: http://developer.pgadmin.org/pgadmin3/cnt/licence.txt Can we agree on these modifications? Cheers, Jean-Michel ************** An updated licence agreement can be downloaded from http://pgadmin.postgresql.org/pgadmin3/cnt/licence.txt Last update: Friday 6 February 2004 BY INSTALLING OR DISTRIBUTING PGADMIN SOFTWARE, YOU AGREE WITH THE FOLLOWING DISCLAIMER: BECAUSE PGADMIN IS FREE SOFTWARE MOSTLY DEVELOPED AS A HOBBY DURING SPARE TIME, IT WAS NOT FULLY TESTED AND THUS MAY CONTAIN BUGS OR OTHER DAMAGING PROGRAMS. USE AT YOUR OWN RISK. TO THE EXTENT OF APPLICABLE LAW, PGADMIN TEAM MEMBERS, PROGRAMMERS AND WEB SITES DISTRIBUTING PGADMIN CANNOT BE HELD LIABLE UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES FOR DAMAGE TO HARDWARE OR SOFTWARE, LOST DATA, OR OTHER DIRECT OR INDIRECT DAMAGE RESULTING FROM THE USE OF THIS SOFTWARE - IN COUNTRIES WHERE THIS CLAUSE CANNOT APPLY, PGADMIN MEMBERS, PROGRAMMERS AND WEB SITES DISTRIBUTING PGADMIN CANNOT BE HELD LIABLE FOR MORE THAN ONE EURO FOR THE TOTAL DOMAGE. IF YOU DO NOT AGREE TO THESE CONDITIONS, YOU ARE NOT PERMITTED TO USE OR FURTHER DISTRIBUTE THIS SOFTWARE. Then the Artistic text... **************
Jean-Michel POURE wrote: >Dear all, > >I added a disclaimer in the licence: >http://developer.pgadmin.org/pgadmin3/cnt/licence.txt > >Can we agree on these modifications? > >Cheers, >Jean-Michel >************** >An updated licence agreement can be downloaded from >http://pgadmin.postgresql.org/pgadmin3/cnt/licence.txt > >Last update: Friday 6 February 2004 > >BY INSTALLING OR DISTRIBUTING PGADMIN SOFTWARE, YOU AGREE WITH THE FOLLOWING >DISCLAIMER: > >BECAUSE PGADMIN IS FREE SOFTWARE MOSTLY DEVELOPED AS A HOBBY DURING SPARE >TIME, IT WAS NOT FULLY TESTED AND THUS MAY CONTAIN BUGS OR OTHER DAMAGING >PROGRAMS. USE AT YOUR OWN RISK. TO THE EXTENT OF APPLICABLE LAW, PGADMIN TEAM >MEMBERS, PROGRAMMERS AND WEB SITES DISTRIBUTING PGADMIN CANNOT BE HELD LIABLE >UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES FOR DAMAGE TO HARDWARE OR SOFTWARE, LOST DATA, OR >OTHER DIRECT OR INDIRECT DAMAGE RESULTING FROM THE USE OF THIS SOFTWARE - IN >COUNTRIES WHERE THIS CLAUSE CANNOT APPLY, PGADMIN MEMBERS, PROGRAMMERS AND >WEB SITES DISTRIBUTING PGADMIN CANNOT BE HELD LIABLE FOR MORE THAN ONE EURO >FOR THE TOTAL DOMAGE. > >IF YOU DO NOT AGREE TO THESE CONDITIONS, YOU ARE NOT PERMITTED TO USE OR >FURTHER DISTRIBUTE THIS SOFTWARE. > > Domage? Is this about the Kölner Dom? :-) Well it's not really a hobby, more a *mission*. IMHO (in my hopeful opinion) we're adhering to criteria that can be put on the very best software design. I wouldn't like the word hobby for this. I'd say BECAUSE PGADMIN IS FREE SOFTWARE ORIGINALLY DEVELOPED FOR PERSONAL NEEDS AND CONTRIBUTED TO THE PUBLIC AS GENEROUS DONATION,WE DO NOT GUARANTEE ANYTHING ON THIS FINE PIECE OF SOFTWARE IN TERMS OF USABILITY, FUNCTIONALITY OR FREEDOM OF DEFECTS.USE AT YOUR OWN RISK. We should rise a fund to insure this Euro thing, don't you think? :-))) Regards, Andreas
