Thread: Qt3
Dear all, I am stuck down by http://www.globecom.net/tora, an Oracle administration interface. The software is open-source but not free for commercial use. What do you think of qt3, which is available freely on both Linux and Windows? Cheers, Jean-Michel POURE
It has a really good reputation for cross-platform portability. KDE (the Unix desktop environment) is based upon QT2/QT3 too. www.qt3.org :) + Justin Jean-Michel POURE wrote: > > Dear all, > > I am stuck down by http://www.globecom.net/tora, an Oracle administration > interface. The software is open-source but not free for commercial use. > > What do you think of qt3, which is available freely on both Linux and Windows? > > Cheers, > Jean-Michel POURE > > ---------------------------(end of broadcast)--------------------------- > TIP 2: you can get off all lists at once with the unregister command > (send "unregister YourEmailAddressHere" to majordomo@postgresql.org) -- "My grandfather once told me that there are two kinds of people: those who work and those who take the credit. He told me to try to be in the first group; there was less competition there." - Indira Gandhi
> -----Original Message----- > From: Jean-Michel POURE [mailto:jm.poure@freesurf.fr] > Sent: 22 November 2001 20:39 > To: pgadmin-hackers@postgresql.org > Subject: [pgadmin-hackers] Qt3 > > > Dear all, > > I am stuck down by http://www.globecom.net/tora, an Oracle > administration > interface. The software is open-source but not free for > commercial use. Personally I think it looks very cluttered. There's way too much on the screen at once imho. > What do you think of qt3, which is available freely on both > Linux and Windows? Well, I agree with Justin's comments (see his message) but it's not really relevant to pgAdmin is it? I know cross platform is something we discussed before I really started on pgAdmin II, but at the time none of us were expert enough in C/C++/Java/Whatever which is why we decided to stick with VB if you remember. I'm not sure that ~30,000 lines of (RC1 quality) code into the project is really a good time to think about changing :-) Otoh, were you aware that pgAdmin II will run under Wine on Linux (and presumably anything else that Wine runs on)? Regards, Dave.
> Well, I agree with Justin's comments (see his message) but it's not really > relevant to pgAdmin is it? I know cross platform is something we discussed > before I really started on pgAdmin II, but at the time none of us were > expert enough in C/C++/Java/Whatever which is why we decided to stick with > VB if you remember. I'm not sure that ~30,000 lines of (RC1 quality) code > into the project is really a good time to think about changing :-) Hello Dave, I don't want to change pgAdmin II platform. This was just for information. IMHO, KDE3 is the future as it is really cross-platform and free. Maybe for pgAdmin III? What are the guidelines for installing pgAdmin II under Wine? Is there a need to set up a Linux RPM? Cheers, Jean-Michel POURE
> -----Original Message----- > From: Jean-Michel POURE [mailto:jm.poure@freesurf.fr] > Sent: 23 November 2001 10:17 > To: pgadmin-hackers@postgresql.org > Subject: Re: [pgadmin-hackers] Qt3 > > > > Well, I agree with Justin's comments (see his message) but it's not > > really relevant to pgAdmin is it? I know cross platform is > something > > we discussed before I really started on pgAdmin II, but at the time > > none of us were expert enough in C/C++/Java/Whatever which > is why we > > decided to stick with VB if you remember. I'm not sure that ~30,000 > > lines of (RC1 quality) code into the project is really a > good time to > > think about changing :-) > > Hello Dave, > > I don't want to change pgAdmin II platform. This was just for > information. IMHO, KDE3 is the future as it is really > cross-platform and free. Maybe for pgAdmin III? Yup, sounds good. I was intending to look at C# when we get to that stage. It sounds like a nice idea with the power of C/C++ & the ease of use of VB ($DEITY I should be in marketing!). Anyway, there is already an effort to produce an open source .NET framework & C# compiler underway (I forget who's doing it, someone well known anyway - I read about it on www.theregister.co.uk) > What are the guidelines for installing pgAdmin II under Wine? > Is there a need to set up a Linux RPM? There are no guidelines at the moments. Mark has done the work and was going to write a howto but he's been pretty busy recently. At the moment, I think you still need to non-redistributable M$ files, so you'd need a Windows licence, but seeing as you can't really buy a PC without these days, most people probably have one even if they don't use it. As for RPMs, personally I try not to use them (I prefer tar -zxvf ...;./configure;make) etc. I can see that they're good though, it's just a shame a lot of Linux distros (including Slackware which I use) and most(?) other *nixes don't support them. /D
