Re: Possibility to disable `ALTER SYSTEM` - Mailing list pgsql-hackers

From Heikki Linnakangas
Subject Re: Possibility to disable `ALTER SYSTEM`
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Msg-id fd5b68bf-38f7-4c3f-8b81-8fac0e7512a2@iki.fi
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In response to Re: Possibility to disable `ALTER SYSTEM`  (Maciek Sakrejda <m.sakrejda@gmail.com>)
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Re: Possibility to disable `ALTER SYSTEM`
Re: Possibility to disable `ALTER SYSTEM`
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I want to remind everyone of this from Gabriele's first message that 
started this thread:

> At the moment, a possible workaround is that `ALTER SYSTEM` can be blocked
> by making the postgresql.auto.conf read only, but the returned message is
> misleading and that’s certainly bad user experience (which is very
> important in a cloud native environment):
> 
> 
> ```
> postgres=# ALTER SYSTEM SET wal_level TO minimal;
> ERROR:  could not open file "postgresql.auto.conf": Permission denied
> ```

I think making the config file read-only is a fine solution. If you 
don't want postgres to mess with the config files, forbid it with the 
permission system.

Problems with pg_rewind, pg_basebackup were mentioned with that 
approach. I think if you want the config files to be managed outside 
PostgreSQL, by kubernetes, patroni or whatever, it would be good for 
them to be read-only to the postgres user anyway, even if we had a 
mechanism to disable ALTER SYSTEM. So it would be good to fix the 
problems with those tools anyway.

The error message is not great, I agree with that. Can we improve it? 
Maybe just add a HINT like this:

postgres=# ALTER SYSTEM SET wal_level TO minimal;
ERROR:  could not open file "postgresql.auto.conf" for writing: 
Permission denied
HINT:  Configuration might be managed outside PostgreSQL


Perhaps we could make that even better with a GUC though. I propose a 
GUC called 'configuration_managed_externally = true / false". If you set 
it to true, we prevent ALTER SYSTEM and make the error message more 
definitive:

postgres=# ALTER SYSTEM SET wal_level TO minimal;
ERROR:  configuration is managed externally

As a bonus, if that GUC is set, we could even check at server startup 
that all the configuration files are not writable by the postgres user, 
and print a warning or refuse to start up if they are.

(Another way to read this proposal is to rename the GUC that's been 
discussed in this thread to 'configuration_managed_externally'. That 
makes it look less like a security feature, and describes the intended 
use case.)

-- 
Heikki Linnakangas
Neon (https://neon.tech)




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