> -----Original Message----- > From: Andreas Pflug [mailto:pgadmin@pse-consulting.de] > Sent: 06 February 2004 01:07 > To: jm@poure.com > Cc: pgadmin-hackers@postgresql.org > Subject: Re: [pgadmin-hackers] Licence disclaimer > > Jean-Michel POURE wrote: > > >BY INSTALLING OR DISTRIBUTING PGADMIN SOFTWARE, YOU AGREE WITH THE > >FOLLOWING > >DISCLAIMER: > > > >BECAUSE PGADMIN IS FREE SOFTWARE MOSTLY DEVELOPED AS A HOBBY DURING > >SPARE TIME, IT WAS NOT FULLY TESTED AND THUS MAY CONTAIN > BUGS OR OTHER > >DAMAGING PROGRAMS. USE AT YOUR OWN RISK. TO THE EXTENT OF APPLICABLE > >LAW, PGADMIN TEAM MEMBERS, PROGRAMMERS AND WEB SITES DISTRIBUTING > >PGADMIN CANNOT BE HELD LIABLE UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES FOR DAMAGE TO > >HARDWARE OR SOFTWARE, LOST DATA, OR OTHER DIRECT OR INDIRECT DAMAGE > >RESULTING FROM THE USE OF THIS SOFTWARE - IN COUNTRIES WHERE THIS > >CLAUSE CANNOT APPLY, PGADMIN MEMBERS, PROGRAMMERS AND WEB SITES > >DISTRIBUTING PGADMIN CANNOT BE HELD LIABLE FOR MORE THAN ONE > EURO FOR THE TOTAL DOMAGE. > > > >IF YOU DO NOT AGREE TO THESE CONDITIONS, YOU ARE NOT > PERMITTED TO USE > >OR FURTHER DISTRIBUTE THIS SOFTWARE. > > > > BECAUSE PGADMIN IS FREE SOFTWARE ORIGINALLY DEVELOPED FOR > PERSONAL NEEDS AND CONTRIBUTED TO THE PUBLIC AS GENEROUS > DONATION, WE DO NOT GUARANTEE ANYTHING ON THIS FINE PIECE OF > SOFTWARE IN TERMS OF USABILITY, FUNCTIONALITY OR FREEDOM OF > DEFECTS. USE AT YOUR OWN RISK. Hmm, not sure about either. Let me think about it. > We should rise a fund to insure this Euro thing, don't you > think? :-))) ?? Regards, Dave.
Dear Andreas, BECAUSE PGADMIN IS FREE SOFTWARE ORIGINALLY DEVELOPED FOR PERSONAL NEEDS AND CONTRIBUTED TO THE PUBLIC AS GENEROUS DONATION, WE DO NOT GUARANTEE ANYTHING, [TO THE EXTENT OF THE LOCAL LAW], ON THIS FINE PIECE OF SOFTWARE IN TERMS OF USABILITY,FUNCTIONALITY OR FREEDOM OF DEFECTS. USE AT YOUR OWN RISK. Thanks. This sounds much better. Let us just add "TO THE EXTENT OF THE LAW", otherwise the sentence may be void in France (per previous court judgement). > We should rise a fund to insure this Euro thing, don't you think? :-) Absence of liability is not allowed in France and probably in several countries. As a result, when starting Debian you can read 'Provided without liability to the extend of the local law' (from memory). But, defining a maximum amount if allowed. Defining a "One Euro" amount is quite usual as it is a much better garantee than rejecting liability: IN COUNTRIES WHERE LIABILITY CANNOT BE RESTRICTED, PGADMIN SOFTWARE DEVELOPERS, CONTRIBUTORS AND ANY PARTY PROMOTING OR DISTRIBUTING PGADMIN SHALL NOT BE HELD LIABLE FOR MORE THAN ONE EURO FOR ANY DAMAGE. Cheers, Jean-Michel