Hello there! Actually I am a new user of this list. Let me say some words about pgAdm.... Once I decided to develop applications in VB. After several years of experience I came to conclusion that applications made in VB is not fast enough (including incompatibility with pure Linux/Unix platform in XWindows). So lately I switched to Delphi. Using the latest Borland invention - "Delphi for Linux" or Kylix may be the solution for Linux development. And also just one thing I experienced using Delphi VCL(Visual Component Library) - using standard components and modules results exe file grouth up to 1....2 Mb (in case of complex project). But using Win API and/or alternative libraries shrinks resulting exe file consideraby (about 10-20 times). Roman Zhuravljov (roman@va.ttu.ee). Original quote: > Well, I agree with Justin's comments (see his message) but it's not really > relevant to pgAdmin is it? I know cross platform is something we discussed > before I really started on pgAdmin II, but at the time none of us were > expert enough in C/C++/Java/Whatever which is why we decided to stick with > VB if you remember. I'm not sure that ~30,000 lines of (RC1 quality) code > into the project is really a good time to think about changing :-)
> -----Original Message----- > From: Roman Zhuravljov [mailto:roman@va.ttu.ee] > Sent: 23 November 2001 11:44 > To: pgadmin-hackers@postgresql.org > Subject: Re: [pgadmin-hackers] Qt3 > > > Hello there! > > Actually I am a new user of this list. Let me say some words > about pgAdm.... > > Once I decided to develop applications in VB. After several > years of experience I came to conclusion that applications > made in VB is not fast enough (including incompatibility with > pure Linux/Unix platform in XWindows). So lately I switched > to Delphi. Using the latest Borland invention - "Delphi for > Linux" or Kylix may be the solution for Linux development. > And also just one thing I experienced using Delphi VCL(Visual > Component > Library) - using standard components and modules results exe > file grouth up to 1....2 Mb (in case of complex project). But > using Win API and/or alternative libraries shrinks resulting > exe file consideraby (about 10-20 times). Hi Roman, I did consider Delphi before starting work on pgAdmin II. The problem with it is that I can't easily get the Borland tools - they are costly and not easy for me to justify to my FD. The code I write here has no real size/speed problems as we have fairly quick PCs across the network. We also get the MS tools for very reasonable prices as we are a not-for-profit organisation. Privately, justifying the cost to my wife would be, ummm, impossible! That basically means that anything I'm involved in either needs to be written using MS or open source/freeware tools... Regards, Dave.
Hi Dave, Just for reference purposes, two of the best Open Source C/C++ Compilers I've seen are : LCC - Windows only. GUI based, highly optimised code, very good reputation : http://www.cs.virginia.edu/~lcc-win32/ Dev-C++ - GUI tool based upon GCC and MingW. Also has a good reputation and is used for cross-platform compiling. Not as fully developed and polished as LCC, but a lot of people are using this : http://www.bloodshed.net/devcpp.html Hope this is of assistance. :) Regards and best wishes, Justin Clift ----- Original Message ----- From: Dave Page <dpage@vale-housing.co.uk> To: <pgadmin-hackers@postgresql.org> Sent: Friday, November 23, 2001 11:19 PM Subject: Re: [pgadmin-hackers] Qt3 > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Roman Zhuravljov [mailto:roman@va.ttu.ee] > > Sent: 23 November 2001 11:44 > > To: pgadmin-hackers@postgresql.org > > Subject: Re: [pgadmin-hackers] Qt3 > > > > > > Hello there! > > > > Actually I am a new user of this list. Let me say some words > > about pgAdm.... > > > > Once I decided to develop applications in VB. After several > > years of experience I came to conclusion that applications > > made in VB is not fast enough (including incompatibility with > > pure Linux/Unix platform in XWindows). So lately I switched > > to Delphi. Using the latest Borland invention - "Delphi for > > Linux" or Kylix may be the solution for Linux development. > > And also just one thing I experienced using Delphi VCL(Visual > > Component > > Library) - using standard components and modules results exe > > file grouth up to 1....2 Mb (in case of complex project). But > > using Win API and/or alternative libraries shrinks resulting > > exe file consideraby (about 10-20 times). > > Hi Roman, > > I did consider Delphi before starting work on pgAdmin II. The problem with > it is that I can't easily get the Borland tools - they are costly and not > easy for me to justify to my FD. The code I write here has no real > size/speed problems as we have fairly quick PCs across the network. We also > get the MS tools for very reasonable prices as we are a not-for-profit > organisation. > > Privately, justifying the cost to my wife would be, ummm, impossible! > > That basically means that anything I'm involved in either needs to be > written using MS or open source/freeware tools... > > Regards, Dave. > > ---------------------------(end of broadcast)--------------------------- > TIP 6: Have you searched our list archives? > > http://archives.postgresql.org >
> -----Original Message----- > From: Justin Clift [mailto:justin@postgresql.org] > Sent: 25 November 2001 23:40 > To: Dave Page; pgadmin-hackers@postgresql.org > Subject: Re: [pgadmin-hackers] Qt3 > > > Hi Dave, > > Just for reference purposes, two of the best Open Source > C/C++ Compilers I've seen are : > > LCC - Windows only. GUI based, highly optimised code, very > good reputation > : > > http://www.cs.virginia.edu/~lcc-win32/ > > Dev-C++ - GUI tool based upon GCC and MingW. Also has a good > reputation > Dev-C++ and > is used for cross-platform compiling. Not as fully developed > and polished as LCC, but a lot of people are using this : > > http://www.bloodshed.net/devcpp.html > > Hope this is of assistance. :) > > Regards and best wishes, > Thanks Justin, I'll take a look when I get 5 minutes. Regards, Dave.